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Post by Silver on May 9, 2024 19:22:37 GMT -5
While Kaywoodie has been a one or two person operation (Bill outsourced blasting and Nathan had helped some), they are made in batches using the volume production techniques and equipment developed by Kaywoodie when they were a much larger operation. So, I would say yes. Well, if that makes Kaywoodie a factory pipe, then Radice is a factory pipe. And that just doesn't fit. I don't think either had enough production quantity to call a true factory. If a workshop has fraising machines that can reproduce the same shape stummel a few dozen times fast, then maybe it has a mass-production feel to it. But, if the overall volume is only a few hundred pipes a year, I wouldn't consider it a factory.
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Post by johnlawitzke on May 9, 2024 19:23:41 GMT -5
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Post by johnlawitzke on May 9, 2024 19:24:16 GMT -5
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Post by urbino on May 9, 2024 19:25:25 GMT -5
Well, if that makes Kaywoodie a factory pipe, then Radice is a factory pipe. And that just doesn't fit. I don't think either had enough production quantity to call a true factory. If a workshop has fraising machines that can reproduce the same shape stummel a few dozen times fast, then maybe it has a mass-production feel to it. But, if the overall volume is only a few hundred pipes a year, I wouldn't consider it a factory. God help us, we've got another prince-or-bent-apple situation on our hands.
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Post by Ronv69 on May 9, 2024 19:44:37 GMT -5
Well, if that makes Kaywoodie a factory pipe, then Radice is a factory pipe. And that just doesn't fit. I don't think either had enough production quantity to call a true factory. If a workshop has fraising machines that can reproduce the same shape stummel a few dozen times fast, then maybe it has a mass-production feel to it. But, if the overall volume is only a few hundred pipes a year, I wouldn't consider it a factory. Last time I checked, Radice makes 1500-1800 pipes a year. Gigi and his 2 sons in there shop in Cucciago Italy.
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Post by Ronv69 on May 9, 2024 19:45:49 GMT -5
Man! They should give you a special pipe or an award or something. 😂 I believe that they have manipulated that video, because what they showed doesn't account for the 100k pipes they make in a year. They are down from the 400k they made in their best years. I have some of those pipes from that period and they are outstanding, even compared to the current production.
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Post by Ronv69 on May 9, 2024 20:02:40 GMT -5
Radice How can you not want a pipe by these guys?
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Post by urbino on May 9, 2024 20:10:55 GMT -5
If a workshop has fraising machines that can reproduce the same shape stummel a few dozen times fast, then maybe it has a mass-production feel to it. But, if the overall volume is only a few hundred pipes a year, I wouldn't consider it a factory. Last time I checked, Radice makes 1500-1800 pipes a year. Gigi and his 2 sons in there shop in Cucciago Italy. The father died a few years ago, didn't he?
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Post by Ronv69 on May 9, 2024 22:21:13 GMT -5
Last time I checked, Radice makes 1500-1800 pipes a year. Gigi and his 2 sons in there shop in Cucciago Italy. The father died a few years ago, didn't he? Not that I heard. He's up there in years though so it's possible. He would be 85 and lived a very healthy lifestyle. Sad if he did. There's another Gigi Radice who was a famous furniture designer who has passed.
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Post by johnlawitzke on May 9, 2024 22:58:02 GMT -5
Man! They should give you a special pipe or an award or something. 😂 Yeah, they really should; shouldn’t they? 🤔😉
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Post by trailboss on May 9, 2024 23:37:24 GMT -5
I understand that the original post was made in regards to current production, but so many of the British pipe makers of years gone by fit the bill in excellent smoking pipes, even many of the seconds I have are great smokers.
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Post by jonmc75 on May 10, 2024 3:05:55 GMT -5
Radice How can you not want a pipe by these guys? I really dig Mike, he's a great guy, thanks for posting Ron.
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Post by jonmc75 on May 10, 2024 3:06:51 GMT -5
Very interesting videos, thanks for posting John.
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Post by jonmc75 on May 10, 2024 3:08:05 GMT -5
I understand that the original post was made in regards to current production, but so many of the British pipe makers of years gone by fit the bill in excellent smoking pipes, even many of the seconds I have are great smokers. There's a death of manufacturers compared to yesteryear, for sure.
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Post by urbino on May 10, 2024 3:48:21 GMT -5
Since we're doing these: ![](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtZl7f0lJ3E&list=WL&index=15&pp=gAQBiAQB)
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Post by NJDan on May 10, 2024 7:17:34 GMT -5
I understand that the original post was made in regards to current production, but so many of the British pipe makers of years gone by fit the bill in excellent smoking pipes, even many of the seconds I have are great smokers. I agree. I especially keep a look out for Sasieni pipes and seconds. They are all great smokers!
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Post by Mrs. Zarnicky on May 10, 2024 9:46:50 GMT -5
Zarnicky also liking Savinelli pipes but liking Vauen pipes even better.
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Post by urbino on May 10, 2024 15:56:12 GMT -5
Zarnicky also liking Savinelli pipes but liking Vauen pipes even better. We should've mentioned them. They don't get nearly as much talk as Savinelli, but they do seem to be very reliable.
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Post by roadsdiverged on May 10, 2024 16:55:33 GMT -5
Top 3 for me are Savinelli, Stanwell (especially older ones), & Dr. Grabow. I have absolutely no complaints about those.
Worst for me are Peterson. I haven't smoked any older ones, but the newer ones (2015+) have been crap. I have 3 and have had to modify all 3 to make them smoke right.
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Post by CrustyCat on May 19, 2024 3:53:08 GMT -5
I know they aren't the best, but I really like my old Dr. Grabows.
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Post by urbino on May 19, 2024 3:56:07 GMT -5
I know they aren't the best, but I really like my old Dr. Grabows. I've got one Grabow. A Grand Duke. I've got no real complaints with it. It's less pretty than the pipes I like better, but the smoking qualities are there. No shame in a Grabow.
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Post by CrustyCat on May 19, 2024 4:00:19 GMT -5
I have some Starfires and other nice ones. Really good smokers and I don't mind the stingers either.
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