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Post by Wolfman on Jun 22, 2018 9:15:31 GMT -5
Upon opening the square tin, I’m greeted with three rows of perfectly aligned dark brown solid flakes. They feel slightly damp, but do not need to dry. I usually fold and stuff, but rubbing out works well if that’s your preference.
When smoking, I taste nuts, some earthiness, and chocolate, at times. It’s spicy but has some sweetness (molasses?) to it. It’s never harsh, even if I take quick puffs. It smokes well in various briars and cobs. It’s a slow burning tobacco, so set aside at least an hour to smoke.
This is an exceptional all-day burley. If you love burley, this will make you happy.
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Post by haebar on Jun 22, 2018 9:19:09 GMT -5
Thanks for the review; I will have to get some of this. Have you tried Solani Aged Burley Flake?
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Post by Legend Lover on Jun 22, 2018 9:46:17 GMT -5
Another good review, Sam. I enjoy reading them.
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Post by Wolfman on Jun 22, 2018 10:26:01 GMT -5
Thanks for the review; I will have to get some of this. Have you tried Solani Aged Burley Flake? Unfortunately I have not. I can’t seem to locate any. I tried ordering some from SP, but they sold out as about to order. |
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Post by Wolfman on Jun 22, 2018 10:27:10 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 10:40:32 GMT -5
Thanks for the review; I will have to get some of this. Have you tried Solani Aged Burley Flake? Unfortunately I have not. I can’t seem to locate any. I tried ordering some from SP, but they sold out as about to order. Sam, shoot me your addy via PM and I'll send some to you  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 12:15:39 GMT -5
Wolfman, I agree and I think with 3 years of aging it will only get better 👍👍👍 Smokingpipes had it in stock twice so far and will again shortly. Sign up for their email notice when it’s back on the shelf.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 12:44:42 GMT -5
You had to do it...
Nice work as always Sam. Mac Baron is pretty well represented in the cellar but this one slipped through the cracks, probably because I used to really dig Burley London Blend and moved on to others when that one was discontinued. Sounds great and it's on the list now.
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Post by Wolfman on Jun 22, 2018 13:06:51 GMT -5
Wolfman, I agree and I think with 3 years of aging it will only get better 👍👍👍 Smokingpipes had it in stock twice so far and will again shortly. Sign up for their email notice when it’s back on the shelf. @lonecoyote. I can only imagine what it’s like with age. The challenge will be not to smoke it. I’ll have to hide some. |
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Post by Darin on Jun 22, 2018 15:22:59 GMT -5
Nice review, Sam! I've smoked a whole tin of this and love it ... perfect morning smoke with coffee.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 15:28:30 GMT -5
Wolfman......I only spend a certain amount a month on a new tobacco that I know I will enjoy. Last time I purchased 6 of the larger tins, 2 for now and 4 to cellar. Heck.....with a few years of aging it might surpass my favorite Burley Flake....Solani ABF. So, once I’m sure that other pipe smokers had their chance to enjoy this excellent Burley Flake I would definitely like to purchase 6 more. Might be a while until it’s back in stock.
UPDATE.......4NOGGINS HAS FILLED THEIR SHELVES AGAIN.....ORDER FAST.....I’M GAVING YA’LL A HEADS UP......AFTER 2 DAYS IT’S FAIR GAME!!!
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Post by JimInks on Jun 22, 2018 15:41:31 GMT -5
You had to do it... Nice work as always Sam. Mac Baron is pretty well represented in the cellar but this one slipped through the cracks, probably because I used to really dig Burley London Blend and moved on to others when that one was discontinued. Sounds great and it's on the list now. While it's not like BLB, I noticed one of the burleys used in Burley Flake was one used in BLB. I really think you'll like it. I could smoke it all day. |
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Post by JimInks on Jun 22, 2018 15:43:23 GMT -5
Wolfman, I agree and I think with 3 years of aging it will only get better 👍👍👍 Smokingpipes had it in stock twice so far and will again shortly. Sign up for their email notice when it’s back on the shelf. @lonecoyote . I can only imagine what it’s like with age. The challenge will be not to smoke it. I’ll have to hide some. As burley ages slowly, I'm not sure age will make too much of a difference, unless you're talking over ten years or so. The Virginia will age better and the dark fired will mellow. I really recommend trying it fresh before you decide to age. |
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Post by Darin on Jun 22, 2018 16:08:08 GMT -5
Age does mellow the Burley and improve the overall quality of the smoke. The 2010 Solani ABF I've been smoking is fantastic ... dark as molasses and smoother than silk! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 16:34:40 GMT -5
@lonecoyote . I can only imagine what it’s like with age. The challenge will be not to smoke it. I’ll have to hide some. As burley ages slowly, I'm not sure age will make too much of a difference, unless you're talking over ten years or so. The Virginia will age better and the dark fired will mellow. I really recommend trying it fresh before you decide to age. Thanks Jim, I have 2 tins out to smoke. I’ve been enjoying it fresh. Burley does age much slower then Virginia’s but I figure 3 to 5 years should make a bit of difference with this fine Burley Flake. In another 10 years I won’t need to worry about nothing much! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 16:35:34 GMT -5
Age does mellow the Burley and improve the overall quality of the smoke. The 2010 Solani ABF I've been smoking is fantastic ... dark as molasses and smoother than silk! Youbetcha.....it’s a favorite of mine 👍👍👍 |
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Post by JimInks on Jun 22, 2018 17:14:24 GMT -5
As burley ages slowly, I'm not sure age will make too much of a difference, unless you're talking over ten years or so. The Virginia will age better and the dark fired will mellow. I really recommend trying it fresh before you decide to age. Thanks Jim, I have 2 tins out to smoke. I’ve been enjoying it fresh. Burley does age much slower then Virginia’s but I figure 3 to 5 years should make a bit of difference with this fine Burley Flake. In another 10 years I won’t need to worry about nothing much! It'll make a small difference, but the burley won't change much at all in that short a time. Not from my experience with burley blends, anyway. |
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Post by trailboss on Jun 22, 2018 17:25:00 GMT -5
In light of that Jim, and how some warn of square tin failure that it might be a good idea if a guy was to age five or six tins by cracking the seals, dump in a jar to put up?
Avoid square tin failure over the long haul, and more air to help the fermentat’n process?
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Post by JimInks on Jun 22, 2018 17:39:19 GMT -5
In light of that Jim, and how some warn of square tin failure that it might be a good idea if a guy was to age five or six tins by cracking the seals, dump in a jar to put up? Avoid square tin failure over the long haul, and more air to help the fermentat’n process? Not all square tins fail, but it can happen. I've had old Sam Gawith tins that kept their seals for years, and only have had one failure. MacBaren Navy Flake seals have held well for me, too, as have HH Old Dark Fired.
Just to be safe, it doesn't hurt to jar them, but I've had good success as things are.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 17:42:17 GMT -5
In light of that Jim, and how some warn of square tin failure that it might be a good idea if a guy was to age five or six tins by cracking the seals, dump in a jar to put up? Avoid square tin failure over the long haul, and more air to help the fermentat’n process? Yup, I don’t trust square tins, from personal experience. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 17:51:38 GMT -5
In light of that Jim, and how some warn of square tin failure that it might be a good idea if a guy was to age five or six tins by cracking the seals, dump in a jar to put up? Avoid square tin failure over the long haul, and more air to help the fermentat’n process? Yup, I don’t trust square tins, from personal experience. Off topic but I haven't experienced any square tin fails and I've popped a couple from the 80s. Perhaps I've just gotten lucky; however, I've never worried about square tins. C&D? That's another issue for another thread. |
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Post by trailboss on Jun 22, 2018 18:42:46 GMT -5
If memory serve me correct (which isn’t the best) Jesse said that he has had square tin failures.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 18:52:08 GMT -5
Yup, I don’t trust square tins, from personal experience. Off topic but I haven't experienced any square tin fails and I've popped a couple from the 80s. Perhaps I've just gotten lucky; however, I've never worried about square tins. C&D? That's another issue for another thread. Great point......C&D tins!!! I ONLY purchase C&D blends I stock up on in bulk form. Never had any mold issues in their bulk tobacco’s! Every tin of Bijou but one had severe mold, they were replaced by Smokingpipes with no problem. A few weeks ago I opened another tin from late 2017....guess what...more mold. I was so ticked off I just threw the entire blend in the garbage. No more C&D tinned tobacco’s for me! If you have ANY C&D tins that have under 2 years of aging but the top & bottom is swollen like a baseball I’d suggest opening and take a look. All tinned tobacco’s will swell a bit with age, but not look like a baseball ⚾️ baseball ⚾️! |
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Post by sablebrush52 on Jun 22, 2018 20:09:17 GMT -5
If memory serve me correct (which isn’t the best) Jesse said that he has had square tin failures. Yes I have. Square tins are more hit and miss than round. If you think about it, keeping the pressure of the seal even all around the circumference is much easier to do with a round tin than a square one. I've had failed MacBaren tins from the '70's and '80's, and any number of tins whose contents had become very dry after a decade or so. If you're thinking to age long term, pop them and put in a jar. But remember that burleys don't age like Virginias. They'll gain a little flavor and nuttiness, but it's more subtle than with Virginias. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 20:16:47 GMT -5
If memory serve me correct (which isn’t the best) Jesse said that he has had square tin failures. Yes I have. Square tins are more hit and miss than round. If you think about it, keeping the pressure of the seal even all around the circumference is much easier to do with a round tin than a square one. I've had failed MacBaren tins from the '70's and '80's, and any number of tins whose contents had become very dry after a decade or so. If you're thinking to age long term, pop them and put in a jar. But remember that burleys don't age like Virginias. They'll gain a little flavor and nuttiness, but it's more subtle than with Virginias. Have to respectfully disagree. I'm sure there are bad square tins out there but I'll take my chances with mine because the odds are relatively low the seals on any of the tins are defective and there's little to no return on investment wasting time and money jarring. Bad play IMHO. The worst that can happen is I'll have to do a little rehydrating if I actually find a bad one someday so no worries on this end. |
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Post by sablebrush52 on Jun 22, 2018 21:03:35 GMT -5
Yes I have. Square tins are more hit and miss than round. If you think about it, keeping the pressure of the seal even all around the circumference is much easier to do with a round tin than a square one. I've had failed MacBaren tins from the '70's and '80's, and any number of tins whose contents had become very dry after a decade or so. If you're thinking to age long term, pop them and put in a jar. But remember that burleys don't age like Virginias. They'll gain a little flavor and nuttiness, but it's more subtle than with Virginias. Have to respectfully disagree. I'm sure there are bad square tins out there but I'll take my chances with mine because the odds are relatively low the seals on any of the tins are defective and there's little to no return on investment wasting time and money jarring. Bad play IMHO. The worst that can happen is I'll have to do a little rehydrating if I actually find a bad one someday so no worries on this end. You're welcome to disagree. But, of course, you're wrong. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 21:07:32 GMT -5
You're welcome to disagree. But, of course, you're wrong. Based on any empirical data which you can illustrate to prove your conclusion? I think not because your entire premise, as well as your conclusion, is deeply flawed and incorrect.  |
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Post by trailboss on Jun 22, 2018 23:02:19 GMT -5
I am really into conflict resolution here. The only way this issue can be resolved is to issue plane tickets to the Arizona Pipe club to both your houses, and let us rummage through your cellars. Think of it as a Blue Ribbon commission earnestly trying to get to the truth of this matter! Based from Phoenix...just trying to keep the price low. www.flyswiftair.com/ |
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Post by Cramptholomew on Jul 6, 2018 9:33:45 GMT -5
I had my first try of HH BF last night. The tin note struck me kind of funny. Almost sulphered black strap molasses, with a hint of soy sauce. Maybe even some Australian black licorice, without the licorice, if that makes sense. I lit it up and was surprised again. I didn't get much sweetness or any chocolate. MAYBE a hint of a 90% cacoa chocolate, but not anything creamy. I tasted heavy grass, some heavily roasted nuts, and wood, with a little bit of the black strap molasses coming through. I liked it, because it kind of threw me for a loop. Not my favorite, but not bad in any way. Just... different.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 21:02:55 GMT -5
I had my first try of HH BF last night. The tin note struck me kind of funny. Almost sulphered black strap molasses, with a hint of soy sauce. Maybe even some Australian black licorice, without the licorice, if that makes sense. I lit it up and was surprised again. I didn't get much sweetness or any chocolate. MAYBE a hint of a 90% cacoa chocolate, but not anything creamy. I tasted heavy grass, some heavily roasted nuts, and wood, with a little bit of the black strap molasses coming through. I liked it, because it kind of threw me for a loop. Not my favorite, but not bad in any way. Just... different. I pretty much concur with your description. It does make me think of molasses or similar flavors. Maybe a little burnt toffee? |
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