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Post by bonanzadriver on Nov 17, 2017 2:22:53 GMT -5
Ok, not exactly, it was the prototype. But According to Elon, it'll be available in 2020.
The specs on this beast are amazing...
0 - 60 in 1.9 sec 0 - 100 in 4.2 sec 1/4 mile in 8.9 sec 250+mph top speed 620 mile range
All of this and this is gonna be the base model that is a 2+2.
Every single one of these are world records for a production car.
This was revealed after the new Semi truck reveal.
This guy is kickin a$$. Pretty neat time's we're livin in.
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Post by rblood on Nov 17, 2017 7:17:18 GMT -5
Wow, those are some impressive numbers. It's amazing how rapidly electric car technology is advancing.
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Post by Ronv69 on Nov 17, 2017 13:21:06 GMT -5
This is race car fast. My 69 modified Hemi Roadrunner did 0-60 in 3.1 with the 1:4.89 gears and wrinkle wall slicks. And it was scary. But, he only makes money with the high end Teslas. His company is losing money and he is investing his shareholders money in rockets and electric systems for African villages. Looking like a house of cards to me. People who have purchased a Tesla are finding that it takes months to get them repaired. Not that I wouldn't love to have one for a spare.
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Post by Nevadablue on Nov 17, 2017 14:07:45 GMT -5
Sounds like a really practical vehicle. The speed limit here is 275 though, so it won't be competitive.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2017 14:41:54 GMT -5
I had a Gremlin and a Yugo. Both made it 0-10... eventually
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Post by oldcajun123 on Nov 17, 2017 18:46:56 GMT -5
My concern about Telsa is it has been funded by the Government, would not be here as it would go away as the last Administration did with the Solar companies, the taxpayers for the most part cannot afford these vechilies, so why the big help. Musk is a very smart man, but to me he's flighty, jumping from one project to another. As one other poster said repairs take time, but that doesn't worry me as I cannot afford one, yet my taxes go to this corporation , yes I pay taxes, minuimn distribution on my IRA and I can tell you it's a good sum every year.
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Post by Nevadablue on Nov 17, 2017 19:39:15 GMT -5
David, a friend had a Skoda, back in the '60s! It didn't make 10 most of the time.
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Post by duffer on Nov 18, 2017 13:06:13 GMT -5
Suddenly my Corvette is a slug.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Nov 18, 2017 18:13:08 GMT -5
They are incredible with the direct power and torque. Call me old fashioned, but I'd rather be in a rumbly old Alpha with the top down- switching gears, smelling exhaust, and leaning with the turns.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Nov 18, 2017 18:14:13 GMT -5
Have you seen that ridiculous new Dodge? It has something close to 900hp stock. Haha. I'd be afraid to drive it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 19:42:46 GMT -5
I am pretty happy with 159hp, but can appreciate the insanity of that kind of power. Better have a strong neck.
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Post by simnettpratt on Nov 18, 2017 20:25:34 GMT -5
You guys seen the Devel Sixteen out of Dubai? 12.3 litre V16 with four turbos. Just a prototype so far, but the last dyno had it at 5,007 horses. So far, claims of 1.7 to sixty with a 348 mph top end. We'll see.
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Post by duffer on Nov 19, 2017 19:57:28 GMT -5
You guys seen the Devel Sixteen out of Dubai? 12.3 litre V16 with four turbos. Just a prototype so far, but the last dyno had it at 5,007 horses. So far, claims of 1.7 to sixty with a 348 mph top end. We'll see.
Any idea on sticker?
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Post by simnettpratt on Nov 19, 2017 20:09:08 GMT -5
They're saying it will start at $1.8 million, and won't be street legal. They are planning on two 'lesser' models for the street: one with the another quad turbo 16 putting out a paltry 3,000 hp, and a twin turbo V8 with 2,000 hp starting at $1.6 mil. No plans on limiting the production run.
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Post by papipeguy on Nov 19, 2017 20:16:03 GMT -5
Not interested in souped up golf carts. I enjoy the thoaty rumble from the exhaust of the tow truck while my MG sits on the back on the way to the shop.
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Post by simnettpratt on Nov 19, 2017 20:20:17 GMT -5
Same here.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 14:29:40 GMT -5
My next one will be electric after my 2007 Prius dies. The biggest problem for me, however, is that I only have a 200 amp residential service, which is quite common, and don't have sufficient capacity for an additional 220/240 volt docking station to recharge an electric vehicle. Guessing my Prius is good for another ten years and they'll have that one figured out by then.
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Post by zambini on Nov 20, 2017 15:40:13 GMT -5
My next one will be electric after my 2007 Prius dies. The biggest problem for me, however, is that I only have a 200 amp residential service, which is quite common, and don't have sufficient capacity for an additional 220/240 volt docking station to recharge an electric vehicle. Guessing my Prius is good for another ten years and they'll have that one figured out by then. This is actually one of the bigger issues in urban planning that needs to be addressed over the next few years. Car companies aren't standardizing batteries, existing recharge options are much slower than existing gas pumps, home construction is not considering in-home recharge docks as a basic necessity, cities are going to have a hard time justifying (i.e charging loads for permits) existing permit regimes for refuelling stations and most haven't even begun to rethink their zoning laws for charging stations or mixed stations (remember when you couldn't use your phone at the pump because of a potential spark). This is why France banning gas fueled cars after 2030 will be so interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 16:52:31 GMT -5
My next one will be electric after my 2007 Prius dies. The biggest problem for me, however, is that I only have a 200 amp residential service, which is quite common, and don't have sufficient capacity for an additional 220/240 volt docking station to recharge an electric vehicle. Guessing my Prius is good for another ten years and they'll have that one figured out by then. This is actually one of the bigger issues in urban planning that needs to be addressed over the next few years. Car companies aren't standardizing batteries, existing recharge options are much slower than existing gas pumps, home construction is not considering in-home recharge docks as a basic necessity, cities are going to have a hard time justifying (i.e charging loads for permits) existing permit regimes for refuelling stations and most haven't even begun to rethink their zoning laws for charging stations or mixed stations (remember when you couldn't use your phone at the pump because of a potential spark). This is why France banning gas fueled cars after 2030 will be so interesting. On new residential single family construction, a 300 amp service line is available for the additional jack here. I also know some of the knew electric cars spec out on 110 volts but the recharge time is significant. Obvious obstacles which have to be overcome but cudos to France for making the attempt. It can be done.
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Post by Ronv69 on Nov 21, 2017 12:52:11 GMT -5
Electric cars are unnatural. You can't even feel the ground shake when you rev the engine.
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Post by Zach on Nov 21, 2017 20:11:17 GMT -5
Tesla plans on releasing their Model 3 next year for $35,000 which I would consider affordable for a household making a combined $55k+ a year. That Tesla prototype race car should be awesome.
Tesla has received mainly government incentives, and NOT tax payer money. That's going pretty far. General Motors, where my grandfather retired from after 45 years, received a larger cash bailout than the subsidies that Tesla has received for advancing humankind. There is nothing else in the world getting subsidies worth more than what Tesla is doing. Just as Tesla and Bezos are doing more in space than the US government and NASA could do in such short time. He's busting his butt to advance society. We're seeing a massive global shift in the wealth system currently. The entire global wealth supply is shifting hands into the visionaries, nerds, hackers, programmers hands while the entire financial market is making the switch to blockchain Bitcoin technology to take all the money from all the bankers and crooks and corporations, the tech visionaries will destroy the oil and other energy markets. Scary for people scared of real change.
incentives, including grants, tax breaks, factory construction, discounted loans and environmental credits that Tesla can sell. It also includes tax credits and rebates to buyers of solar panels and electric cars.
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Post by Zach on Nov 21, 2017 20:18:00 GMT -5
You guys seen the Devel Sixteen out of Dubai? 12.3 litre V16 with four turbos. Just a prototype so far, but the last dyno had it at 5,007 horses. So far, claims of 1.7 to sixty with a 348 mph top end. We'll see.
That beats the new Bugatti Chiron which just got done setting new records. ThatDevel car will still be cheaper though than a Bugatti Veyron SS or Bugatti Chiron. I'd choose the Bugatti Italian luxury car if I had to choose, but that car looks pretty slick.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2017 21:25:18 GMT -5
You could use it to pick up your new 450 Million artwork . . . . .if it had a trunk.
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Post by simnettpratt on Nov 22, 2017 11:01:32 GMT -5
Sports cars are becoming all angles, not curves. I can't stand angles, cars should be curvy, like women. This is what a car looks like:
Curves, dammnit.
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Post by oldcajun123 on Nov 22, 2017 11:15:02 GMT -5
Musk and his companies' investors enjoy most of the financial upside of the government support, while taxpayers shoulder the cost. The payoff for the public would come in the form of major pollution reductions, but only if solar panels and electric cars break through as viable mass-market products. For now, both remain niche products for mostly well-heeled customers. Musk declined repeated requests for an interview through Tesla spokespeople, and officials at all three companies declined to comment. The subsidies have generally been disclosed in public records and company filings. But the full scope of the public assistance hasn't been tallied because it has been granted over time from different levels of government. This was gleaned.from an article in a prominent newspaper. The Old Cajun
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Post by bonanzadriver on Nov 22, 2017 12:18:16 GMT -5
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Post by simnettpratt on Nov 22, 2017 13:38:08 GMT -5
Son of a bitch! I did not realize I was posting a pic of an actual electric car. It's wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. I want the burble and the spitting and the rumbling, and the smell of gasoline. Damn it. I posted a pic of a damned electric E-Type. Appropriate for the thread I guess, but personally, I can't stand electric cars; I don't care if they're fast. You lose a lot of the emotive passion for cars with me. Damn. I posted a pic of an electric E-Type. I am going to hang my head in shame now.
Dino, you want an electric V-Tail?
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Post by trailboss on Nov 22, 2017 14:02:25 GMT -5
Son of a bitch! I did not realize I was posting a pic of an actual electric car. It's wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. I want the burble and the spitting and the rumbling, and the smell of gasoline. Damn it. I posted a pic of a damned electric E-Type. Appropriate for the thread I guess, but personally, I can't stand electric cars; I don't care if they're fast. You lose a lot of the emotive passion for cars with me. Damn. I posted a pic of an electric E-Type. I am going to hang my head in shame now.
Dino, you want an electric V-Tail?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2017 15:18:53 GMT -5
Musk and his companies' investors enjoy most of the financial upside of the government support, while taxpayers shoulder the cost. The payoff for the public would come in the form of major pollution reductions, but only if solar panels and electric cars break through as viable mass-market products. For now, both remain niche products for mostly well-heeled customers. Musk declined repeated requests for an interview through Tesla spokespeople, and officials at all three companies declined to comment. The subsidies have generally been disclosed in public records and company filings. But the full scope of the public assistance hasn't been tallied because it has been granted over time from different levels of government. This was gleaned.from an article in a prominent newspaper. The Old Cajun Renewables have received peanuts compared to government subsidies for fossil fuels. Just saying...
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