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Post by kb7get on Jul 20, 2018 15:44:47 GMT -5
I watch this every year. It will be streaming live at www.eaa.org/en/airventure. Planes are starting to arrive now. Worth reading all the info on the posted link. The afternoon then night air shows are a blast to watch.
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Post by simnettpratt on Jul 20, 2018 16:16:44 GMT -5
My favorite is the tips for the spacing on the VFR arrival. We want to see this, not this, or this, and definitely not this. That's 90 knots; not 95, or 87. 90. Another thing I liked was, if you're one of these (can't remember what the plane type was, canard maybe?), you're going to get misidentified as this, just go with it and don't worry. Read the NOTAM. Thanks for the link.
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Post by Legend Lover on Jul 20, 2018 16:38:45 GMT -5
Thanks for the link.
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Post by daveinlax on Jul 20, 2018 18:51:43 GMT -5
We get formations that fly low and slow in, out and over lse. When we were young we went to the show a couple of times via motorcycle camping weekend. Without a member$hip you are limited. Our Uncle is a retired USAF General and plane owner into his mid 80's who would camp under his wing all week. I think it was The Concorde that was featured last time we were there.
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Post by unknownpipesmoker on Jul 20, 2018 18:58:50 GMT -5
I know this is a civilian show, but when I was enlisted at a Naval Air Station everyone in uniform dreaded these things. I say this from a position of anonymity (and no longer active duty). If I got caught saying this to the public while I was still in uniform, my head would have been on the chopping block! But really, everyone and their uncle tom on base, walking around, it was a nightmare. We were all working 12-15 hour days for these things and it always seemed to be 100 degrees outside. They were (and are) great fun for the public, though.
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Post by AJ on Jul 20, 2018 21:22:06 GMT -5
Thanks for the link. Wish I could attend the show.
AJ
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Post by simnettpratt on Jul 20, 2018 22:36:15 GMT -5
Sure, it's a pain to successfully land 10,000 airplanes in a dinky GA airfield, but so worth it. This year's modern military aircraft present are a B-1B, C-5M, C-17, A-10, E-4B, E/A18G, KC-135R, KC-10, HC-130N, F-5, F-15C, F-16C, F/A-18F, B-52, F-22, F-35, AH-64, MH-47, HH-60G, MH-60T, MH-65D, and a C-12F. That's just the modern military stuff. This year celebrates the 100th anniversary of the RAF, so you'll also get to see a Sopwith Pup, a Spit Mk IX, a deHavilland Mosquito, and others. And it's year of the tanker, so you get modern refueling tankers, like the KC-135 mentioned above. There's experimental planes, fireworks, barnstormers, skydiving, theater, just all kinds of goody goodness. It's the biggest aviation event in the world, a bucket list item for pilots.
If you're interested in aviation at all, read the NOTAM (notice to airmen). Most NOTAMs are one or two sentences; this one's 32 pages. You are strongly advised to memorize it, and write down the bits you will need to instantly produce while you're in the air. Here's the link to the 2018 NOTAM pdf:
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Post by slowroll on Jul 21, 2018 18:38:48 GMT -5
It is a great show, unfortunately my airplane murders my back on long flights, so I don't go since it's about an 11 hour flight. I go to closer warbird shows.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jul 21, 2018 19:52:45 GMT -5
Plane just crashed in Austin. I'm not an expert, but it looked similar to a DC 3. Looked like pilot error, but I don't know. Everyone got out, but 1 was badly burned. I was thinking that it might have been headed to Oshkosh. It was a propeller plane with an Air Force star.
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Post by bonanzadriver on Jul 21, 2018 20:24:58 GMT -5
Oshkosh has been on my bucket list since I became a pilot back in 1990.
I've been to Sun n Fun a few times.
Hope to get to Oshkosh soon.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jul 21, 2018 20:39:59 GMT -5
Plane just crashed in Austin. I'm not an expert, but it looked similar to a DC 3. Looked like pilot error, but I don't know. Everyone got out, but 1 was badly burned. I was thinking that it might have been headed to Oshkosh. It was a propeller plane with an Air Force star. C-47.
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Post by slowroll on Jul 21, 2018 22:07:57 GMT -5
Plane just crashed in Austin. I'm not an expert, but it looked similar to a DC 3. Looked like pilot error, but I don't know. Everyone got out, but 1 was badly burned. I was thinking that it might have been headed to Oshkosh. It was a propeller plane with an Air Force star. C-47. Sorry to hear that.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jul 21, 2018 22:19:12 GMT -5
Could be worse. It looks like the burn victim will be OK. Lost another Warbird that was living on borrowed time anyway.
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Post by trailboss on Jul 22, 2018 0:54:28 GMT -5
This was quite a story, in case you have never seen it, I will refrain from telling the story. When I lived in California, a buddy was a crew chief on an Apache that was part of the NASA program at Moffet Field NAS, he had the keys to the place and I would roam in there after hours next to the U2, and all other kinds of specialized aircraft...that was pretty cool. Living here in Arizona, down in Tucson has quite a museum for the aero-inclined to see.... www.pimaair.org/Falcon field is near my house where the Commemorative air force regularly flies the B-!7 for people willing to poy up for the ride...I love hearing that warbird fly over, there is nothing like the sound of them old engines. commemorativeairforce.org/
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Post by slowroll on Jul 22, 2018 8:26:46 GMT -5
Charlie, i've read tons of magazine article over the years about Pima, fabulous place. And, nothing like the sound of a radial engine starting up, popping, gurgling, banging and great gales of smoke. After 40 years, I still love the sound of mine, even though it's a small one compared to those on the B-17. Even the routine required to start one (sometimes requiring 3 hands) is magic.
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Post by toshtego on Jul 23, 2018 4:26:48 GMT -5
Charlie, i've read tons of magazine article over the years about Pima, fabulous place. And, nothing like the sound of a radial engine starting up, popping, gurgling, banging and great gales of smoke. After 40 years, I still love the sound of mine, even though it's a small one compared to those on the B-17. Even the routine required to start one (sometimes requiring 3 hands) is magic. Agree about the sound and fury of radials starting up. A big thrill for me was riding in a Lockheed Constellation in 1972. Still in commercial airline service- Iceland Air. I made certain my window seat was on the wing. That was some drama during start-up! Ditto DC-4's and -6s from my childhood. I'll never forget what a "bone-shaker" is like.
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Post by slowroll on Jul 23, 2018 6:49:48 GMT -5
Agree about the sound and fury of radials starting up. A big thrill for me was riding in a Lockheed Constellation in 1972. Still in commercial airline service- Iceland Air. I made certain my window seat was on the wing. That was some drama during start-up! Ditto DC-4's and -6s from my childhood. I'll never forget what a "bone-shaker" is like. Yes indeed, 28 cylinders with over 2500 HP belching oil and smoke on start-up is impressive! I must say, the most unique and distinctive sounding bird on start and idle is the B-25. Must be the way the exhaust system is designed, giving all that popping and burbling.
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Post by toshtego on Jul 24, 2018 6:35:50 GMT -5
Yes indeed, 28 cylinders with over 2500 HP belching oil and smoke on start-up is impressive! I must say, the most unique and distinctive sounding bird on start and idle is the B-25. Must be the way the exhaust system is designed, giving all that popping and burbling. Let's not omit the occasional flames coming from the exhaust ports. Very dramatic.
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