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Post by pappyjoe on Jun 15, 2018 9:20:09 GMT -5
One of my sisters living in Texas went into a junk shop and decided to buy me a Royal Danish 991R stamped Made in Denmark. It has a crown on the stem. So, I know it's a Stanwell second and it was made before the pipe carving was moved to Italy. I have been searching to find out what the shape is but haven't found anything about a 991R (I'm pretty sure the R means rusticated, though.) Any Stanwell or Royal Danish experts on here?  |
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Post by Legend Lover on Jun 15, 2018 11:06:50 GMT -5
One of my sisters living in Texas went into a junk shop and decided to buy me a Royal Danish 991R stamped Made in Denmark. It has a crown on the stem. So, I know it's a Stanwell second and it was made before the pipe carving was moved to Italy. I have been searching to find out what the shape is but haven't found anything about a 991R (I'm pretty sure the R means rusticated, though.) Any Stanwell or Royal Danish experts on here? Perhaps Stanhill might be able to help you out in this. Looks like a nice find though once it's cleaned up a bit. |
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Post by Darin on Jun 15, 2018 12:26:04 GMT -5
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Post by haebar on Jun 15, 2018 17:23:30 GMT -5
Nice pipe; it should be a good smoker.
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Post by Stanhill on Jun 16, 2018 2:56:35 GMT -5
Your Stanwell looks like a 04M- 'M' fpr Military Mount. Here is my Royal Danish 04M.
The shape 91 can be seen below. The prefix 9- indicates a sandblated version. The -R is a large-sized pipe.
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Post by Stanhill on Jun 16, 2018 3:35:18 GMT -5
Your Stanwell looks like a 04M - 'M' fpr Military Mount. Here is my Royal Danish 04M.
The shape 91 can be seen below. The prefix 9- indicates a sandblated version. The -R is a large-sized pipe. See Pipedia's Stanwell page, catalogue no. 5 for my version of the 04 and catalogue no. 9 for your no. 04. There is ever so slightly a difference in design and the stems are different too.
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Post by pappyjoe on Jun 16, 2018 7:14:08 GMT -5
Your Stanwell looks like a 04M - 'M' fpr Military Mount. Here is my Royal Danish 04M.
The shape 91 can be seen below. The prefix 9- indicates a sandblated version. The -R is a large-sized pipe. See Pipedia's Stanwell page, catalogue no. 5 for my version of the 04 and catalogue no. 9 for your no. 04. There is ever so slightly a difference in design and the stems are different too.
Now I'm confused. Is it an O4M or is it a shape 91? Or is it an 04M in the shape of a 91? Looking at the catalogue now I can see the difference in the stems. Will have to examine it good when it arrives to see the difference in the bowls. I'm guessing it was produced some time after 1970 since the catalogue is in full color after that time. |
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Post by Stanhill on Jun 16, 2018 12:29:02 GMT -5
See Pipedia's Stanwell page, catalogue no. 5 for my version of the 04 and catalogue no. 9 for your no. 04. There is ever so slightly a difference in design and the stems are different too.
Looking at the catalogue now I can see the difference in the stems. Will have to examine it good when it arrives to see the difference in the bowls. I'm guessing it was produced some time after 1970 since the catalogue is in full color after that time. No reason to be. Yours is a shape 04. As can be seen in my photo, shape 91 is quite different in design. Both designed by Sixten Ivarsson.
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Post by pappyjoe on Jun 16, 2018 13:50:06 GMT -5
No reason to be. Yours is a shape 04. As can be seen in my photo, shape 91 is quite different in design. Both designed by Sixten Ivarsson.
And therein lies my confusion. If it is a shape 04 why is it stamped 991R |
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Post by Stanhill on Jun 16, 2018 14:16:12 GMT -5
No reason to be. Yours is a shape 04. As can be seen in my photo, shape 91 is quite different in design. Both designed by Sixten Ivarsson.
And therein lies my confusion. If it is a shape 04 why is it stamped 991R If your pipe is actually stamped with 991R, Stanwell made a stamping error, plain and simple. Your pipe is a shape 04 and has nothing to do with shape 91. Trust me.
I hope that you'll write a follow-up when you receive the pipe. |
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Post by Legend Lover on Jun 16, 2018 15:44:38 GMT -5
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Post by Stanhill on Jun 16, 2018 15:49:05 GMT -5
I was just lucky, as I have both pipes in my collection.  |
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Post by pappyjoe on Jun 17, 2018 7:16:34 GMT -5
I hope that you'll write a follow-up when you receive the pipe. I'll post some photos once I have the pipe in hand and do a follow up once it's cleaned. I just can't understand how a company like Stanwell would miss-stamp a pipe. On the other hand, my sister may have confused the pipe numbers. |
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Post by pappyjoe on Jun 18, 2018 18:40:04 GMT -5
Got the pipe. It’s the 991r which looks like a squat tomato or brandy. I told her she sent me the wrong photo. Shame because I liked the 04 better.
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Post by Darin on Jun 18, 2018 19:09:01 GMT -5
Sounds like my link was actually relevant!  |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jun 18, 2018 20:36:37 GMT -5
Every time I find a descent pipe at an antique store it's a Scandia, which I understand is also a Stanwell second. I have several and they are always good smokers.
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Post by Stanhill on Jun 19, 2018 2:58:50 GMT -5
Got the pipe. It’s the 991r which looks like a squat tomato or brandy. I told her she sent me the wrong photo. Shame because I liked the 04 better. The 9-91R is a great smoker and it's very comfortable to hold. You'll get used to it.
Actually, it's Sixten Ivarsson's Stanwell version of his 'Ukulele' from the fifties.
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Post by Stanhill on Jun 19, 2018 3:02:22 GMT -5
Every time I find a descent pipe at an antique store it's a Scandia, which I understand is also a Stanwell second. I have several and they are always good smokers. I've got only one Scandia (442) and that is indeed a great smoker.
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Post by pappyjoe on Jun 19, 2018 6:46:01 GMT -5
I will start the restoration process this afternoon after I take some good “ before” photos.
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Post by Legend Lover on Jun 19, 2018 6:54:06 GMT -5
I will start the restoration process this afternoon after I take some good “ before” photos. can't wait to see the difference. |
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Post by pappyjoe on Jun 19, 2018 9:31:06 GMT -5
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Post by Legend Lover on Jun 19, 2018 11:27:19 GMT -5
Wow that's a banged up rim.
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Post by william on Jun 19, 2018 16:22:47 GMT -5
So I always assumed when a pipe was "topped" that something like a band saw was used. Never thought of a sander. This is going to be an interesting thread. |
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Post by pappyjoe on Jun 20, 2018 11:00:59 GMT -5
After two days worth of work, this is where I'm at with the Royal Danish. I still haven't finished the rim. Haven't decided where to go. top of bowl:  Right Side:  Front:  Left Side:  Finished Stem  |
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Post by Legend Lover on Jun 20, 2018 11:27:51 GMT -5
Good work so far. Stem looks great.
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Post by Stanhill on Jun 20, 2018 13:55:57 GMT -5
So far so good. Great stem work. See if you can round the outer side of the rim just a little.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2018 14:49:10 GMT -5
When I've done this, I lay out a sheet of sandpaper on a breadboard and grasping the pipe firmly, sand it counter clockwise, periodically checking progress until I get the rim where I want it.
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Post by william on Jun 20, 2018 15:04:34 GMT -5
When I've done this, I lay out a sheet of sandpaper on a breadboard and grasping the pipe firmly, sand it counter clockwise, periodically checking progress until I get the rim where I want it. Well that sounds more prudent than taking a belt sander to it. |
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Post by pappyjoe on Jun 20, 2018 15:36:20 GMT -5
Actually, I use a 320 grit sanding sponge from Lowes. Didn't want to risk taking too much briar off with a belt sander.
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Post by antb on Jun 21, 2018 1:52:18 GMT -5
Good progress!
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