The war against tobacco users marches on....

Always depresses me when I read the news coming out of Texas. There is no "Texas" anymore.

I am not “feigning” anything, and anger isn’t where I operate.

In a world where bureaucrats and politicians play to the majority (who do not enjoy a fine cigar or pipe) at the expense of the individual that does, it bodes badly for us. I know a lot of people figure screw it, I have my cellar and enough to smoke for the rest of my life, let them do whatever they do, and quietly accept it, but I think that view is selfish.

I am not saying that is the attitude of anyone here, but sadly that mindset is one of some pipe smokers.

To appease an alligator by throwing him meat, only allows him to get stronger, and it will inevitably lead to $40 pouches of Captain Black if not pushed back against.

Same here in Oregon as of January 1st. Ridiculous for the reasons you pointed out

I don't know what the legal age is here but I live near a high school and I see kids hanging out smoking every day. 

I also know that the state of Texas, and other states, has seen an influx of people and businesses who have moved out of California. 

So are they idiots because they fled the evil totalitarian socialist regime, or simply because they're from California, or because they decided to live in Texas?     Generalizing about entire groups of people almost never makes sense.

These laws.. Everything from over-taxing to the point of making tobacco unobtainable for some to insisting tobacco be packaged with those passive-aggressive warnings and pictures.

Maybe they should put pictures of morbidly obese people on potato chip bags or pictures of venereal diseases or starving orphans on condom wrappers, since we are obviously all morons that cannot be allowed our free will.

Two more interesting stories about laws in California:

1. A state legislator is introducing a law outlawing plastic straws in the state. A server could get up to 6 months in jail for giving a customer a straw. conservativetribune.com/california-law-waiters-jail-straws/

2. A judge is about to rule on a lawsuit that would require warning labels placed on coffee. www.wsj.com/articles/if-you-drink-coffee-in-california-be-warned-it-may-cause-cancer-1516795200

I have lived in California for 25 years, and I have lived in Texas 5 years...they are indeed worlds apart. 

I could write a huge essay on so much ridiculousness that took part in Ca., eventually I had to leave....the cops coddled criminals at my expense and put my family's life in danger. What took place in San Francisco when the five time deported killer, was let off scot free by the jury didn't surprise me...that culture has been around for a long time. When Terence Hallinan was the DA of San Francisco, a murdered victim had a one in four chance of ever seeing a successful prosecution of the killer.

It was a great place when I moved there in 1980, by the time I left in 2005, it really turned into a shithole.

Since then, I ventured there once more and almost had my brains stomped in the gutter....

www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=937590
Needless to say, but since my mother in law and grandmother in law died off, I refuse to ever go to California for a vacation, or to visit her sister.

The community I live in now, really has no signs of gang activity anywhere.


www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/news/2017/12/06/this-valley-city-is-one-of-the-safest-in-america.html

OK, folks; I've read enough of this thread to get the gist of what people think of some states. Let's remember that this is a pipe forum and nt Face the Nation. Therefore, I'm locking this thread so we can move on to more collegial matters.