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Post by morallynomadic on Sept 12, 2018 13:02:14 GMT -5
like it was said in another thread... There are no rules. As long as you're enjoying your smokes, that's ultimately what counts. Still, why savage a poor defenseless pipe? What did it ever do to you but do its best to please you? We need to establish a halfway home for abused pipes. Personally, I smoke a pipe for flavor, so taking care of my pipes is part of the deal. But others just like to get a nicotine buzz. I worked with a guy who owned one pipe, a Peterson, that he smoked all day, every day, and had done at that point for 15 years. The pipe was black as pitch and you could smell it from a mile away, a kind of rank zombie vomit kind of smell, but he didn't care, it worked for him. I think for my father it's a byproduct of living up north in Minnesota.. It's really hard to safely smoke a pipe in -10 or -20 degree weather. I assume he eventually got tired of replacing pipes that cracked in the cold. So now if the crack doesn't run all the way through and it still holds tobacco, he'll smoke it. |
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Sept 12, 2018 18:24:18 GMT -5
I always thought the reason we thought "old pipes are better" was simple; the crap pipes produced back then have been long-ago trashed or modified to improve their smoking quality. With some exceptions, a pipe doesn't stick around for 70+ years if it's a crap smoker. Maybe, but then again, maybe not. Pipes used to be treated as disposable. The pipe cleaner wasn't invented until well into the 20th century. And even then, many people did not use them.
It's very possible that most of the "survivors" into the present era are pipes that sat in desks and presentation boxes, instead of being smoked daily.
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Sept 12, 2018 18:27:32 GMT -5
Ropp, Vermont Freehand, and a few others still sell pipes made of Algerian briar. I think a lot of Ropp's Algerian briar pipes are new-old-stock. The bowls were turned back in the 1970s, but went un-sold.
Seems like a win -- you know those pipes are fully, totally cured after 40 years in a warehouse.
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Post by LSUTigersFan on Sept 12, 2018 20:09:54 GMT -5
I always thought the reason we thought "old pipes are better" was simple; the crap pipes produced back then have been long-ago trashed or modified to improve their smoking quality. With some exceptions, a pipe doesn't stick around for 70+ years if it's a crap smoker. Maybe, but then again, maybe not. Pipes used to be treated as disposable. The pipe cleaner wasn't invented until well into the 20th century. And even then, many people did not use them.
It's very possible that most of the "survivors" into the present era are pipes that sat in desks and presentation boxes, instead of being smoked daily.
Remember, every time an old piped is smoke, an angel gets a new harp!! |
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Post by morallynomadic on Sept 13, 2018 9:01:11 GMT -5
Maybe, but then again, maybe not. Pipes used to be treated as disposable. The pipe cleaner wasn't invented until well into the 20th century. And even then, many people did not use them.
It's very possible that most of the "survivors" into the present era are pipes that sat in desks and presentation boxes, instead of being smoked daily.
Remember, every time an old piped is smoke, an angel gets a new harp!! Jiminks is making it rain in heaven. |
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Post by Legend Lover on Sept 13, 2018 9:18:28 GMT -5
Remember, every time an old piped is smoke, an angel gets a new harp!! Jiminks is making it rain in heaven. 😂😂 I'd say heaven is a big place, but I'm not sure there's enough space for all those harps. |
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Post by oldbriarpipes on Nov 26, 2018 13:56:12 GMT -5
Have any of you all ever found unsmoked pipes from the 30s to 60s or even older? From time to time I find some, all of then have a white "dried sappy" dust/substance inside the bowls and shanks. I guess the years of extra "air curing" pushes some of the oils out of the briar. Some companies still speed up this process by oil curing the blocks of briar. Castello still oil cures and if I bought another pipe unsmoked it would be a Castello. The history is what draws me to old briar pipes though, I always think about what the pipe would say if it could talk... All my opinion based upon experience... ☺
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Nov 26, 2018 14:15:58 GMT -5
I have some unsmoked Wally Frank pipes from the 40s. I haven't found any white stuff on the inside.
(But I wouldn't be alarmed if I did! Weird stuff happens when you leave decades for it to occur.)
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Post by pepesdad1 on Nov 26, 2018 14:50:11 GMT -5
I'm sure Jesse is right...he usually is, but I find that the older pipes, are to me, better than the ones I find today...better style, better looking wood, better curing, better for me. In short the few Comoys I have left along with the GBDs and Edwards...these are my favorite pipes. They are old, just like me.
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Post by puffy on Nov 26, 2018 15:17:39 GMT -5
Any of you remember Moms Mabley .. She said the only old thing she wanted was some old money
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Post by pepesdad1 on Nov 26, 2018 15:27:47 GMT -5
As usual, Moms was right...crusty old gal, she was...most of the youngsters won't know who we are talking about.
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Post by LSUTigersFan on Nov 26, 2018 15:33:36 GMT -5
If you can locate a nice looking pipe from the 20’s to the late 60’s on eBay or an antique shop at a reasonable price...and you like the style...buy it 👍👍 I do  |
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Post by Ronv69 on Nov 26, 2018 16:07:53 GMT -5
I have a few pipes pushing 70 years, and one that just turned 120. That one had been lightly smoked, probably less than 10 bowls. I picked up a WDC NOS Wellington that was unsmoked that is around 70. Nothing to indicate how old it was except for the stem oxidation. I cleaned it up and it looked brand new. All my old pipes smoke great.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 17:51:20 GMT -5
I don’t own a Comoy’s that I’d part with, they smoke superbly👍👍 Ditto. Those who have smoked Family Era, pre-Cadogan, etc. old wood, preferably prior to 1968, know the difference and also know that there is a striking difference. Old wood looks like solid old furniture wood. Its nature and treatment allowed it to absorb the heat and condensation, and to impart an unequaled flavor to the smoking tobacco. Poems should be written to this, and poems have indeed been written. But imo there are no such muses among the currently available briar, with a few exceptions, and even these are not systematic but fortuitous. And that's all I have to say. I has spoken. |
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Post by trailboss on Nov 26, 2018 18:03:37 GMT -5
For longevity, Catlinite pipes beat em all, and it helps rid you of your pesky front teeth.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 18:03:42 GMT -5
Have any of you all ever found unsmoked pipes from the 30s to 60s or even older? From time to time I find some, all of then have a white "dried sappy" dust/substance inside the bowls and shanks. I guess the years of extra "air curing" pushes some of the oils out of the briar. Some companies still speed up this process by oil curing the blocks of briar. Castello still oil cures and if I bought another pipe unsmoked it would be a Castello. The history is what draws me to old briar pipes though, I always think about what the pipe would say if it could talk... All my opinion based upon experience... ☺ Keep your eyes open on eBay for Edwards or Comoy’s Pipes. I’ve purchased a couple either in NOS or pristine condition. I much prefer Algerian oil cured briar 👌👍👍. Happy hunting!! |
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Nov 27, 2018 0:45:17 GMT -5
I have a few pipes pushing 70 years, and one that just turned 120. That one had been lightly smoked, probably less than 10 bowls. I picked up a WDC NOS Wellington that was unsmoked that is around 70. Nothing to indicate how old it was except for the stem oxidation. I cleaned it up and it looked brand new. All my old pipes smoke great. Not to play light, but my favorite "britwood" pipe is a post-1980 GBD.
It looks like dogshit, but it smokes like a dream. I have two other instances of the exact same shape number, both with better-cut stums and fewer finishing issues -- and they just don't smoke as sweet.
I can't explain a g-d thing. It just is what it is. My ugliest GBD smokes the finest. All three have hand-cut stems, but one, the ugliest of the three, smokes a good bit sweeter than the other two.
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Nov 27, 2018 0:46:26 GMT -5
The pre-1980 GBDs have distinctly better hand-cut stems, but they don't smoke as sweet as their ugly cousin. I can't make heads or tails of it.
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Post by priest2705 on Dec 6, 2018 18:23:01 GMT -5
The pre-1980 GBDs have distinctly better hand-cut stems, but they don't smoke as sweet as their ugly cousin. I can't make heads or tails of it. I'm relatively new, so I can't comment on the Post-Cadogan GBD's. But I have a Pre-Cadogan GBD, and a Pre-Cadogan Digby, and they both smoke lovely, in my opinion. I have to force myself not to smoke them exclusively. I pretty much stay on eBay looking for more to buy after getting my hands on these 2 |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2018 20:23:49 GMT -5
The pre-1980 GBDs have distinctly better hand-cut stems, but they don't smoke as sweet as their ugly cousin. I can't make heads or tails of it. I'm relatively new, so I can't comment on the Post-Cadogan GBD's. But I have a Pre-Cadogan GBD, and a Pre-Cadogan Digby, and they both smoke lovely, in my opinion. I have to force myself not to smoke them exclusively. I pretty much stay on eBay looking for more to buy after getting my hands on these 2 I have three GBD Pedigrees and they're unequalled smokers. The non-Pedigree GBDs are also pre-1980 and also fine smokers. I even have a Made In France Fifth Avenue saucer shape (haven't seen any other pipe in that shape lately) that I bought new in 1978 and still smokes great. |
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Post by pepesdad1 on Dec 6, 2018 21:33:15 GMT -5
Just to throw some s**t in the game...I have or had 15 pipes that were made for me by a gentleman in London...Briar Spirit Pipes. Now the wood he got was for sure not real old wood...I don't know what his source was, but every single pipe he made without fail was and is a superb smoker...you can ask Drama or Josh as both have one of them...they are great smokers from the first day I smoked them...don't know why...I call it the heart he put into each pipe...I mean total love that went into each pipe...they smoke as good as my Comoys...don't have any clue as to why.
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