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Post by PhantomWolf on Apr 5, 2018 23:29:16 GMT -5
Hate to go off your topic, but a few years back (2014 maybe) a guy broke into my home because his girlfriend's car was outside my place. I sleep with an S&W 9mm at arm's reach(veteran thing maybe) anyway, after drawing on him I led him to my den and heard his story. I then helped the poor fellah find his cheating girlfriend. Haha I love telling this story to my anti-gun friends.
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Post by zambini on Apr 6, 2018 0:46:25 GMT -5
Hate to go off your topic, but a few years back (2014 maybe) a guy broke into my home because his girlfriend's car was outside my place. I sleep with an S&W 9mm at arm's reach(veteran thing maybe) anyway, after drawing on him I led him to my den and heard his story. I then helped the poor fellah find his cheating girlfriend. Haha I love telling this story to my anti-gun friends. Now you have to tell us the whole story. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2018 13:34:27 GMT -5
The guy walked free without charges, as decided by the police. Apparently the burglar and a few members of his family have been preying on old age pensioners for years in various scams and robberies. I feel sorry for his kids, having such an asshole for a father and then losing him in such a stupid, horrible way.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2018 14:02:56 GMT -5
what's sad is that he cannot go back to his home as it has been vandalized and the police recommended he doesn't try and go back in case someone tries to take revenge, so again he is a victim of the injustice of it all!
A GoFund me page has been set up with 7000 GBP already donated for a new home!
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Post by trailboss on Apr 6, 2018 17:47:17 GMT -5
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Post by PhantomWolf on Apr 6, 2018 18:32:28 GMT -5
Hate to go off your topic, but a few years back (2014 maybe) a guy broke into my home because his girlfriend's car was outside my place. I sleep with an S&W 9mm at arm's reach(veteran thing maybe) anyway, after drawing on him I led him to my den and heard his story. I then helped the poor fellah find his cheating girlfriend. Haha I love telling this story to my anti-gun friends. Now you have to tell us the whole story. Happened just as I said. No way I am typing the entire dialogue. haha Turns out his old lady was up the block and parked in my lot as a diversion. I asked him a few general questions about her age etc and was able to make an educated guess at what neighbor would be the likely candidate. I urged him to make certain he knocked this time and reminded him of how badly his morning nearly ended. haha A friend and I then watched the scene unfold through my washroom window. I'm glad no one was hurt 'physically'. I really felt for the guy. He looked like things didn't usually go his way. |
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Post by Legend Lover on Apr 6, 2018 18:38:51 GMT -5
The guy walked free without charges, as decided by the police. Apparently the burglar and a few members of his family have been preying on old age pensioners for years in various scams and robberies. I feel sorry for his kids, having such an asshole for a father and then losing him in such a stupid, horrible way. Just read that. The thief took his chances and ended up much worse off. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2018 17:45:13 GMT -5
Yes, he was absolved of the charges.
The dead criminals' family is demanding an apology, if you can believe that!
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Post by jitterbugdude on Apr 10, 2018 19:19:24 GMT -5
Someone should set up a GoFundMe page for him. I'd certainly contribute.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2018 20:28:00 GMT -5
Someone should set up a GoFundMe page for him. I'd certainly contribute. They are raising funds for him and his wife to pay expenses while they can't return to their home. Their eventual return is hampered by the fact that they are receiving death threats from the perps low life friends. The possibility exists that they may have to sell their home and move elsewhere for their own safety. |
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Post by Legend Lover on Apr 11, 2018 2:09:00 GMT -5
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Post by toshtego on Apr 11, 2018 12:40:48 GMT -5
Originally from England, I have experienced this myself, I didn't kill anyone but I did break the burglars knee cap with a cricket bat, I was arrested and released on bail, my attorney told me to plead not guilty and plead self defense, it did not go to trial as the judge threw out the case. If you cannot protect you family or your home, then you might as well leave the doors open for anyone to take advantage! There is uproar in England the way he has been treated! When I lived in north London ad neighbor's flat was burglarized. Many of us gathered in the forecourt listening to the sounds of breaking furniture and such. Eventually, a PC showed up. A pimply faced youth armed with a small flashlight. He did not enter the premises until the perps fled out the back with their swag. It seems property crimes are viewed somewhat differently. There is currently an epidemic of fatal stabbings in London. The murder rate has exceeded NYC. The Chief Constable for London has decided knives are bad. It is no wonder they arrested the old man. He best have his Solicitor contact Horace Rumpole. |
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Post by toshtego on Apr 11, 2018 13:22:33 GMT -5
Originally from England, I have experienced this myself, I didn't kill anyone but I did break the burglars knee cap with a cricket bat, I was arrested and released on bail, my attorney told me to plead not guilty and plead self defense, it did not go to trial as the judge threw out the case. If you cannot protect you family or your home, then you might as well leave the doors open for anyone to take advantage! There is uproar in England the way he has been treated! When I lived in north London, a neighbor's flat was burglarized. Many of us gathered in the forecourt listening to the sounds of breaking furniture and such. Eventually, a PC showed up. The Constable was a pimply faced youth armed with a small flashlight. He did not enter the premises until the perps fled out the back with their swag. He then confirmed there had probably occurred a burglary on these premises. Good man! It seems property crimes are viewed somewhat differently in London. There is currently an epidemic of fatal stabbings in London. The murder rate there has exceeded NYC's murder rate. The Chief Constable for London has decided knives are bad. It is no wonder they arrested the old man. He best have his Solicitor contact Horace Rumpole, Barrister. |
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Post by toshtego on Apr 11, 2018 13:23:25 GMT -5
Originally from England, I have experienced this myself, I didn't kill anyone but I did break the burglars knee cap with a cricket bat, I was arrested and released on bail, my attorney told me to plead not guilty and plead self defense, it did not go to trial as the judge threw out the case. If you cannot protect you family or your home, then you might as well leave the doors open for anyone to take advantage! There is uproar in England the way he has been treated! |
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Post by toshtego on Apr 11, 2018 13:24:24 GMT -5
Originally from England, I have experienced this myself, I didn't kill anyone but I did break the burglars knee cap with a cricket bat, I was arrested and released on bail, my attorney told me to plead not guilty and plead self defense, it did not go to trial as the judge threw out the case. If you cannot protect you family or your home, then you might as well leave the doors open for anyone to take advantage! There is uproar in England the way he has been treated! |
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Post by toshtego on Apr 11, 2018 13:25:29 GMT -5
Please do not ask me what is happening here. I have no idea other than an attempt to edit my post. Sorry for the outcome.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2018 17:40:17 GMT -5
It's a shame, people are leaving tributes to the dead burglar and the owner cannot live at his own home, justice is fucked up!
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Post by toshtego on Apr 11, 2018 18:47:40 GMT -5
The crime situation in London is very sad.
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Post by Legend Lover on Apr 12, 2018 3:16:28 GMT -5
The crime situation in London is very sad. ...and it's getting worse. |
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Post by william on Apr 12, 2018 7:55:28 GMT -5
Yes, he was absolved of the charges. The dead criminals' family is demanding an apology, if you can believe that! I do find it amazing that the families of these criminals feel they have been wronged. I would just say that an advantage to living in a state that has a "Castle Doctrine" or "Stand Your Ground" law (aside from the obvious acknowledgement of one's right to self defense) is that a person cannot be sued in civil court for engaging in an act of self defense if there are no charges brought in criminal court. So no chance of financial ruin for ridding the world of vermin like this.... |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2018 14:46:48 GMT -5
Just read about a guy who traveled to Hither Green from another part of London just to rip down the flowers left by mourners and hurl them to the ground. I find that pretty low. Regardless of the details of what happened, the jerk's family has a right to mourn him. If I had a father, brother, or son who became an amoral criminal and was killed during a robbery, I would still mourn him and be grieved at the loss. Possibly even more than if he'd had a good life. This was a tragedy all around.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2018 16:11:24 GMT -5
I disagree, if the burglar was a decent individual, then he would not be stealing good people's things, he deserved everything he got and whilst I do agree his family has a right to mourn him, the PENSIONER" still is not allowed back at his own home, tell me that's right!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2018 16:51:44 GMT -5
I disagree, if the burglar was a decent individual, then he would not be stealing good people's things, he deserved everything he got and whilst I do agree his family has a right to mourn him, the PENSIONER" still is not allowed back at his own home, tell me that's right! ...which is something I never said or meant to imply, and of course it's not right for the pensioner either. I just wanted to point out that most people have at least one asshole in the family, a bad egg who causes no end of trouble and grief for everyone else. But we don't just say "good riddance" when he's killed, and we even still love the son of a bitch. So I feel sorry for his family just I feel sorry for the pensioner. Imagine grieving for your criminal dad who was just killed in a robbery, then being verbally assaulted for it and your memorial to him being trashed in the street. Two wrongs don't make a right. |
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Post by oldcajun123 on Apr 12, 2018 17:09:39 GMT -5
 Chico I see your point, but if my Dad robbed a Bank I would not put a wreath on the Banks door. See my point, and never on the premises that my family had burgled, I would probably be ashamed but would try and help the Old Man. Different Strokes for different folks.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2018 21:12:31 GMT -5
Chico I see your point, but if my Dad robbed a Bank I would not put a wreath on the Banks door. See my point, and never on the premises that my family had burgled, I would probably be ashamed but would try and help the Old Man. Different Strokes for different folks. Yeah, I agree - the tradition is to lay wreaths where a person died, though in this case it was probably meant to be provocative. But, I would find it hard to help the old man knowing he stabbed my dad to death, whatever the reason. I guess you never know until you're in that situation, and it would depend on how the old man acted to me. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2018 16:52:03 GMT -5
So news today is the pensioner has been advised by the police to sell the house and move to ANOTHER city as they will not continue to protect him or his wife!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2018 16:53:27 GMT -5
I disagree, if the burglar was a decent individual, then he would not be stealing good people's things, he deserved everything he got and whilst I do agree his family has a right to mourn him, the PENSIONER" still is not allowed back at his own home, tell me that's right! ...which is something I never said or meant to imply, and of course it's not right for the pensioner either. I just wanted to point out that most people have at least one asshole in the family, a bad egg who causes no end of trouble and grief for everyone else. But we don't just say "good riddance" when he's killed, and we even still love the son of a bitch. So I feel sorry for his family just I feel sorry for the pensioner. Imagine grieving for your criminal dad who was just killed in a robbery, then being verbally assaulted for it and your memorial to him being trashed in the street. Two wrongs don't make a right. Some of us have more than one asshole in our families! We can choose our friends and not our families! Question becomes, if he was a law abiding member of society, would he still be alive? |
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Chico I see your point, but if my Dad robbed a Bank I would not put a wreath on the Banks door. See my point, and never on the premises that my family had burgled, I would probably be ashamed but would try and help the Old Man. Different Strokes for different folks.