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Post by cappadoc on Apr 14, 2018 7:48:38 GMT -5
David Eddings (and his wife Leigh). I absolutely loved the entire series of Pol and Polgara. Great sense of humor and compelling characters and stories.
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Post by crapgame on Apr 14, 2018 9:02:04 GMT -5
I always found Terry pratchett's discworld books easy to read and hilariously funny. Haven't read one of his books in a long time. OMG how could I have forgotten those?? Rincewind... the Luggage.. Granny Weatherwax.. Vimes.... Carrot.. there are disc world movies.. they used to be on Netflix but you can you youtube them also!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2018 9:09:26 GMT -5
I don't mind books written with an anti-hero viewpoint. Lots of great fiction is structured that way. I generally don't enjoy fiction that is too far in the other direction with a Dirk Pitt sort of superman as the hero. That gets old, real fast. My favorite characters in Game of Thrones (TV version) for example, tended to be the ones like Tyrian, the Hound and Davos. They were all rehabilitating themselves in some fashion.
Did any of you read the Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan? A young friend at work keeps recommending them to me. They sound interesting.
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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 14, 2018 10:40:58 GMT -5
I have read all of WOT. I think you will like it. The main characters are each flawed in some way, but they overcome it to reach their goals. More complex characters than most similar stories, a lot of character development. There were some complaints about a couple of books that were mostly character development with little action, but I found that they added immensely to the overall story. The last 2 or 3 volumes were by Sanderson, and he does Jordan as well as Jordan did.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2018 12:11:11 GMT -5
Thanks Ron, I appreciate the feedback. I am going to acquire the first couple of books in that series and give it a try. Sounds interesting. I don't mind slower paced books or movies. I loved 2001 and Bladerunner for example.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2018 14:22:27 GMT -5
I generally don't enjoy fiction that is too far in the other direction with a Dirk Pitt sort of superman as the hero. That gets old, real fast. My favorite example of that kind of character has got to be Doc Savage. The level of skill, muscularity, knowledge etc. described in those stories is hilarious, though also makes them practically unreadable for anyone over the age of 11.
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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 14, 2018 21:37:30 GMT -5
I agree Doc Savage was my kind of guy. Not like that stupid John Carter!
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Post by mwps70 on Apr 14, 2018 22:12:16 GMT -5
I will second both David Eddings The Belgariad Series and Terry Brookes The Shannara series. I will also add R.A.Salvatore The Dark Elf series and Robert Jordan The Wheel of Time series.
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Post by exbenedict on Apr 14, 2018 23:37:10 GMT -5
Wheel of Time and Discworld will keep you occupied for a very long time. Something in the neighborhood of 40 books for Discworld and the WOT series just gets longer and bigger.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2018 1:57:46 GMT -5
I've never heard of Discworld or Wheel of Time. I'll have to check them out.
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Post by Legend Lover on Apr 15, 2018 2:25:07 GMT -5
I've never heard of Discworld or Wheel of Time. I'll have to check them out. Discworld should have you in stitches.
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Post by Stanhill on Apr 15, 2018 2:58:40 GMT -5
I haven't read any Fantasy books apart from Tolkien, for many years, but right here on my great expectations bookshelves, I have a copy of C. S. Lewis' the Narnia Chronicles; books that I've wanted to read for ages, but never got around to until now.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2018 14:14:11 GMT -5
I hate to admit that I have the first Jordan book in my rejects box in the garage. I gave up after about 30 pages - it just didn't grab me. Maybe I should dig it out and try again.
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Post by cappadoc on Apr 15, 2018 18:59:24 GMT -5
I read the first 8 books of WOT out of sheer stubbornness. Did not enjoy them. Faaaaaaaaaaaar to long winded.
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Post by exchef on Apr 15, 2018 19:49:03 GMT -5
I don't mind books written with an anti-hero viewpoint. Lots of great fiction is structured that way. I generally don't enjoy fiction that is too far in the other direction with a Dirk Pitt sort of superman as the hero. That gets old, real fast. My favorite characters in Game of Thrones (TV version) for example, tended to be the ones like Tyrian, the Hound and Davos. They were all rehabilitating themselves in some fashion. Did any of you read the Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan? A young friend at work keeps recommending them to me. They sound interesting. Wheel of Time was excellent. Highly recommend. If you are looking for other great books "Good Omens" by Prachett and Gaimin, Piers Antony's Incarnations of immortality as well as the Apprentice Adept series. Katherine Kurtz Deryni books were great. Can't forget the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and the rest of Douglas Adams' writings. There have been so many over the years that I cannot recall off the top of my head. I'll think about it and post additional suggestions. ExChef
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Post by cappadoc on Apr 15, 2018 20:24:23 GMT -5
Totally forgot about Katherine Kurtz. Loved those books 25 years ago. Another I just thought of- The Deed of Paksenarrion (sp?) by Elizabeth Moon. Loved that one.
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Post by driftingfate on Apr 15, 2018 21:46:42 GMT -5
I read the first 8 books of WOT out of sheer stubbornness. Did not enjoy them. Faaaaaaaaaaaar to long winded. I think I made it through book 7, so you did better than me. Very long winded. Brother-in-law loves them, though.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Apr 15, 2018 22:06:26 GMT -5
When I was a kid I really liked R.A. Salvatore. I started with The Crystal Shard trilogy and read them all from there. I haven't read much in the genre as an adult with a few exceptions.
-George Martin's Song of Ice and Fire books, which are pretty good, but long-winded and dry at times.
-The Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan were as great as they were annoying at times (The last few books in the series were written by Brandon Sanderson and arguably some of the best ones.)
-First Law trilogy by Joe Abercrombie which is a fast paced, easy-reading, violent, high fantasy just for fun kind of story.
-The Oathsworn series by Robert Low. A brutal tale centered around a group of vikings. This one is great because it borders on historical fiction at some points and dips it's toes into the realms of both high and low fantasy.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Apr 15, 2018 22:10:53 GMT -5
The Fritz Leiber Grey Mouser books are great. As is Elantris, and the Mistborn series, both by Brandon Sanderson. I have the Mistborn series on my shelf. I need to get to it!
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Post by PhantomWolf on Apr 15, 2018 22:14:39 GMT -5
I hate to admit that I have the first Jordan book in my rejects box in the garage. I gave up after about 30 pages - it just didn't grab me. Maybe I should dig it out and try again. I will admit that I had to get through much of it with the aid of audio books while on the road. haha
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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 15, 2018 22:27:12 GMT -5
I hate to admit that I have the first Jordan book in my rejects box in the garage. I gave up after about 30 pages - it just didn't grab me. Maybe I should dig it out and try again. Check for scorpions when you fetch it from the garage.
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Post by sablebrush52 on Apr 16, 2018 3:02:49 GMT -5
I used to read a lot of SCI-FI and Fantasy. Pretty much anything by Fritz Leiber, Larry Niven, Jerry Pournell, Harlan Ellison, Robert Silverberg, Ursula K Le Guin, David Gerrold, Robert Heinlein, George RR Martin, Issac Asimov, Phillip José Farmer, Davin Brin, L Sprague De Camp, Roger Zelazny, Anne McCaffrey, Marion Zimmer Bradley, Piers Anthony, Michael Moorcock, Jules Verne, Douglas Adams, Richard Adams, Poul Anderson, Clive Barker, Edgar Rice Burroughs, Roald Dahl, Robert E. Howard, and Ray Bradbury are very much worth reading. Among the newer writers I highly recommend Patrick Rothfuss. Ray Bradbury holds a special place for me as he was one of the first speculative fiction writers I read and I later got to collaborate with him on the movie version of Something Wicked This Way Comes. Ray was a pleasure to work with.
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Post by Legend Lover on Apr 16, 2018 3:44:16 GMT -5
I used to read a lot of SCI-FI and Fantasy. Pretty much anything by Fritz Leiber, Larry Niven, Jerry Pournell, Harlan Ellison, Robert Silverberg, Ursula K Le Guin, David Gerrold, Robert Heinlein, George RR Martin, Issac Asimov, Phillip José Farmer, Davin Brin, L Sprague De Camp, Roger Zelazny, Anne McCaffrey, Marion Zimmer Bradley, Piers Anthony, Michael Moorcock, Jules Verne, Douglas Adams, Richard Adams, Poul Anderson, Clive Barker, Edgar Rice Burroughs, Roald Dahl, Robert E. Howard, and Ray Bradbury are very much worth reading. Among the newer writers I highly recommend Patrick Rothfuss. Ray Bradbury holds a special place for me as he was one of the first speculative fiction writers I read and I later got to collaborate with him on the movie version of Something Wicked This Way Comes. Ray was a pleasure to work with. That's really special. In what way did you collaborate?
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Post by Stanhill on Apr 16, 2018 3:47:54 GMT -5
Oh, yes. Science Fiction. My first writer was Jules Verne, because my parents had a couple of his books on their bookshelves and I still have the Danish translation of '20.000 Leagues Under The Sea', given to my father in 1919, when he was 12. My next one was Ray Bradbury, when I was given a copy of his 'October Country' in the mid-sixties and I've loved his books ever since. I did read a lot of Sci-Fi books in the sixties and seventies; Arthur C. Clarke, Harry Harrison, Fredric Brown, Clifford Simak, Philip K. Dick, Robert Sheckley, William Tenn and a lot of others. It petered out in the late seventies, but last year, I refound my love of Sci-Fi. It's never too late.
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Post by sablebrush52 on Apr 16, 2018 10:23:49 GMT -5
I used to read a lot of SCI-FI and Fantasy. Pretty much anything by Fritz Leiber, Larry Niven, Jerry Pournell, Harlan Ellison, Robert Silverberg, Ursula K Le Guin, David Gerrold, Robert Heinlein, George RR Martin, Issac Asimov, Phillip José Farmer, Davin Brin, L Sprague De Camp, Roger Zelazny, Anne McCaffrey, Marion Zimmer Bradley, Piers Anthony, Michael Moorcock, Jules Verne, Douglas Adams, Richard Adams, Poul Anderson, Clive Barker, Edgar Rice Burroughs, Roald Dahl, Robert E. Howard, and Ray Bradbury are very much worth reading. Among the newer writers I highly recommend Patrick Rothfuss. Ray Bradbury holds a special place for me as he was one of the first speculative fiction writers I read and I later got to collaborate with him on the movie version of Something Wicked This Way Comes. Ray was a pleasure to work with. That's really special. In what way did you collaborate? I worked with Ray to create a new opening sequence and end sequence for the film. Due to fallout from the Twilight Zone disaster, where Vic Morrow and the child actor leads were killed, studios stopped location shooting that involved child actors. When Something Wicked This Way Comes was shot, all of the scenes were done on a sound stage, or the large set that Disney had built on its backlot. There was no exterior footage and the film had a claustrophobic visual feel. There was none of the feel of autumn in the film. There were other structural issues as well in the film that left both Disney and Bradbury unsatisfied. Jack Clayton's contract gave him control over the picture until it was publicly screened and he was happy with the picture and refused to make any changes to it. So the picture sat while the various parties tried to come to an agreement. While this all was happening, I was working on TRON as the background painting supervisor and was also providing layout design to the film. As I was approaching the end of that project I was offered work on SWTWC. The studio decided that the film could not be released in its current state and had decided to shoot new opening and ending sequences for the film, as well as rescoring and redoing all of the visual effects. To this end they assembled a crew from TRON and other projects to handle the revisions. To get around Jack's contract, the studio opened the film quietly at a theater in Hollywood for one screening in the late morning mid week, then pulled it. I was set to work drawing "inspiration sketches" for a new opening sequence, all Fall exteriors, which were sent to Ray. He would review the sketches, offer suggestions, I would do more sketches, toss some more ideas at him, and we had this back and forth for several weeks until he had what he needed to write a new opening as well as an opening monologue voiced over for the picture. Later, I flew with a crew to Vermont to film the Fall colors for the exteriors that we would need to open up the show. In addition, I worked on more sketches and boards for other parts of the show, like the tarantula sequence. Both Disney and Bradbury were happy with the revisions and I got quite a nice birthday present when the production threw a birthday lunch for me. Ray came to the studio to have lunch with me and after the party, stayed to chat with me for a couple of hours about all sorts of stuff. Needless to say, I was thrilled. I never did get my sketches back. Ray like them too much to part with them, and he didn't trust the studio to return them if he sent them to me. Ray was probably right about that. So he had an assistant make xerox copies for me to reference when I was in Vermont. At the time I wasn't too thrilled about it, but in retrospect, that was quite the compliment. Anyway, that's the story.
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Post by Legend Lover on Apr 16, 2018 10:37:16 GMT -5
That's really special. In what way did you collaborate? I worked with Ray to create a new opening sequence and end sequence for the film. Due to fallout from the Twilight Zone disaster, where Vic Morrow and the child actor leads were killed, studios stopped location shooting that involved child actors. When Something Wicked This Way Comes was shot, all of the scenes were done on a sound stage, or the large set that Disney had built on its backlot. There was no exterior footage and the film had a claustrophobic visual feel. There was none of the feel of autumn in the film. There were other structural issues as well in the film that left both Disney and Bradbury unsatisfied. Jack Clayton's contract gave him control over the picture until it was publicly screened and he was happy with the picture and refused to make any changes to it. So the picture sat while the various parties tried to come to an agreement. While this all was happening, I was working on TRON as the background painting supervisor and was also providing layout design to the film. As I was approaching the end of that project I was offered work on SWTWC. The studio decided that the film could not be released in its current state and had decided to shoot new opening and ending sequences for the film, as well as rescoring and redoing all of the visual effects. To this end they assembled a crew from TRON and other projects to handle the revisions. To get around Jack's contract, the studio opened the film quietly at a theater in Hollywood for one screening in the late morning mid week, then pulled it. I was set to work drawing "inspiration sketches" for a new opening sequence, all Fall exteriors, which were sent to Ray. He would review the sketches, offer suggestions, I would do more sketches, toss some more ideas at him, and we had this back and forth for several weeks until he had what he needed to write a new opening as well as an opening monologue voiced over for the picture. Later, I flew with a crew to Vermont to film the Fall colors for the exteriors that we would need to open up the show. In addition, I worked on more sketches and boards for other parts of the show, like the tarantula sequence. Both Disney and Bradbury were happy with the revisions and I got quite a nice birthday present when the production threw a birthday lunch for me. Ray came to the studio to have lunch with me and after the party, stayed to chat with me for a couple of hours about all sorts of stuff. Needless to say, I was thrilled. I never did get my sketches back. Ray like them too much to part with them, and he didn't trust the studio to return them if he sent them to me. Ray was probably right about that. So he had an assistant make xerox copies for me to reference when I was in Vermont. At the time I wasn't too thrilled about it, but in retrospect, that was quite the compliment. Anyway, that's the story. That's awesome.
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Post by crapgame on Apr 16, 2018 11:12:50 GMT -5
Very Cool Sable!
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Post by crapgame on Apr 16, 2018 11:14:39 GMT -5
Not too sure where this fits in.. I love the Silver John books and the John The Balladeer short stories by Manley Wade Wellmen..Outstanding books and better writer!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 13:13:49 GMT -5
I hate to admit that I have the first Jordan book in my rejects box in the garage. I gave up after about 30 pages - it just didn't grab me. Maybe I should dig it out and try again. Check for scorpions when you fetch it from the garage. I'll be safe for another couple of months. Although I've actually never seen a scorpion here - just big-arse centipedes (including in the house). Lots of flesh-ripping red racer snakes last year, but they keep the mice population down.
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Post by Legend Lover on Apr 16, 2018 13:16:59 GMT -5
Check for scorpions when you fetch it from the garage. I'll be safe for another couple of months. Although I've actually never seen a scorpion here - just big-arse centipedes (including in the house). Lots of flesh-ripping red racer snakes last year, but they keep the mice population down. Yikes. Makes me thankful for St. Patrick getting rid of all the snakes in Ireland.
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