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Post by jeffd on Jun 27, 2018 11:56:31 GMT -5
I have noticed over the years that vintage ceramic tobacco jars are more popular among non-smokers as a dustable decoration.
Is ceramic a no no for tobacco storage? Even if the lid has a rubberish gromet?
I know that glass is the favorite, but what, specifically is the deal with all the cool decorative ceramic options.
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Post by Legend Lover on Jun 27, 2018 12:04:55 GMT -5
Ceramic is porous so maybe that's got something to do with it. vov
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Post by oldcajun123 on Jun 27, 2018 12:14:10 GMT -5
Ball jars!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2018 12:14:14 GMT -5
For long term storage I use only glass jars, you’ll get an air tight seal. Especially for blends you intend on aging for many years. I use the ceramic type for blends that’s in my daily rotation. Hope that helps with your decision.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jun 27, 2018 12:29:06 GMT -5
I have a large collection. I even made new neoprene gaskets for some. But they don't keep the tobacco fresh. Nice to look at, though.
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Post by haebar on Jun 27, 2018 13:22:26 GMT -5
If it has a fired glaze on it, it should be fine for storing tobacco assuming your lid seals good.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2018 13:41:37 GMT -5
I have a large collection. I even made new neoprene gaskets for some. But they don't keep the tobacco fresh. Nice to look at, though. +1. Neoprene gaskets are great for short term which can be a good thing as tobacco will dry a little slowly and become almost perfect from the jar at some point but it’s tough to time unless you’re into a jar on a regular basis or don’t mind crispy when it’s been too long.
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Post by haebar on Jun 27, 2018 14:02:22 GMT -5
If it has a fired glaze on it, it should be fine for storing tobacco assuming your lid seals good. But for long-term storage, use glass canning jars. Those ceramic humidors are for short to medium-term storage.
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Post by trailboss on Jun 27, 2018 14:49:18 GMT -5
I think they were more useful in days gone by, when a lot of single blend smokers constantly smoked, and a lot of them had wet aromatics that probably burned better with a little drying time.
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Post by jeffd on Jun 27, 2018 15:14:21 GMT -5
My dad had this great dark blue jar, with a three pronged metal clasp thing that held the lid down.
But on thinking about it, I do recall Dad complaining that the tobacco dried before he smoked it all, and he put apple slices in there with the tobacco to moisten it.
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Post by jeffd on Jun 27, 2018 15:19:05 GMT -5
It would seem that a modern stainless steel container with clasped lid as for loose ground coffee would be better than vintage ceramic jars with all that cool mojo.
I wonder how good and reliable the new Savinelli tobacco jars are. They sure look handsome.
Ah well, I guess glass jars are best. And get some vintage jars for decoration, and of course, to dust.
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Post by pepesdad1 on Jun 27, 2018 19:52:16 GMT -5
I use glass containers, but I still have the Comoy ceramic humidor with the three prong screw down on a ceramic lid from the 60's. I had tobacco stored in it unbeknownst to me up until 2013 and it was still good. Naturally in my excitement, I dropped it and now it is glued together as a reminder to be more careful..yeah, it is shot all to hell and back now. The rubber gasket was dried out and the lid is still intact, but the squat lower part is done.
Jeffd was it a comoy jar?
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Post by william on Jun 27, 2018 21:02:06 GMT -5
I think they were more useful in days gone by, when a lot of single blend smokers constantly smoked, and a lot of them had wet aromatics that probably burned better with a little drying time. I agree. I still have two from the late 1970s when I smoked one Tinder Box aromatic blend. One has a huge sponge in the lid, the other has the name "Baldelli" on the lid. The lid on this one has a rotating knob that tightens a neoprene (I think) band against the inside of the jar. I don't keep tobacco in either of these, but I have thought that the one with the big sponge in the lid would be good to rehydrate a dry blend. By the way--since I have been smoking primarily Wessex, Fribourg & Treyer, and Sam Gawaith Virginia flakes, I will admit I have not found a dry blend yet since I have returned to this "hobby."
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2018 21:20:39 GMT -5
Ball jars! Yep, Ball jars are best for long term bulk tobacco storage. I keep bulk tobaccos that I am currently using in the wider mouthed Fido bailtop jars for easy access.
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Post by jeffd on Jun 27, 2018 22:36:10 GMT -5
I use glass containers, but I still have the Comoy ceramic humidor with the three prong screw down on a ceramic lid from the 60's. I had tobacco stored in it unbeknownst to me up until 2013 and it was still good. Naturally in my excitement, I dropped it and now it is glued together as a reminder to be more careful..yeah, it is shot all to hell and back now. The rubber gasket was dried out and the lid is still intact, but the squat lower part is done. Jeffd was it a comoy jar? You have to understand I left home at 18, twas a long time ago. But i googled comoy and yes I believe so. It was that shape, in dark dark blue, with the three pronged screw.
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Post by trailboss on Jun 27, 2018 23:18:44 GMT -5
Mark Ryan of Daughters and Ryan blends, admits that his blends are dryer than most...a few tins that I have purchased are like a growing Chia pet when the vaccum seal is released...the tobacco springs from the container. Mark has fielded complaints from customers, his response is "if you want to pay for water, I can make the tobacco more moist, I am selling tobacco not water." I don't see a lot of hoopla about Daughters and Ryan tobaccos, yes... they are dryer than most, but some really underrated tobaccos in my opinion. I really like Picayune, a good kick in the arse. www.tobaccoreviews.com/blend/4343/d-r-tobacco-picayune-the-pride-of-new-orleans
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Post by Legend Lover on Jun 28, 2018 2:13:35 GMT -5
Mark Ryan of Daughters and Ryan blends, admits that his blends are dryer than most...a few tins that I have purchased are like a growing Chia pet when the vaccum seal is released...the tobacco springs from the container. Mark has fielded complaints from customers, his response is "if you want to pay for water, I can make the tobacco more moist, I am selling tobacco not water." Awesome reply...
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Post by Dramatwist on Jun 28, 2018 2:22:25 GMT -5
My dad had this great dark blue jar, with a three pronged metal clasp thing that held the lid down. But on thinking about it, I do recall Dad complaining that the tobacco dried before he smoked it all, and he put apple slices in there with the tobacco to moisten it. I remember doing the apple slices thing back in the day. Bad idea, wherever I got it.
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Post by jeffd on Jun 28, 2018 8:18:37 GMT -5
By today's standards what happened back then is kind of funny. My dad smoked Brindley's Mixture and since it was available readily he never thought about cellering. It wasn't a part of anything. He mostly bought it by the single pouch in the box, one at a time, when he needed it. Now and again he would get a 14 oz "paint can" with the little key thingy.
If he couldn't find the pouch, (or more properly, when we kids, asked to get him his pipe, couldn't find the tobacco), he would forget about it and just buy another pouch. And so you would find these 3/4 empty pouch now and again, all over the house.
So he bought this Comoy filled it, and smoked out of the jar for a while. But eventually he would forget and get his pouch on the way home or whenever, and smoke the pouch. He was so used to the pouch I think he forgot the jar altogether, and it got covered with old newspapers and stuff and out of sight out of mind.
And the jar, which still had about 1/3 left in it, was eventually found, and opened and Dad said it was too dry, put in the apple slices, and soon enough we forgot about it again as the habit of a pouch at a time was ingrained.
Two three things of his I would have liked to have. One was that comoy jar, another was his big cast iron looking ashtray with the cork knocker in the center, and the third was his abalone shell ashtray. That all got lost, but I did get his Czech tool.
Its curious I never wanted his pipes.
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Post by pepesdad1 on Jun 28, 2018 12:03:22 GMT -5
Well, if you ever find the comoy jar and you need a lid or the three prong screw down....I'll be happy to give you mine. The bottom of the jar, however is as I said all busted to hell. I glued it but it just isn't the same and I doubt that it would hold the baccy satisfactorily.
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Post by daveinlax on Jun 28, 2018 18:42:49 GMT -5
I keep my tobacco that's at hand in a plastic bag in a Delft tobacco jar. I've never moistened the stone but it looks good enough to mrslax to stay on my smokers table in the living room. I love stuff and this is one of my favorite things!
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Post by jeffd on Aug 8, 2018 15:32:38 GMT -5
I finally got a couple of Comoy tobacco jars. One is filled with Carter Hall. For two reasons. It is a smoke I like when i don't know what I want. And Carter Hall just behaves so well, fill, tamp, light, and you are good for the whole bowl. So when I have pipe sympathetic friends over I use the jar and the whole thing is impressive. Get my moves down.
The other jar is currently empty, but I intend to fill it with something like Blood Red Moon, that would benefit from drying, and can be smoked in public.
It feels good to have them actually, and to use them a bit until its a problem.
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Post by monbla256 on Aug 8, 2018 16:01:39 GMT -5
Back around 1990 the local B&M was going out of business and selling all their stock. I got one of those black/red sq. Dunhill ashtrays and a small white glazed ceramic Dunhill My Mixture tobacco jars which holds about 8 oz. of tobacco. I put my Balkan Supreme in it and since I smoke a couple of bowls of it a day it keeps things smokeble for about amonth when I refill it. It's nice looking and works fine as I use it but it's not for large amts of tobacco for long term storage.
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Post by That Falls Guy on Aug 8, 2018 16:14:19 GMT -5
Might make a good storage medium for goopy tobaccos like Boswells or Molto Dolce. I wonder which would last longer, the goop or the jar.
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Post by Stanhill on Aug 8, 2018 16:36:48 GMT -5
Ceramic is porous so maybe that's got something to do with it. vov But aren't the ceramic always glazed..? Ceramic jars have been around for a very long time and for a reason, I'd guess. They were not meant for long-time storage; just to keep your tobacco for the everyday smoke. I'd very much like to own one.
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Post by Pistol Pete 1911 on Aug 9, 2018 8:45:59 GMT -5
Ball jars! Agreed!
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Post by libertysmoke on Feb 12, 2019 11:10:02 GMT -5
For long term storage I use only glass jars, you’ll get an air tight seal. Especially for blends you intend on aging for many years. I use the ceramic type for blends that’s in my daily rotation. Hope that helps with your decision. I do basically the same , as I have / use a small squat-round ceramic jar for my daily [next up bowl] needs . Tobak stays fresh longer than you would think ... I leave the lid off for rapid dry .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 12:29:18 GMT -5
Some of old jars are crock and unglazed inside and some of old humidor jars that sit in the big pipe holders had makeshift humidicant thing. For some reason I don't think the old boys keep thirteen tins open at a time
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