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Post by djo on May 31, 2018 14:47:09 GMT -5
I will do an experiment. I will smoke the same pipe (I've chosen a Grabow Bent Duke) until it sours or I get bored. I'm curious about it.
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Post by slowroll on May 31, 2018 15:19:11 GMT -5
Keep us posted on progress--like, "day 27, pipe is smoking great, boy am I bored, I'm putting it in the wood chipper."
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2018 16:07:11 GMT -5
Give credit to Charlie who started the entire concept with his Mark Twain cob.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2018 17:28:36 GMT -5
I will do an experiment. I will smoke the same pipe (I've chosen a Grabow Bent Duke) until it sours or I get bored. I'm curious about it. If I would to do this I would also choose a Dr. Grabow. During this period I would run a cleaner though it on occasion, just to keep the draw open. Now for the tobac I would choose a Codger Blend. Simple tobac, with minimal casings and toppings. This is me. Enjoy your experiment and please keep us posted.
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Post by Legend Lover on May 31, 2018 17:30:13 GMT -5
I think this might take a while longer then killing a cob... Which never died over the course of a few thousand smokes.
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Post by cgvt on May 31, 2018 17:49:33 GMT -5
Quite a while ago I decided to do this to my World's Ugliest Cob. I do not smoke it exclusively and smoke mostly Aros through it, especially cherry and berry blends, but I'll load it up with a codger blend every now and then, too. I don't clean it beyond running a pipe cleaner through the stem once in a great while to keep it open. I smoke it mostly while I'm working around the yard and honestly, I love the damn thing and hope to have it forever. I have found that it is a lot more resilient than you might think.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2018 17:52:32 GMT -5
@cvgt how did you stick the dogs head into your pipe stem?
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Post by cgvt on May 31, 2018 18:07:27 GMT -5
Small dog.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2018 18:49:04 GMT -5
Quite a while ago I decided to do this to my World's Ugliest Cob. I do not smoke it exclusively and smoke mostly Aros through it, especially cherry and berry blends, but I'll load it up with a codger blend every now and then, too. I don't clean it beyond running a pipe cleaner through the stem once in a great while to keep it open. I smoke it mostly while I'm working around the yard and honestly, I love the damn thing and hope to have it forever. I have found that it is a lot more resilient than you might think. You do nothing to the chamber?
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2018 18:50:02 GMT -5
@cvgt how did you stick the dogs head into your pipe stem? Good one. I had to take a second "HUH?" look
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Post by cgvt on May 31, 2018 21:42:49 GMT -5
Quite a while ago I decided to do this to my World's Ugliest Cob. I do not smoke it exclusively and smoke mostly Aros through it, especially cherry and berry blends, but I'll load it up with a codger blend every now and then, too. I don't clean it beyond running a pipe cleaner through the stem once in a great while to keep it open. I smoke it mostly while I'm working around the yard and honestly, I love the damn thing and hope to have it forever. I have found that it is a lot more resilient than you might think. You do nothing to the chamber? Nothing more than making sure all of the dottle is cleared. I want to see how long it takes to cake it up so bad that I can't fill it anymore. I may ream it if it is salvageable when that happens. As I said, I love the damn thing and will hate to toss it out.
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Post by mgtarheel on May 31, 2018 23:03:26 GMT -5
Let us know how it turns out. I am interested to found out how long the Grabow will last.
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Post by Beardedpipesmoker on May 31, 2018 23:08:24 GMT -5
Logically what is your prediction on how long this will take?
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Post by Legend Lover on Jun 1, 2018 1:30:27 GMT -5
@cvgt how did you stick the dogs head into your pipe stem? Hahaha. Fantastic!!
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Post by trailboss on Jun 1, 2018 2:05:19 GMT -5
Give credit to Charlie who started the entire concept with his Mark Twain cob. Different Charlie? I may have a Mark twain cob, but I don't ever remember trying to sour-out a pipe. If I get a pipe getting near that stage, it goes into the mothball fleet until it can be dealt with.
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Post by antb on Jun 1, 2018 3:45:00 GMT -5
Methinks you can not kill a briar. A couple of years back Charl Goussard gave me a "pipe" to teach me not to be too scared of ruining a briar bowl. It is basically a poker shaped bowl (natural/unfinished) with an aluminium tube as shank and an ebonite mouthpiece. His instructions were to smoke it as many times daily as I could, never clean it (unless absolutely neccessary) and to smoke it as hot as I wished. You may have read of this pipe in the WAYS thread from time to time, I dubbed it the Goussard workshop poker. Well, I've been smoking the heck out of this thing for a couple of years now and.....it's coloring nicely No damage whatsover. Only been reamed once, when the cake build up became so thick I couldn't fit my little finger into the bowl anymore. So, yes, a good piece of briar can take a lot of abuse/use. Our grandfathers often only had one briar and not often "killed" it. I know one "briar killer" though. My plumber only smokes those smallish Peterson system full bents. He smokes one pipe only and he smokes the whole day. Even then it takes him about 3 to 5 years to finally crack the bowl or otherwise damage the pipe. He then tosses the pipe in the garbage and buys a new one exactly the same That being said, I take good care of my favourite briars and will not risk damaging them. I am, however, much less scared of damage than when I started smoking. So good luck with your experiment, djo!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2018 13:22:44 GMT -5
trailboss. referring to the cob experiment thread at the old PSF.
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Post by trailboss on Jun 1, 2018 15:57:02 GMT -5
trailboss. referring to the cob experiment thread at the old PSF. Roger!
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Post by Legend Lover on Jun 1, 2018 16:28:56 GMT -5
So it's Roger now?
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Post by djo on Jun 3, 2018 22:33:55 GMT -5
OK, it's June 3. I started this experiment on June 1, so it's day 3.
So far: it's a pipe. What can I say. I smoke my after breakfast Lane Ready Rubbed in it (my morning smoke was Prince Albert until I discovered LRR) and my current daily tobacco is Luxury Navy Flake. No appreciable cake yet. Certainly no dampness or odd flavor.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jun 3, 2018 23:07:32 GMT -5
I don't believe that it is possible to kill a briar without setting it on fire. I have revived pipes that were so caked that you couldn't get a pencil in the bowl, and no air through the shank. Cleaned up, they are my best smokers. I am certain that two of the pipes outlived the previous owners.
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Post by Legend Lover on Jun 4, 2018 3:03:24 GMT -5
We should have set a cob up against it to see how they fare against each other.
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Post by djo on Jul 9, 2018 17:09:51 GMT -5
Well, I smoked it for about a month. At this point, it appears to be a pipe. Nothing has changed, other than a little buildup inside the bowl (some people call it "cake"). So, I have come to this conclusion: A pipe is a piece of wood with two holes drilled in it. It's kinda hard to screw up.
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Post by joeman on Jul 9, 2018 17:28:27 GMT -5
Yep. And if you continue on smoking...keeping the dottle mopped, and a cleaner thru the stem, likely only one of two things will happen...eventually. You'll cake it up until you can't put tobacco in it anymore...or the thickness of the cake will heat and swell at a different ratio than the briar, causing one or more major cracks. And, neither of these will be the fault of your poor bent Duke.
Since you picked a bent Grabow Duke...I can vouch for it...I've got a plain old bent Duke which is from perhaps the early 60's or earlier (based on design which was NOT done as of the time my friend began at Grabow in 1966, or anytime later). This bent Duke is a TOP smoker...but would cost a small fraction of other mid-range and higher end pipes I have.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2018 18:10:26 GMT -5
I don't believe that it is possible to kill a briar without setting it on fire. I have revived pipes that were so caked that you couldn't get a pencil in the bowl, and no air through the shank. Cleaned up, they are my best smokers. I am certain that two of the pipes outlived the previous owners. Only 2 so called briars I ever burned out. Both were none other than Mr Brog....both had under 50 smokes and either a hole through the bottom or side. Definitely wasn’t briar or even a hard root wood. Honestly, I don’t have a clue, nope it wasn’t pear wood either. Some love their Brog but I’m surely not one of them!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2018 18:15:06 GMT -5
We should have set a cob up against it to see how they fare against each other. If, and I say a BIG IF, you have the patience to break in a good Cob it should last your lifetime. The old MM Cobs with the soft bottoms did not last me long to burn thru the bottom. For over 10 years I waited for MM to make a better Cob, and “ dag nab it “ they now make some outstanding Cobs 👍👍👍
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Post by slowroll on Jul 9, 2018 18:24:43 GMT -5
Well, I'm not sure you can kill a Briar even by letting the cake build until you barely get a pencil in it. I have a couple of Jarls and Savs that I let get that caked out of laziness a few times and they're fine, been smoking them for over 40 years.
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Post by monbla256 on Jul 9, 2018 18:25:47 GMT -5
Let us know how it turns out. I am interested to found out how long the Grabow will last. They last indefinately from my experience with my parents neighbor, who died 5 years ago. I knew him from when I was 16 till 5 years ago. He smoked only 3 pipes, all Grabows and the same PA all these years and . His wife gave them to me when he died and I've not smoked them yet!
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Post by That Falls Guy on Jul 9, 2018 19:37:02 GMT -5
When it comes to Dr.Grabows, listen to joeman . He is a foremost authority on these pipes. I doubt that there are too many others having such a familiarity with these as he does.
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Post by dave g on Jul 9, 2018 21:23:53 GMT -5
I will do an experiment. I will smoke the same pipe (I've chosen a Grabow Bent Duke) until it sours or I get bored. I'm curious about it. Those old Grabow’s will take a beating and keep on ticking. I used to smoke an old Grabow at work all week. 2-3 bowls a day. It’ll be interesting to see how long it lasts. I don’t think you’ll kill it. It may need a good cleaning and rest when you’re done.
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