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Post by puffy on Jul 19, 2018 17:48:52 GMT -5
My wife has become good friends with a widow lady neighbor of ours.She eats dinner with us quite often.Today she had her two grand kids with her.A boy 10,and a girl 8.Today before dinner I sat in my chair which is in the den and lit my pipe.The girl came in and saw me smoking my pipe.Then she said I'm allergic to smoke and left the room.Then she went and stood beside my wife who was at the stove frying hamburger.I guess that smoke didn't bother her.I know that some folks have breathing problems and shouldn't be around smoke.Believe this extremely active girl isn't one of them. I think she has been conditioned to believe that so called second hand smoke is something she should avoid at all cost..The anti's have launched a physiological campaign against us.If this 8 year old girl is an example it's working.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2018 17:57:07 GMT -5
Larry.....have a long talk with your wife, nothing like great communication between spouses. Just tell your wife...” due to health issues from now on we have a closed door policy “! That works every time, you should not feel uncomfortable in your own home. I wish you good luck 👌👍
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Post by Baboo on Jul 19, 2018 18:33:47 GMT -5
Just a thought: there may actually be something to the 2nd hand smoke bug-a-boo, besides the obvious lung irritation that many experience as do I. Acting on the side of caution, I, who live alone but for the blessed company of my cats, refrain from smoking in a closed door/windowed room so as to avoid my own 2nd hand smoke and asthma catalyst. Also, out of caution I give same consideration towards my little furry soulmates. Yes, it's MY home... and I want to do right by all.
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Post by Matthew on Jul 19, 2018 19:03:19 GMT -5
I somewhat agree with @lonecoyote , I wouldn't just
adopt a closed door.Your wife should inform her
friend tha since the child is allergic to second
hand smoke,she should not be brought over again.
It is very unfair and unreasonable to expect you
not to smoke your pipe in your own home.This isn't
the child's home and she should not be forced to be
around smoking,so it would be reasonable not to
bring the child over at all.If the neighbor has an
issue with that request she can write to "Dear Abby".
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Post by Baboo on Jul 19, 2018 19:26:57 GMT -5
I somewhat agree with @lonecoyote , I wouldn't just adopt a closed door.Your wife should inform her friend tha since the child is allergic to second hand smoke,she should not be brought over again. It is very unfair and unreasonable to expect you not to smoke your pipe in your own home.This isn't the child's home and she should not be forced to be around smoking,so it would be reasonable not to bring the child over at all.If the neighbor has an issue with that request she can write to "Dear Abby". I must agree while also seeming somewhat conflicted: it sounds like the neighbor and child have overreached their welcome, and imposed their own self-intetested idiosynchratic sensibilities on you, the host, to boot. I would suggest that if you are feeling pushed out of your own home comfort zone, bar the door ;-) In the alternative, if you choose to continue to indulge your guests intrusions, so be it. There's really no wrong answer... the choice is yours! :-) |
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Post by william on Jul 19, 2018 19:48:24 GMT -5
Dear  , dear , you have no complaint, You are who you are and you ain't who you ain't, So sit in your arm chair and puff on your smoke, No need to take crap from some idiot bloke. Signed, Dear Abby (with apologies to John Prine) |
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Post by Matthew on Jul 19, 2018 20:32:26 GMT -5
I somewhat agree with @lonecoyote , I wouldn't just adopt a closed door.Your wife should inform her friend tha since the child is allergic to second hand smoke,she should not be brought over again. It is very unfair and unreasonable to expect you not to smoke your pipe in your own home.This isn't the child's home and she should not be forced to be around smoking,so it would be reasonable not to bring the child over at all.If the neighbor has an issue with that request she can write to "Dear Abby". I must agree while also seeming somewhat conflicted: it sounds like the neighbor and child have overreached their welcome, and imposed their own self-intetested idiosynchratic sensibilities on you, the host, to boot. I would suggest that if you are feeling pushed out of your own home comfort zone, bar the door ;-) In the alternative, if you choose to continue to indulge your guests intrusions, so be it. There's really no wrong answer... the choice is yours! :-) I don't quite understand why you are conflicted.If you believe the information as to second hand smoke than you have to accept that some are more susceptible than others.Now it seems clear that @ is agreeable to the neighbor coming over for dinner,and in my opinion this is understandable due to wanting his wife to be happy.He didn't even seem irritated at the "Guest" bringing their own "Guests". He did express a discomfort with the child stating a medical condition that was suspect due to her following actions.It made it appear that she,the child,was parroting some inane nonsense either from her parents or her school.Now rather than interfere with her parents,school, or sensibilities,while also striving to remain in good graces with his wife, has to find a solution that portrays his as the reasonable one. The widow neighbor is welcome,but her grandchildren are not. |
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Post by radioguy on Jul 19, 2018 20:38:26 GMT -5
It’s your home. How much are you willing to surrender for their friendship? IMHO no one should have to change their lifestyle to suit someone else. A slippery slope. Talk it over with the wife. Is there a compromise stand you are comfortable with? I would never presume to go into someone else’s house and tell them how to live.
Eggshells are mighty uncomfortable.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2018 20:53:19 GMT -5
The only “ real “ solution, the widow neighbor visits with both you and your wife, have an enjoyable dinner together. After dinner you relax where your comfortable and enjoy your pipe. Absolutely, positively no grandchildren. Your wife can explain the situation with the widow in a proper manner, I’m sure from there it will be more comfortable for all involved.
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Post by Pistol Pete 1911 on Jul 19, 2018 21:02:31 GMT -5
I must agree while also seeming somewhat conflicted: it sounds like the neighbor and child have overreached their welcome, and imposed their own self-intetested idiosynchratic sensibilities on you, the host, to boot. I would suggest that if you are feeling pushed out of your own home comfort zone, bar the door ;-) In the alternative, if you choose to continue to indulge your guests intrusions, so be it. There's really no wrong answer... the choice is yours! :-)
information as to second hand smoke than you have to accept that some
are more susceptible than others.Now it seems clear that @ is
agreeable to the neighbor coming over for dinner,and in my opinion
this is understandable due to wanting his wife to be happy.He didn't
even seem irritated at the "Guest" bringing their own "Guests".
He did express a discomfort with the child stating a medical condition
that was suspect due to her following actions.It made it appear that
she,the child,was parroting some inane nonsense either from her
parents or her school.Now rather than interfere with her parents,school,
or sensibilities,while also striving to remain in good graces with his wife,
has to find a solution that portrays his as the reasonable one. The widow neighbor is welcome,but her grandchildren are not. I agree 100%. I don't think a person should have to give liberties in his own home, but I also look for a path of least resistance. If it makes Theo Happy that the neighbors show up with children and they object to pipe smoke or any other smoke for that matter I choose to either not smoke around them or to retreat to my shop. I like to be happy and after a life time of doing what I wanted to do no matter what the cost I have eased into a more mellow easy and simplistic lifestyle and EVERY relationship I have has improved because of that decision. |
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Post by Baboo on Jul 19, 2018 21:03:22 GMT -5
I must agree while also seeming somewhat conflicted: it sounds like the neighbor and child have overreached their welcome, and imposed their own self-intetested idiosynchratic sensibilities on you, the host, to boot. I would suggest that if you are feeling pushed out of your own home comfort zone, bar the door ;-) In the alternative, if you choose to continue to indulge your guests intrusions, so be it. There's really no wrong answer... the choice is yours! :-) I don't quite understand why you are conflicted.If you believe the information as to second hand smoke than you have to accept that some are more susceptible than others.Now it seems clear that @ is agreeable to the neighbor coming over for dinner,and in my opinion this is understandable due to wanting his wife to be happy.He didn't even seem irritated at the "Guest" bringing their own "Guests". He did express a discomfort with the child stating a medical condition that was suspect due to her following actions.It made it appear that she,the child,was parroting some inane nonsense either from her parents or her school.Now rather than interfere with her parents,school, or sensibilities,while also striving to remain in good graces with his wife, has to find a solution that portrays his as the reasonable one. The widow neighbor is welcome,but her grandchildren are not. @matthew ...I appreciate your greatly detailed personal insight into the original post and critique of my generic prescription (though my presumptions and interpretation of the OP as read/misread between the lines differ greatly from yours). I approached the stated conundrum with a much more general view, and offered advice in broad strokes with a wide brush... a one size fits all or many, as it were, tailored to be of help to a wider audience. Perhaps I should have remained silent. Admittedly, Dear Abbey I ain't. |
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Post by Matthew on Jul 19, 2018 21:59:40 GMT -5
I don't quite understand why you are conflicted.If you believe the information as to second hand smoke than you have to accept that some are more susceptible than others.Now it seems clear that @ is agreeable to the neighbor coming over for dinner,and in my opinion this is understandable due to wanting his wife to be happy.He didn't even seem irritated at the "Guest" bringing their own "Guests". He did express a discomfort with the child stating a medical condition that was suspect due to her following actions.It made it appear that she,the child,was parroting some inane nonsense either from her parents or her school.Now rather than interfere with her parents,school, or sensibilities,while also striving to remain in good graces with his wife, has to find a solution that portrays his as the reasonable one. The widow neighbor is welcome,but her grandchildren are not. @matthew ...I appreciate your greatly detailed personal insight into the original post and critique of my generic antidote (though my presumptions and interpretation of the OP as read between the lines differ greatly from yours). I approached the stated conundrum with a much more general view, and prescribed advice in broad strokes with a wide brush... a one size fits all or many, as it were, tailored to be of help to a wider audience. Perhaps I should have remained silent. Admittedly, Dear Abbey I ain't. Au Contraire,,Your opinions,advise,and council are quite valid and of immense value.I was not contradicting you,nor challenging the science that promotes healthy breathing.On the other hand what I read of the OP was a dissatisfaction of our children being taught a pseudoscience. Not having a degree or medical training,I'm in no position no argue for or against those who teach that second hand smoke is as or more dangerous than first hand smoke.That this child was brought as a guest and then stated a medical condition that would prevent me from enjoying my own residense is an unreasonable affront to my rights as a homeowner and in order to preserve the relationship between my wife and I,I feel it is thewife's responsibility to inform her friend that her grandchild unintentionall insulted her husband and that it would be best if they were not to interact. Now,if I had been consulted prior to the child coming over,also to any allergies that might confilct with my hobby.I could easily make the choice to abstain for a few hours for her comfort.If this neighbor has been over several times before,she knew that smokes a pipe, and she should be aware of any allergies that her GC have.She should have made prior knowledge available to and his wife in order that they could choose a proper course for the evening. I do applaud you Baboo,in that you have inspired me to resond to a question on SHS,I being a cigarette smoker since 1976 tend to stay out of said discussions since I am the ultimate Villain. |
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Post by trailboss on Jul 20, 2018 0:16:00 GMT -5
I would have never dreamed of telling an adult anything of the sort when I was a kid.
If anything, the kid should have told her mom privately, and mom should have dealt with it privately with the daughter, and accommodated her wishes if the mother thought there was merit to her complaint.
Kids should be outside anyway during the summer...I was hardly ever indoors during the summers.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2018 4:12:09 GMT -5
I would have never dreamed of telling an adult anything of the sort when I was a kid. If anything, the kid should have told her mom privately, and mom should have dealt with it privately with the daughter, and accommodated her wishes if the mother thought there was merit to her complaint. Kids should be outside anyway during the summer...I was hardly ever indoors during the summers. Signed.. Dear Crabby. Dear Crabby. They are only young children, also known as “ parrots “ that repeat what ever they hear. This $hit would not “ fly “ when I was a child. We were taught to always respect your elders, “ you never question an adult, you listen and learn, keep your mouth shut “! That was my Dad, the US Marine speaking, it was his way or no way!! Plus he only said it once, not like the way children are brought up today. Where did the family unit go, it’s gone forever, oh...they are all in the same room texting on their mobile devices! Growing up I had a baseball glove, bat and ball for playing games outdoors in Spring & Summer, a football for the Winter. Even in cold weather children would be outside playing bundled up properly, especially playing in the snow, where available....lol. Only time we were not outdoors was when it rained. Couldn’t wait to get home from school so we can go outside and play. Today’s child comes home and “ bitches, where’s my snack, it’s not ready, where’s my cold drink “! Everything is handed to them on a “ gold platter “, JMHO. What chores do children have today, none. If my Dad came home from work and the garbage pails were not brought up from the street there would be hell to pay. Today’s child will walk right past them and their parents get them! Today’s child is brought up completely different, they stay in their room playing some type of electronic game or on their mobile device. I can’t remember the last time I saw children playing outdoors, it’s as rare as seeing a pipe smoker walking in the neighborhood. Signed by, Lazy parenthood |
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Post by Pistol Pete 1911 on Jul 20, 2018 7:57:57 GMT -5
I would have never dreamed of telling an adult anything of the sort when I was a kid. If anything, the kid should have told her mom privately, and mom should have dealt with it privately with the daughter, and accommodated her wishes if the mother thought there was merit to her complaint. Kids should be outside anyway during the summer...I was hardly ever indoors during the summers. Signed.. Dear Crabby. Dear Crabby. They are only young children, also known as “ parrots “ that repeat what ever they hear. This $hit would not “ fly “ when I was a child. We were taught to always respect your elders, “ you never question an adult, you listen and learn, keep your mouth shut “! That was my Dad, the US Marine speaking, it was his way or no way!! Plus he only said it once, not like the way children are brought up today. Where did the family unit go, it’s gone forever, oh...they are all in the same room texting on their mobile devices! Growing up I had a baseball glove, bat and ball for playing games outdoors in Spring & Summer, a football for the Winter. Even in cold weather children would be outside playing bundled up properly, especially playing in the snow, where available....lol. Only time we were not outdoors was when it rained. Couldn’t wait to get home from school so we can go outside and play. Today’s child comes home and “ bitches, where’s my snack, it’s not ready, where’s my cold drink “! Everything is handed to them on a “ gold platter “, JMHO. What chores do children have today, none. If my Dad came home from work and the garbage pails were not brought up from the street there would be hell to pay. Today’s child will walk right past them and their parents get them! Today’s child is brought up completely different, they stay in their room playing some type of electronic game or on their mobile device. I can’t remember the last time I saw children playing outdoors, it’s as rare as seeing a pipe smoker walking in the neighborhood. Signed by, Lazy parenthood I have observed this Hipster, Millenial, butt hurt, hand out, everyones special, Socialist world we live in for a few short years. Society just keeps getting worse. Theo keeps telling me that you can't expect people to change, so I don't! I Hold myself to a higher standard. If I see someone being a typical "TODAY" person then I have the option to leave or accept the "TODAY" persons behavior, it depends on my mood. The child in this situation is repeating what has been drilled into her head, she really has no idea if she allergic to tobacco smoke or any type of smoke for that matter. And you can't really blame the child for " Today’s child comes home and “ bitches, where’s my snack, it’s not ready, where’s my cold drink “! Everything is handed to them on a “ gold platter “, JMHO. What chores do children have today, none. If my Dad came home from work and the garbage pails were not brought up from the street there would be hell to pay. Today’s child will walk right past them and their parents get them!" We will never change this generation and it will never go back to "the good ole days" The best we can hope for is that the children of today will pick and choose their values more carefully than their parents and will learn from the fine example that you fine folks have set. And if that don't work all Y'all can come to my house and we will cram into my wood shop and smoke all we can handle! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2018 8:32:35 GMT -5
P U F F Y , it’s amazing what a small rant can turn into👍 Hopefully some of the MILLENNIAL generation that can read without texting constantly notices this RANT. |
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Post by Cramptholomew on Jul 20, 2018 8:52:45 GMT -5
As a father of young children, I have to say it's a difficult job instilling respect and reverance. I insist that my nephews call me "uncle", and my wife "aunt", when they're conditioned to call every other adult by their first name. I find that appalling. When my kids see and hear other kids treating adults as their equals on a daily basis, it's an ongoing fight to keep them in line with what we prescribe as appropriate behavior. I'm no millennial, but I am Gen X. My wife is a lot younger, but she was also brought up to "know her place" as a child. All I can promise is that I will hold my children to a higher standard than most, when it comes to appropriate behavior, and correct them immediately if and when they fall short. But, if my wife and I aren't around, I can't 100% guarantee that they wouldn't slip up, and call you "poop" if they feel comfortable enough. I'm doing my best, though.
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Post by oldcajun123 on Jul 20, 2018 9:59:48 GMT -5
 My 2 cents, when the little girl told me about the smoke, Mom and her, also brother would have been escorted out the house. Period. My House my Rules. Let me clarify I had an older boy, twins Boy and a girl 2 yrs earlier. I was the guy who they dared not disrespect , but I respected them back. When they were teenagers we had a very large swimming pool, my kids had their friends over all the time. If I would had been a total shite they wouldn't have come would they. Nowadays I would be put in jail because I let them do moderate drinking at the pool, but I had a rule, you drink you stay overnight at my house, the warmest compliment was about 10 yrs after my children graduated, my wife visiting friends in Baton Rouge ran into a young man who said Miss Billie every time I think of home I think of you all. You can be tough without bein a shite.
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Post by Florida on Jul 20, 2018 10:16:31 GMT -5
I'm a blunt kind of guy. I would have immediately walked inside up to the aunt (puffing away) and said that the child told me she is "allergic" to smoke and perhaps you should take the child home and walked away.
The child is brain-washed.
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Post by Pistol Pete 1911 on Jul 20, 2018 10:20:32 GMT -5
I agree with a swift response to unsavory behavior however you can correct a Childs actions without embarrassing him/her. I'm not casting aspersions on anyones parenting skills I'm just sayin! I also don't believe in whacking a child in public or private. I know the damage this can cause on a personal level. My beliefs is that if you treat them with respect and discipline they will learn values and respect. JMHO.
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Post by driftingfate on Jul 20, 2018 11:22:37 GMT -5
As a father of young children, I have to say it's a difficult job instilling respect and reverance. I insist that my nephews call me "uncle", and my wife "aunt", when they're conditioned to call every other adult by their first name. I find that appalling. When my kids see and hear other kids treating adults as their equals on a daily basis, it's an ongoing fight to keep them in line with what we prescribe as appropriate behavior. I'm no millennial, but I am Gen X. My wife is a lot younger, but she was also brought up to "know her place" as a child. All I can promise is that I will hold my children to a higher standard than most, when it comes to appropriate behavior, and correct them immediately if and when they fall short. But, if my wife and I aren't around, I can't 100% guarantee that they wouldn't slip up, and call you "poop" if they feel comfortable enough. I'm doing my best, though. Thank you for the hard work of raising your children with respect for their elders, I'm certain it isn't easy in this day and age, as you note. Your post makes me think about people who use, "I'm doing my best" as a cop-out (which you are not). Rather, like you are doing, "my best" needs to be combined with the best goals. Simply to say "my best" means nothing if it's not accompanied with the proper mindset and goals. So, again, thanks for doing one of the most important jobs out there - being a good parent. |
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Post by Legend Lover on Jul 20, 2018 13:45:07 GMT -5
Question...how often does this widow bring her grandkids over to your place? Is this the first time? The child may well have been allergic to smoke, but it seems like she was making a point (especially given that she stood beside smoke straight after). If she was making a point then I agree, she is being rude and obnoxious. However, here's MY opinion, to throw something different into the mix - but once again It's MY opinion... What your wife is doing is admirable - befriending a widow who perhaps could do with the befriending. And so, in keeping with the spirit of what your wife is trying to do, is it beyond reason to not smoke when this lady brings her grandchildren over? Especially if it's not that frequent? Or even close a door or smoke outside? I understand that it's your house and you should be able to do damn well what you please in your own house. I agree with that. But I've found that sometimes sacrificing what I like to do to for the sake of my wife works out better for both parties in the long run. Plus, I might get some  If these children aren't over that often then it might not be that big a deal. But I'm not seeing the full picture here - there may be more going on that would alter my response. Just an observation though. I hope I caused no offence by what I've written. If so, it was not intentional and I profusely apologise. |
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Post by pepesdad1 on Jul 20, 2018 14:20:59 GMT -5
Your home, your castle. Discuss it with your wife, but...refer to the first four words.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2018 14:55:14 GMT -5
Hopefully not what I got back in the early 70’s when I was a young pup......lol
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Post by AJ on Jul 20, 2018 15:16:24 GMT -5
My family, friends, and neighbors all know I smoke a pipe and I smoke in my home and car. If any come for a visit it’s known that there’s a good chance I’ll be smoking during their visit. It is, after all, my home. I don’t smoke in anyone else’s home or car unless invited to do so. While visiting others I will ask if they mind if I step outside to smoke. Most of the time my host will join me outside on their porch, deck, yard, or in their swing. I’ve never been asked not to smoke outside their home.
In regards to the OP’s rant: The neighbor should have never brought anyone with them to your house without first clearing it with you. If she was aware of her grand daughter’s medical affliction then she should not have brought her to your home knowing you smoke. It was rude and unconscionable that she allowed her grand daughter to put you I’ll at ease in your own home. Why the child made the remark is irrelevant. You must discuss this with your wife and insist she tell the neighbor not to bring her grandchildren to your home. I’m sure she can do it tactfully.
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Post by Pistol Pete 1911 on Jul 20, 2018 19:48:02 GMT -5
My family, friends, and neighbors all know I smoke a pipe and I smoke in my home and car. If any come for a visit it’s known that there’s a good chance I’ll be smoking during their visit. It is, after all, my home. I don’t smoke in anyone else’s home or car unless invited to do so. While visiting others I will ask if they mind if I step outside to smoke. Most of the time my host will join me outside on their porch, deck, yard, or in their swing. I’ve never been asked not to smoke outside their home. In regards to the OP’s rant: The neighbor should have never brought anyone with them to your house without first clearing it with you. If she was aware of her grand daughter’s medical affliction then she should not have brought her to your home knowing you smoke. It was rude and unconscionable that she allowed her grand daughter to put you I’ll at ease in your own home. Why the child made the remark is irrelevant. You must discuss this with your wife and insist she tell the neighbor not to bring her grandchildren to your home. I’m sure she can do it tactfully. AJ WHY, WHY, WHY? AJ by know means am I trying to piss you off. Everyone and I mean everyone has been in a situation where they have made somebody else uncomfortable, be it gay rights, fracking, democrat or republican, mayo or mustard, who really gives a shite, 6 to 1 half dozen to another. Do what you feel is best in the situation at the time. If you (and I'm not picking on you AJ) want to piss off the wife by all means do so!!! Its easy! So decide and it will work out for the best, do what you gotta do. All I know is that when I started being considerate off my fellow man my life got exponentially better. So what if I can't smoke in my recliner for an hour, Did it kill me ? I'm guessing not! but what it did do is not make me look like an asshole to all the people involved, instead I look like the loving grandpa hero that I am. everybody wins as far as I'm concerned . What we have here is a question of humanity and only you know the answer! |
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Post by AJ on Jul 20, 2018 20:24:26 GMT -5
My family, friends, and neighbors all know I smoke a pipe and I smoke in my home and car. If any come for a visit it’s known that there’s a good chance I’ll be smoking during their visit. It is, after all, my home. I don’t smoke in anyone else’s home or car unless invited to do so. While visiting others I will ask if they mind if I step outside to smoke. Most of the time my host will join me outside on their porch, deck, yard, or in their swing. I’ve never been asked not to smoke outside their home. In regards to the OP’s rant: The neighbor should have never brought anyone with them to your house without first clearing it with you. If she was aware of her grand daughter’s medical affliction then she should not have brought her to your home knowing you smoke. It was rude and unconscionable that she allowed her grand daughter to put you I’ll at ease in your own home. Why the child made the remark is irrelevant. You must discuss this with your wife and insist she tell the neighbor not to bring her grandchildren to your home. I’m sure she can do it tactfully. AJ WHY, WHY, WHY? AJ by know means am I trying to piss you off. Everyone and I mean everyone has been in a situation where they have made somebody else uncomfortable, be it gay rights, fracking, democrat or republican, mayo or mustard, who really gives a shite, 6 to 1 half dozen to another. Do what you feel is best in the situation at the time. If you (and I'm not picking on you AJ) want to piss off the wife by all means do so!!! Its easy! So decide and it will work out for the best, do what you gotta do. All I know is that when I started being considerate off my fellow man my life got exponentially better. So what if I can't smoke in my recliner for an hour, Did it kill me ? I'm guessing not! but what it did do is not make me look like an asshole to all the people involved, instead I look like the loving grandpa hero that I am. everybody wins as far as I'm concerned . What we have here is a question of humanity and only you know the answer! Hey wait! No way am I angered by anything posted in this thread and I sincerely apologize if my comments lead anyone to believe I am angry. I was stating how things are at my home and how I do things. My comments about your “rant” was my opinion about what happened and my opinion on how one should handle this type of situation. I did not intend to offend you or anyone else on this forum. However I do stand by my comments because it’s what I believe and the way I live. AJ |
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Post by peterd-Buffalo Spirit on Jul 20, 2018 20:51:57 GMT -5
… some of the responses I've read appear to be politically correct...therein lies my issues...I despise political correctness...I say what I mean, and mean what I say...goes for issues in the home as well...my home...my castle, my rules...my 6 sons and their families all understand this.
I've been smoking a pipe now for 58 years...I am not eager to hurt anyone's feelings or create health issues for anyone...like AJ...its the way I live...
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Post by Baboo on Jul 20, 2018 21:02:55 GMT -5
Give the visiting grandma a lit cigar and the grandkid a pack of matches on their next dinner visit... see where it goes from there... take the wife out for a week of fancy restaurant dinners and the homestead dinner guest habit might whither. Invite selves to neighbor granny's house nightly for dinner - just show up with big appetites and smoldering pipe in mouth... all problems will shake out - Guaranteed!
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Post by AJ on Jul 20, 2018 21:14:48 GMT -5
Give the visiting grandma a lit cigar and the the grandkid a pack of matches on their next dinner visit... see where it goes from there... take the wife out for a week of fancy restaurant dinners and the homestead dinner guest habit might whither. Invite selves to neighbor granny's house nightly for dinner - just show up with big appetites and smoldering pipe in mouth... all problems will shake out - Guaranteed!  AJ |
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My 2 cents, when the little girl told me about the smoke, Mom and her, also brother would have been escorted out the house. Period. My House my Rules. Let me clarify I had an older boy, twins Boy and a girl 2 yrs earlier. I was the guy who they dared not disrespect , but I respected them back. When they were teenagers we had a very large swimming pool, my kids had their friends over all the time. If I would had been a total shite they wouldn't have come would they. Nowadays I would be put in jail because I let them do moderate drinking at the pool, but I had a rule, you drink you stay overnight at my house, the warmest compliment was about 10 yrs after my children graduated, my wife visiting friends in Baton Rouge ran into a young man who said Miss Billie every time I think of home I think of you all. You can be tough without bein a shite.
