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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2018 23:34:09 GMT -5
I dunno that I agree with much of this. The front for Jay and the Americans can still sing like the Sixties. Personal Fave, Del Shannon, could still kill the high notes up until tragically killing himself. If anyone wants a pleasant surprise just listen to the totality of his works. It's darned awesome and goes in depth way beyond Hats Off to Larry and Runaway. Ron Dante is still running around singing Archies and Cuff Links songs. I'd pay for that, like I paid for Peter, Paul, and Mary in the Eighties. They never lost an ounce of talent until Mary passed away. I've seen Johnny Cash, and met him, in the Sixties, but would more have loved to see him sing the song Hurt and a few of his later ones. I'd pay to see Judy Pulver in her eighties even though the performance I saw online was weak due to her frailness. That would be the one gimme where I would pay as a tribute. Not that I have an opinion, mind you
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Post by Dramatwist on Apr 21, 2018 1:08:17 GMT -5
...I've pondered this question myself (I'm a rabid Beatles fan) and I believe it would be disappointing...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2018 1:46:12 GMT -5
I suspect you're right, but in many of the reunion concerts members of the Turtles sing with Ron Dante and the Cowsills, etc. I know these younguns don't have the history or bonifides, but I don't see the harm in trying. Several have talent. Could be the next Traveling Wilburys or the Highwaymen. Just saying they could make something out of it. Realistically, I don't believe they give a darn, which is more the pity. I don't know if I am a rabid fan, but when I listen to All My Loving I have to hear the USA Stereo first, with the voices in one ear the music banging in the other. Then I listen to the Mono, and finally the later mixes. With And I Love Her instrumental (which was more G. Martin, I guess) I listen to the Mono and then the stereo and have an argument in my head which one I like more. Rabid? Me? Nahhh
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Post by Dramatwist on Apr 21, 2018 11:11:15 GMT -5
I suspect you're right, but in many of the reunion concerts members of the Turtles sing with Ron Dante and the Cowsills, etc. I know these younguns don't have the history or bonifides, but I don't see the harm in trying. Several have talent. Could be the next Traveling Wilburys or the Highwaymen. Just saying they could make something out of it. Realistically, I don't believe they give a darn, which is more the pity. I don't know if I am a rabid fan, but when I listen to All My Loving I have to hear the USA Stereo first, with the voices in one ear the music banging in the other. Then I listen to the Mono, and finally the later mixes. With And I Love Her instrumental (which was more G. Martin, I guess) I listen to the Mono and then the stereo and have an argument in my head which one I like more. Rabid? Me? Nahhh I remember seeing them for the first time on Ed Sullivan... completely changed my world. I wasn't old enough to see them together when they were touring, but I managed to see them separately while John and George were still alive.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2018 14:48:52 GMT -5
The fact that such bands can charge so much money is really just a testament to how much better they were than anything happening nowadays. cough nostalgia based purchase by people with accumulated wealth cough True, though even contemporary bands charge an arm and a leg. For that you usually get synchronized dancing, auto-tune, and lip-syncing, or music that's so postmodern you can sit there and say, "oh there's the Kinks one, there's the Gang of Four one, there's the Brian Wilson one, there's the Joy Division one" etc. etc. So called "alternative" or indie bands don't just wear their influences on their sleeves theses days, they basically write imitations that sound like fake cover songs. They have all the right influences and they know how to use them, but with all the emotion and originality of the android or hologram on Star Trek. But don't mind me, I've been saying the same thing since the 90s! (I'm not quite old enough yet for one of those "get off my lawn" emojis).
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Post by Dramatwist on Apr 21, 2018 14:57:45 GMT -5
cough nostalgia based purchase by people with accumulated wealth cough True, though even contemporary bands charge an arm and a leg. For that you usually get synchronized dancing, auto-tune, and lip-syncing, or music that's so postmodern you can sit there and say, "oh there's the Kinks one, there's the Gang of Four one, there's the Brian Wilson one, there's the Joy Division one" etc. etc. So called "alternative" or indie bands don't just wear their influences on their sleeves theses days, they basically write imitations that sound like fake cover songs. They have all the right influences and they know how to use them, but with all the emotion and originality of the android or hologram on Star Trek. But don't mind me, I've been saying the same thing since the 90s! (I'm not quite old enough yet for one of those "get off my lawn" emojis). "...get the hell off my lawn!"... I'M old enough...
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Post by zambini on Apr 21, 2018 15:14:13 GMT -5
cough nostalgia based purchase by people with accumulated wealth cough True, though even contemporary bands charge an arm and a leg. For that you usually get synchronized dancing, auto-tune, and lip-syncing, or music that's so postmodern you can sit there and say, "oh there's the Kinks one, there's the Gang of Four one, there's the Brian Wilson one, there's the Joy Division one" etc. etc. So called "alternative" or indie bands don't just wear their influences on their sleeves theses days, they basically write imitations that sound like fake cover songs. They have all the right influences and they know how to use them, but with all the emotion and originality of the android or hologram on Star Trek. But don't mind me, I've been saying the same thing since the 90s! (I'm not quite old enough yet for one of those "get off my lawn" emojis). You've got to get with it. Rock is dead and has been dead for a while. Outside of hip-hop (think Kanye West or Kendrick Lamar) no one in the mainstream is pushing Western music forwards.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2018 15:41:18 GMT -5
True, though even contemporary bands charge an arm and a leg. For that you usually get synchronized dancing, auto-tune, and lip-syncing, or music that's so postmodern you can sit there and say, "oh there's the Kinks one, there's the Gang of Four one, there's the Brian Wilson one, there's the Joy Division one" etc. etc. So called "alternative" or indie bands don't just wear their influences on their sleeves theses days, they basically write imitations that sound like fake cover songs. They have all the right influences and they know how to use them, but with all the emotion and originality of the android or hologram on Star Trek. But don't mind me, I've been saying the same thing since the 90s! (I'm not quite old enough yet for one of those "get off my lawn" emojis). You've got to get with it. Rock is dead and has been dead for a while. Outside of hip-hop (think Kanye West or Kendrick Lamar) no one in the mainstream is pushing Western music forwards. Yeah, I agree. But I'd rather be out of it than with it. I appreciate hip-hop more I than actually like it. I'm happier exploring jazz, classical, and international stuff, but still listen to a good deal of 60s, 70s, and 80s stuff, and a smattering of bands since then.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2018 19:01:44 GMT -5
You've got to get with it. Rock is dead and has been dead for a while. Outside of hip-hop (think Kanye West or Kendrick Lamar) no one in the mainstream is pushing Western music forwards. Yeah, I agree. But I'd rather be out of it than with it. I appreciate hip-hop more I than actually like it. I'm happier exploring jazz, classical, and international stuff, but still listen to a good deal of 60s, 70s, and 80s stuff, and a smattering of bands since then. To me, Eighties was the last decade for rock and it's alternatives. I'd rather listen to K-Pop or J-Pop than anything recent. 1962 seemed to have the most One Hit Wonders of that decade, which epitomized the era. Think Dovells, and other One 0ffs. in 1972 it was the same. Think Looking Glass Brandy, Troglodyte, Mouth and McNiel How Do You Do. The Eighties were wall to wall one hit wonders with all the more stable groups around. Faded towards the end of the decade, but still the best. Even some Rap was cool. Fat Boys Jailhouse Rap. And, the great... Rappin Duke
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Post by zambini on Apr 22, 2018 0:32:48 GMT -5
@cosmicbobo hehe, I can totally picture you rocking out at a BTS concert.
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