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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2018 13:56:40 GMT -5
Both AJ and myself smoked Balkan Sasieni from the same tin, we both noticed an odd chemical taste. Maybe from a bad batch???
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Post by Dramatwist on Aug 10, 2018 13:59:30 GMT -5
Both AJ and myself smoked Balkan Sasieni from the same tin, we both noticed an odd chemical taste. Maybe from a bad batch??? ...might it have been the preservatives?
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Post by slowroll on Aug 10, 2018 14:34:34 GMT -5
You know, if all you taste is smoke, you might as well buy the cheapest blend you can with a nice room note. True, but all blends are the same price here (give or take a few pennies) so I try something new every month in case I hit that golden blend. I've checked, but balkan supreme isn't available in the UK. Hey ho. Maybe in Northern Ireland you can get Stokebbye Balkan Supreme. Stokebbye makes it for Arango and it's the same thing. They don't sell it here because of the Arango deal.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2018 14:50:20 GMT -5
Both AJ and myself smoked Balkan Sasieni from the same tin, we both noticed an odd chemical taste. Maybe from a bad batch??? ...might it have been the preservatives? Very possible, AJ and I could not finish the bowl, it was that bad.
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 10, 2018 17:40:18 GMT -5
True, but all blends are the same price here (give or take a few pennies) so I try something new every month in case I hit that golden blend. I've checked, but balkan supreme isn't available in the UK. Hey ho. Maybe in Northern Ireland you can get Stokebbye Balkan Supreme. Stokebbye makes it for Arango and it's the same thing. They don't sell it here because of the Arango deal. Unfortunately not. I put on another thread that all the Stokebbye we get here is Kentucky Maroon and Virginia Special. Strange why we have 2 blends and not the whole array available.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2018 17:47:00 GMT -5
If you can get Balkan Sasieni it’s the same thing in a tin. I've read that before but I'm not so sure.... Is that on good authority? IMHO, Balkan Sasieni and Balkan Supreme are similar, but not the same. Sasieni is saltier and Supreme is sweeter and fuller, if memory serves. I much prefer Balkan Supreme.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2018 18:33:21 GMT -5
I've read that before but I'm not so sure.... Is that on good authority? IMHO, Balkan Sasieni and Balkan Supreme are similar, but not the same. Sasieni is saltier and Supreme is sweeter and fuller, if memory serves. I much prefer Balkan Supreme. I'd agree. Saltier, sharper, and maybe more of an incense-Oriental thing. I like it, too. Could be a difference in age, I guess.
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Post by Wolfman on Aug 11, 2018 13:47:57 GMT -5
Martin - I’ve become curious about this blend since you wrote about it the other day. What, if anything is it similar to ?
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Post by Dramatwist on Aug 11, 2018 13:57:48 GMT -5
Sam, PM me and I'll send you some. Don't know of anything close, except the original 759.
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Post by monbla256 on Aug 11, 2018 14:26:55 GMT -5
Martin - I’ve become curious about this blend since you wrote about it the other day. What, if anything is it similar to ? It's the closest thing to the old 759 you'll find. If you never smoked that you missed out on probably the finest Balkan ever made. It went away in the mid to late '80s. Try it it can spoil ya for Balkans. !
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Post by Wolfman on Aug 11, 2018 16:19:11 GMT -5
Thank you Dramatwist. monbla256 How do you think it compares to Black House ? I missed out on 759 🙁. I didn’t pick up the pipe until 1997.
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Post by slowroll on Aug 11, 2018 18:32:20 GMT -5
Thank you Dramatwist . monbla256 How do you think it compares to Black House ? I missed out on 759 🙁. I didn’t pick up the pipe until 1997. Monbla may have another opinion, but IMO Arango is closer to 759 than Blackhouse. I find Blackhouse to be a bit harsh and overdone.
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Post by monbla256 on Aug 11, 2018 18:42:00 GMT -5
Thank you Dramatwist . monbla256 How do you think it compares to Black House ? I missed out on 759 🙁. I didn’t pick up the pipe until 1997. Monbla may have another opinion, but IMO Arango is closer to 759 than Blackhouse. I find Blackhouse to be a bit harsh and overdone. For sure. The Arango is DEFENATELEY closer to the old 759 and much smoother and flavorful than Black House.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 20:21:07 GMT -5
The Arango is DEFENATELEY closer to the old 759 and much smoother and flavorful than Black House. I never had the opportunity to try 759 and haven't had Black House either, but prefer Balkan Supreme over Blue Mountain/Balkan Blue.
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Post by slowroll on Aug 11, 2018 22:50:10 GMT -5
The Arango is DEFENATELEY closer to the old 759 and much smoother and flavorful than Black House. I never had the opportunity to try 759 and haven't had Black House either, but prefer Balkan Supreme over Blue Mountain/Balkan Blue. So do I. White Knight is also very good, better than Blackhouse, but no bulk. 80 bucks a lb, it ain't that good.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 23:01:23 GMT -5
I never had the opportunity to try 759 and haven't had Black House either, but prefer Balkan Supreme over Blue Mountain/Balkan Blue. So do I. White Knight is also very good, better than Blackhouse, but no bulk. 80 bucks a lb, it ain't that good. There is a P&C bulk blend that Russ said is essentially the same as White Knight, but using less premium leaf. Can't recall the name, but it never sounded too inspiring to me.
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Post by slowroll on Aug 11, 2018 23:19:23 GMT -5
So do I. White Knight is also very good, better than Blackhouse, but no bulk. 80 bucks a lb, it ain't that good. There is a P&C bulk blend that Russ said is essentially the same as White Knight, but using less premium leaf. Can't recall the name, but it never sounded too inspiring to me. Yep, I tried it, it was so inspiring I forgot the name too. Arango definately better.
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Post by Wolfman on Aug 12, 2018 8:56:21 GMT -5
So do I. White Knight is also very good, better than Blackhouse, but no bulk. 80 bucks a lb, it ain't that good. There is a P&C bulk blend that Russ said is essentially the same as White Knight, but using less premium leaf. Can't recall the name, but it never sounded too inspiring to me. I think you’re referring to BSOSM Match. I can’t find it on P&C. There’s also a 759 Match he made. I found it here: www.tobaccopipes.com/tobacco-match-alternative/But it’s sold out. I would also check marscigars.com.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 9:22:14 GMT -5
I never had the opportunity to try 759 and haven't had Black House either, but prefer Balkan Supreme over Blue Mountain/Balkan Blue. So do I. White Knight is also very good, better than Blackhouse, but no bulk. 80 bucks a lb, it ain't that good. WhiteKnight & BlackHouse are both in the same ball field......BlackHouse being the stronger of the two. WhiteKnight is good any time of the day as I enjoy BlackHouse more towards the evening 👍
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2018 20:00:56 GMT -5
I'm smoking Supreme and Sasieni back-to-back and can say without a doubt that these are not the same blend. Well I do have one doubt - the Supreme I had was pretty well aged and I don't think the Sasieni was, so that could account for the differences.
Overall, Supreme is sweeter, softer, and heavier on the Lat. Sasieni is more astringent, sharper, spicer, and harsher. Young VAs, maybe? I like both but smoking them close together like this I realize I like Supreme so much more.
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Post by Wolfman on Aug 16, 2018 21:00:05 GMT -5
Thanks to Dramatwist , I’m now hooked on this blend. Fortunately, it’s in stock at smokingpipes.
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Post by Dramatwist on Aug 16, 2018 21:22:41 GMT -5
Thanks to Dramatwist , I’m now hooked on this blend. Fortunately, it’s in stock at smokingpipes. ...easy blend to get hooked on...
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Post by Dramatwist on Aug 16, 2018 23:31:42 GMT -5
Thanks to Dramatwist , I’m now hooked on this blend. Fortunately, it’s in stock at smokingpipes. *Might* be surpassing Penzance as my preferred smoke.
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 17, 2018 3:15:00 GMT -5
Thanks to Dramatwist , I’m now hooked on this blend. Fortunately, it’s in stock at smokingpipes. *Might* be surpassing Penzance as my preferred smoke. WOW. Thats quite something. Am I right?
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Post by Wolfman on Aug 17, 2018 7:28:57 GMT -5
Thanks to Dramatwist , I’m now hooked on this blend. Fortunately, it’s in stock at smokingpipes. *Might* be surpassing Penzance as my preferred smoke. That’s a bold statement Dramatwist. I think I may try them back to back today. I think I asked you already, is it better than BlackHouse (in your opinion) ? I need to open a tin of that and do some research.
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Post by Dramatwist on Aug 17, 2018 11:24:16 GMT -5
*Might* be surpassing Penzance as my preferred smoke. That’s a bold statement Dramatwist . I think I may try them back to back today. I think I asked you already, is it better than BlackHouse (in your opinion) ? I need to open a tin of that and do some research. ...I think it's better.
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Post by slowroll on Aug 17, 2018 12:07:59 GMT -5
That’s a bold statement Dramatwist . I think I may try them back to back today. I think I asked you already, is it better than BlackHouse (in your opinion) ? I need to open a tin of that and do some research. ...I think it's better. I do too.
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Post by That Falls Guy on Aug 17, 2018 15:15:33 GMT -5
I'm going to order more and hopefully (if I can) age it. I see a lot of age potential in this one.
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Post by Darin on Aug 17, 2018 15:17:26 GMT -5
I'm going to order more and hopefully (if I can) age it. I see a lot of age potential in this one. The 2013 batch I'm smoking is nice ... worth letting some dust settle. I sent some to don and maybe he can say how it compared to the newer stuff.
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Post by slowroll on Aug 17, 2018 15:30:22 GMT -5
I'll smoke it too fast to get much age on it! Unless of course I have another TAD relapse and buy 10 lbs.
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