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Post by Legend Lover on Nov 14, 2022 17:09:28 GMT -5
Finally we're able to get full fibre to the premises where I live.
I can't wait to have faster, more reliable speeds. I don't need the full package, but I'm tempted to get it just cos it's available.
I need to figure out a way to get an ethernet cable to my computer upstairs.
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Post by terrapinflyer on Nov 14, 2022 20:20:30 GMT -5
I thought you were talking about your diet at first. I'm a little punchy lately.
It's kind of funny when read that way, though. That's probably me.
Nevermind. Carry on.
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Post by roadsdiverged on Nov 14, 2022 20:47:30 GMT -5
The only thing we can get down this clay road is dial up. They offer satellite, but the pine trees say no.
Maybe we're talking g about the same thing 🤣
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Post by Ronv69 on Nov 14, 2022 21:52:28 GMT -5
Finally we're able to get full fibre to the premises where I live. I can't wait to have faster, more reliable speeds. I don't need the full package, but I'm tempted to get it just cos it's available. I need to figure out a way to get an ethernet cable to my computer upstairs. We use the AC wireline adapters to run full ethernet all over the the house. Rated at 500mbps we get a real 200. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Nov 14, 2022 21:53:18 GMT -5
I thought you were talking about your diet at first. I'm a little punchy lately. It's kind of funny when read that way, though. That's probably me. Nevermind. Carry on. I thought the same thing. It's hard getting old. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Nov 14, 2022 21:54:15 GMT -5
The only thing we can get down this clay road is dial up. They offer satellite, but the pine trees say no. Maybe we're talking g about the same thing 🤣 We have DSL! |
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Post by swampgrizzly on Nov 14, 2022 21:55:04 GMT -5
The only thing we can get down this clay road is dial up. They offer satellite, but the pine trees say no. Maybe we're talking g about the same thing 🤣 Slow internet connection speed is a bummer, but I bet there are some other joys that life on a clay road provide especially for your children! |
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Post by Legend Lover on Nov 15, 2022 1:47:12 GMT -5
Finally we're able to get full fibre to the premises where I live. I can't wait to have faster, more reliable speeds. I don't need the full package, but I'm tempted to get it just cos it's available. I need to figure out a way to get an ethernet cable to my computer upstairs. We use the AC wireline adapters to run full ethernet all over the the house. Rated at 500mbps we get a real 200. I was thinking about powerline adapters, but not sure what speeds I'll get with it. I'm thikning of getting a WiFi 6 router, although it would be nice if BT provided one. Their latest router is WiFi 5. As for my diet... More fibre speeds up other things too. 😳 |
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Post by roadsdiverged on Nov 15, 2022 5:59:28 GMT -5
Slow internet connection speed is a bummer, but I bet there are some other joys that life on a clay road provide especially for your children! I'm not really complaining. I do everything I need to on my phone. It's pretty peaceful out here. The kids get to run around and do just about anything they want to. The same goes for the dogs. On this road, there's 1 way in, and 2 ways out. Our biggest problem is snakes but we keep the yard clean, and try to keep the hiding spots as minimal as possible. There hasn't been a rattler in the yard in years, but Moccasins show up once in a while. They get option 2 of "the way out." |
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Post by sperrytops on Nov 15, 2022 11:00:51 GMT -5
Why not go wireless?
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Post by Legend Lover on Nov 15, 2022 11:50:34 GMT -5
There's a limit to the speeds you get with wireless. There's Wifi 6, which I might invest in, but my ISP doesn't provide that. I'm now thinking of getting the router into my office and then send it around the house from there. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Nov 15, 2022 11:54:37 GMT -5
We have several wireless services around us and they are all worse than the DSL. They make big speed claims but they don't deliver. |
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Post by Plainsman on Nov 15, 2022 13:45:58 GMT -5
Claiming and not delivering seems to be a national sport.
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Post by terrapinflyer on Nov 15, 2022 16:28:50 GMT -5
I wholeheartedly concur.
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Post by Zach on Nov 15, 2022 17:47:02 GMT -5
We have several wireless services around us and they are all worse than the DSL. They make big speed claims but they don't deliver. You get a fiber connection to the house and you use wireless inside the house.
I work for a fiber optic ISP as a systems engineer. You say you have DSL, but DSL limitation on an ADSL line is around 8 Mbit. DSL is distance-critical old tech whereby you get speeds based on your distance from the DSLAM and DSL box install. On VDSL2 in certain regions in Asia, the max throughput download speed is about 100 Mbit tops. In America, your max on the newest VDSL2 equip is basically 24 megabit flatout, nearest the hut.
But he could run on a thousand megabit wireless inside his house from BT running fiber to the prem.
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Post by Ronv69 on Nov 15, 2022 17:55:13 GMT -5
We have several wireless services around us and they are all worse than the DSL. They make big speed claims but they don't deliver. You get a fiber connection to the house and you use wireless inside the house.
I work for a fiber optic ISP as a systems engineer.
Wrong kemosabe. It's a cellular/4G wireless modem. They claim 5G but that's a joke. We've tried T-Mobile, Verizon, and AT&T. Remember that I'm a network engineer too. And although we do use wifi in the house, we have better connections with the AC/wireline adapters. They just upgraded our DSL to 25mbps, but because we are too far from the source we are getting 18, which is enough for what we do. |
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Post by Zach on Nov 15, 2022 17:57:47 GMT -5
You get a fiber connection to the house and you use wireless inside the house.
I work for a fiber optic ISP as a systems engineer.
Wrong kemosabe. It's a cellular/4G wireless modem. They claim 5G but that's a joke. We've tried T-Mobile, Verizon, and AT&T. Remember that I'm a network engineer too. And although we do use wifi in the house, we have better connections with the AC/wireline adapters. They just upgraded our DSL to 25mbps, but because we are too far from the source we are getting 18, which is enough for what we do. I'm talking about his getting BT fiber to the house. I don't know what your DSL wireless or otherwise capability is. He can easily get gigabit fiber into his house. When I say "you get a fiber connection" I'm talking about in general, when you get fiber ran to the house. The wireless just comes from the router you choose.
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Post by Ronv69 on Nov 15, 2022 18:07:04 GMT -5
Wrong kemosabe. It's a cellular/4G wireless modem. They claim 5G but that's a joke. We've tried T-Mobile, Verizon, and AT&T. Remember that I'm a network engineer too. And although we do use wifi in the house, we have better connections with the AC/wireline adapters. They just upgraded our DSL to 25mbps, but because we are too far from the source we are getting 18, which is enough for what we do. I'm talking about his getting BT fiber to the house. I don't know what your DSL wireless or otherwise capability is. He can easily get gigabit fiber into his house. When I say "you get a fiber connection" I'm talking about in general, when you get fiber ran to the house. The wireless just comes from the router you choose.
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Post by mgtarheel on Nov 15, 2022 18:51:13 GMT -5
In my neck of the woods, it's Spectrum or nothing.
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Post by Plainsman on Nov 15, 2022 18:53:54 GMT -5
Acronyms! Acronyms! My head hurts!
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Post by Legend Lover on Nov 16, 2022 2:04:24 GMT -5
We have several wireless services around us and they are all worse than the DSL. They make big speed claims but they don't deliver. You get a fiber connection to the house and you use wireless inside the house.
I work for a fiber optic ISP as a systems engineer. You say you have DSL, but DSL limitation on an ADSL line is around 8 Mbit. DSL is distance-critical old tech whereby you get speeds based on your distance from the DSLAM and DSL box install. On VDSL2 in certain regions in Asia, the max throughput download speed is about 100 Mbit tops. In America, your max on the newest VDSL2 equip is basically 24 megabit flatout, nearest the hut.
 But he could run on a thousand megabit wireless inside his house from BT running fiber to the prem.
that's right. Max they can give is 900Mbps (way more than needed), but you out get that with an ethernet connection, because WiFi 5 isn't giving that speed. That's why I might get the router straight into my study rather than the front door. I'll broadcast the WiFi from there. |
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Post by trailboss on Nov 16, 2022 9:49:50 GMT -5
We all need to go back to...in the good old days my Kmart Blue light dialup and:  I could go make breakfast while a picture loaded, much more leisure time. |
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Post by sperrytops on Nov 16, 2022 13:36:36 GMT -5
Your real limitation is in your service provider. In home, Ethernet is about 10gps vs 7gps for wireless. However, regardless of which you have, and whether you have fiber to the house, internet service providers limit upload and download speeds artificially. Often charging more for faster download speeds. While wireless is a bit slower in th house, I avoid running any cable and can carry a laptop anywhere in the house. I prefer the flexibility.
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Post by oldcajun123 on Nov 16, 2022 14:26:00 GMT -5
 Was in a pickle last night,I cleaned and dusted (at wife’s insintance) around 65 inch Samsung in bedroom. Came to bed, no picture, fuzz, seems I knocked something off. Finally figured it out,pressed source and got back to HDMI DTV MODE,Whew! Went to stream,no internet, maybe it’s the router? No I say I’ve got internet on my IPHONE. FINALLY AFTER hunt and peck, found out WI-FI password had dissapered, Viola, Streaming City. I’ll tell you guys, this old Cajun isn’t equipped for this💩!
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Post by Ronv69 on Nov 16, 2022 14:27:52 GMT -5
Your real limitation is in your service provider. In home, Ethernet is about 10gps vs 7gps for wireless. However, regardless of which you have, and whether you have fiber to the house, internet service providers limit upload and download speeds artificially. Often charging more for faster download speeds. While wireless is a bit slower in th house, I avoid running any cable and can carry a laptop anywhere in the house. I prefer the flexibility. We have desktop computers and printers that are on ethernet. The Wi-Fi is for 1 TV and the cell phones and such. Main TV is wired. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Nov 16, 2022 14:30:21 GMT -5
Was in a pickle last night,I cleaned and dusted (at wife’s insintance) around 65 inch Samsung in bedroom. Came to bed, no picture, fuzz, seems I knocked something off. Finally figured it out,pressed source and got back to HDMI DTV MODE,Whew! Went to stream,no internet, maybe it’s the router? No I say I’ve got internet on my IPHONE. FINALLY AFTER hunt and peck, found out WI-FI password had dissapered, Viola, Streaming City. I’ll tell you guys, this old Cajun isn’t equipped for this💩! Wi-Fi comes with issues that you don't have with ethernet. That's why I use the AC line adapters. House before last I wired with Cat 5. |
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Post by Legend Lover on Nov 16, 2022 17:22:22 GMT -5
Your real limitation is in your service provider. In home, Ethernet is about 10gps vs 7gps for wireless. However, regardless of which you have, and whether you have fiber to the house, internet service providers limit upload and download speeds artificially. Often charging more for faster download speeds. While wireless is a bit slower in th house, I avoid running any cable and can carry a laptop anywhere in the house. I prefer the flexibility. That's an eye-opener. I have seen online, people having issues with wifi speeds no getting above around 300 or 400 Mbps. But when wired, it's at the stated 900 Mbps. Any idea why the ISP would allow the wired connection to be at the stated speed and not the wifi connection? |
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Post by sperrytops on Nov 17, 2022 14:13:48 GMT -5
I'm not an expert, so really can't explain that. But, for example, I have Comcast Cable from the house to the ISP (also Comcast Cable), so it's fibre from the house. My internal network goes through one transfer point, the router. Going onto he internet, you go through router, modem, and several transfer points to get to any server. On the internet you are also competing for traffic with millions of other people. If I do a speed test from my computer, I get 700 mbps on my Lan, and 137 Mbps for download speeds. Upload speeds are always slower, but I get 14 Mbps there. You can contractually increase upload and download speeds with your ISP by paying higher rates, but the speeds I get are pretty common for a higher level of service. If you re getting 900 mbps download speeds I am impressed. But it's more likely that's your internal LAN speed in your home, not your ISP download speed. The ISP has no control over your internal LAN speed. They can only control the speed from the ISP to the Modem.
I pulled the following off the internet for some general info:Gigabit internet speeds are often considered the gold standard for internet users, as they can support an unlimited number of devices and users. You can shop gigabit speeds with internet service providers (ISPs) that offer fiber-optic and co-axial cable connections. 2 Gbps, or 2,000 Mbps, is currently the highest speed offered by any major provider. Streaming in HD uses 25 mbps.
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Post by sperrytops on Nov 17, 2022 14:27:32 GMT -5
I should clarify, Comcast is now Xfinity. lol
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Post by sperrytops on Nov 17, 2022 14:51:43 GMT -5
Your real limitation is in your service provider. In home, Ethernet is about 10gps vs 7gps for wireless. However, regardless of which you have, and whether you have fiber to the house, internet service providers limit upload and download speeds artificially. Often charging more for faster download speeds. While wireless is a bit slower in th house, I avoid running any cable and can carry a laptop anywhere in the house. I prefer the flexibility. That's an eye-opener. I have seen online, people having issues with wifi speeds no getting above around 300 or 400 Mbps. But when wired, it's at the stated 900 Mbps. Any idea why the ISP would allow the wired connection to be at the stated speed and not the wifi connection? I guess I didn't really address the question asked. The ISP does not control WiFi speeds on your LAN. If someone is only getting 300 instead of 700 (max), it's possible they are too far away from their router. They might have an old, slow router, or the router is too far away form the PC (not centrally placed in the house), or you just need a booster for a router that's too far away. I'd be interested in how they are measuring their speeds. You generally need a special app to measure LAN speeds, and those speeds are measured from device to device, or in reading or writing to files. I think I misquoted some numbers above, though. Ethernet speeds (cable) in LAN is about 10 GPPS, while wireless is 1 GPPS max (closer to 7-800 MBPS). Sorry |
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Was in a pickle last night,I cleaned and dusted (at wife’s insintance) around 65 inch Samsung in bedroom. Came to bed, no picture, fuzz, seems I knocked something off. Finally figured it out,pressed source and got back to HDMI DTV MODE,Whew! Went to stream,no internet, maybe it’s the router? No I say I’ve got internet on my IPHONE. FINALLY AFTER hunt and peck, found out WI-FI password had dissapered, Viola, Streaming City. I’ll tell you guys, this old Cajun isn’t equipped for this💩!