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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 13, 2018 8:03:56 GMT -5
So I decided to chance my arm and order a tin of C&D Autumn Evening from SP. I've heard this is a nice blend so I thought I'd chance my arm and pay the customs fee (on $9 tobacco I didn't think it would be that much).
It came to $12 including delivery (cheapest delivery option). That was a few weeks ago.
I got a card through my door saying there's a parcel for me that is held in customs that needs a fee to be paid.
Guess how much the fee was....
$260
They can keep the freakin' tobacco!
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Post by McWiggins on Aug 13, 2018 8:10:37 GMT -5
I’m not trying to down your area of the world, let alone be political but its times like this that for a moment, I become a little less critical of my country. Even if it is trying to strangle freedom little by little.
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 13, 2018 8:18:18 GMT -5
I’m not trying to down your area of the world, let alone be political but its times like this that for a moment, I become a little less critical of my country. Even if it is trying to strangle freedom little by little. Sometimes, events like this put things in perspective. Not everything, but some things...
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Post by peteguy on Aug 13, 2018 8:19:36 GMT -5
What if someone, like me, sent it to you. Does customs still nail it?
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 13, 2018 8:22:56 GMT -5
What I don't understand is that a friend of mine, at the same time, bought 4 tins which came to £40 (about $50) and his customs duty was only £50 (about $64). I have not idea why mine was $260. I thought it was proportional to the price of the tobacco.
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 13, 2018 8:24:48 GMT -5
What if someone, like me, sent it to you. Does customs still nail it? Ahh, possibly. In fact, they probably would. But nobody knows my address except for @johnr who sent me a couple of tampers. A few people have already kindly offered to send me tobacco, but I've declined in case this happened.
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Post by briarbuck on Aug 13, 2018 8:38:53 GMT -5
Trying to get things into the EU is brutal from the US in general. Think the UK is bad? Try Spain or Italy sometime. FUBAR
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Post by antb on Aug 13, 2018 8:41:59 GMT -5
What if someone, like me, sent it to you. Does customs still nail it? For me, on the Dark Continent, a single tin, marked "Gift" may slip through once in a while. If not, I have to produce an official invoice on the letterhead of the tobacconist, stating the value.
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Post by sparks on Aug 13, 2018 8:43:18 GMT -5
I have heard all kinds of way's to avoid customs. Not that I want to get into that discussion on a public forum, but I think the only real way to avoid it is sending it as a gift, and still within the acceptable quantity.
Seems ridiculous that they were going to slap a $260 duty on one tin of tobacco. I would actually followup on that and find out if they made a mistake.
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 13, 2018 8:48:59 GMT -5
I have heard all kinds of way's to avoid customs. Not that I want to get into that discussion on a public forum, but I think the only real way to avoid it is sending it as a gift, and still within the acceptable quantity. Seems ridiculous that they were going to slap a $260 duty on one tin of tobacco. I would actually followup on that and find out if they made a mistake. I'm now wondering if perhaps someone has shipped something to me and it's coincided with my purchase of that tin of tobacco. If the tin comes through the door in the next few weeks then I'll know it's something else.
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Post by antb on Aug 13, 2018 8:51:25 GMT -5
So I decided to chance my arm and order a tin of C&D Autumn Evening from SP. I've heard this is a nice blend so I thought I'd chance my arm and pay the customs fee (on $9 tobacco I didn't think it would be that much). It came to $12 including delivery (cheapest delivery option). That was a few weeks ago. I got a card through my door saying there's a parcel for me that is held in customs that needs a fee to be paid. Guess how much the fee was.... $260 They can keep the freakin' tobacco! Bad luck, LL! To put things into perspective, here's what I paid my last order of 4lbs of tobacco shipped from the USA: 4 lbs of tobacco: $225 Shipping: $120 Import duty: $90 VAT: $34 Mystery charge: $19 Handling fee: $3 I paid the grand total of $491 gladly, because I really wanted the tobacco
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 13, 2018 9:32:25 GMT -5
I wish the card told me what exactly I'm being charged for...
Maybe a mystery friend has sent me a lifetime supply of tobacco, in which case that's a bargain.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 9:49:51 GMT -5
So I decided to chance my arm and order a tin of C&D Autumn Evening from SP. I've heard this is a nice blend so I thought I'd chance my arm and pay the customs fee (on $9 tobacco I didn't think it would be that much). It came to $12 including delivery (cheapest delivery option). That was a few weeks ago. I got a card through my door saying there's a parcel for me that is held in customs that needs a fee to be paid. Guess how much the fee was.... $260 They can keep the freakin' tobacco! Paddy, that was absolutely ludicrous and ridiculous at the same time!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 10:03:13 GMT -5
I wish the card told me what exactly I'm being charged for... Maybe a mystery friend has sent me a lifetime supply of tobacco, in which case that's a bargain. Did customs open the package? It’s possible an agent knows it’s pipe tobacco and will eventually be enjoying It himself!
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 13, 2018 10:04:54 GMT -5
So I decided to chance my arm and order a tin of C&D Autumn Evening from SP. I've heard this is a nice blend so I thought I'd chance my arm and pay the customs fee (on $9 tobacco I didn't think it would be that much). It came to $12 including delivery (cheapest delivery option). That was a few weeks ago. I got a card through my door saying there's a parcel for me that is held in customs that needs a fee to be paid. Guess how much the fee was.... $260 They can keep the freakin' tobacco! Just a suggestion. When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world. He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good. He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them. He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only. He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures. He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people. He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within. 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He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation: For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us: For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States: For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world: For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent: For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury: For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences: For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments: For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever. He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us. He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people. He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation. He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands. He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions. In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people. Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends. We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 13, 2018 10:07:41 GMT -5
We're working on a free trade agreement with the UK.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 10:21:09 GMT -5
We're working on a free trade agreement with the UK. Which in English translates to...some “phat cats “ will be getting their pockets stuffed with BIG BUCKS👍👍
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 13, 2018 10:23:21 GMT -5
We're working on a free trade agreement with the UK. I'll get the popcorn out and watch this one.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 10:25:33 GMT -5
We're working on a free trade agreement with the UK. I'll get the popcorn out and watch this one. Paddy, did the customs agent tell you the fee’s included a happy ending...lol
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Post by cappadoc on Aug 13, 2018 11:26:16 GMT -5
I'll get the popcorn out and watch this one. Paddy, did the customs agent tell you the fee’s included a happy ending...lol Probably just promised a sore backside from no lube.
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 13, 2018 11:58:25 GMT -5
Steady on...
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Post by trailboss on Aug 13, 2018 14:25:52 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 14:33:42 GMT -5
So I decided to chance my arm and order a tin of C&D Autumn Evening from SP. I've heard this is a nice blend so I thought I'd chance my arm and pay the customs fee (on $9 tobacco I didn't think it would be that much). It came to $12 including delivery (cheapest delivery option). That was a few weeks ago. I got a card through my door saying there's a parcel for me that is held in customs that needs a fee to be paid. Guess how much the fee was.... $260 They can keep the freakin' tobacco! Bad luck, LL! To put things into perspective, here's what I paid my last order of 4lbs of tobacco shipped from the USA: 4 lbs of tobacco: $225 Shipping: $120 Import duty: $90 VAT: $34 Mystery charge: $19 Handling fee: $3 I paid the grand total of $491 gladly, because I really wanted the tobacco I imagine you have to be very sure of tobaccos you like. Paying those prices makes trying something new, a risky proposition.
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Post by pepesdad1 on Aug 13, 2018 14:34:01 GMT -5
Guess I was lucky back a few years ago when I was sending a friend (in the UK) 5 pounds a month for several months. We had a deal where he would make me a pipe for a pound of his favorite blend. Got 16 pipes out of the deal. Today, I wouldn't chance it...too old to go to the slammer. Got some beautiful pipes however.
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Post by trailboss on Aug 13, 2018 14:35:07 GMT -5
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 13, 2018 14:57:30 GMT -5
Bad luck, LL! To put things into perspective, here's what I paid my last order of 4lbs of tobacco shipped from the USA: 4 lbs of tobacco: $225 Shipping: $120 Import duty: $90 VAT: $34 Mystery charge: $19 Handling fee: $3 I paid the grand total of $491 gladly, because I really wanted the tobacco I imagine you have to be very sure of tobaccos you like. Paying those prices makes trying something new, a risky proposition. It was a punt for less than a tenner. I'm not paying for the duty. It'll be returned or destroyed.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 15:00:40 GMT -5
I imagine you have to be very sure of tobaccos you like. Paying those prices makes trying something new, a risky proposition. It was a punt for less than a tenner. I'm not paying for the duty. It'll be returned or destroyed. My mistake. I was commenting on antb's order.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 15:01:21 GMT -5
Sure is, doesn’t make sense. Must have been another package. Never heard of customs from any Country charging such an exorbitant tax PLUS Vat fee!!! Most Countries do not charge a fee if the package is marked gift and you can prove it’s a gift for your Birthday or holiday.
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Post by slomo on Aug 13, 2018 15:39:32 GMT -5
Where is Kurt Vonnegut when you need him?
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Post by Florida on Aug 13, 2018 15:41:30 GMT -5
So I decided to chance my arm and order a tin of C&D Autumn Evening from SP. I've heard this is a nice blend so I thought I'd chance my arm and pay the customs fee (on $9 tobacco I didn't think it would be that much). It came to $12 including delivery (cheapest delivery option). That was a few weeks ago. I got a card through my door saying there's a parcel for me that is held in customs that needs a fee to be paid. Guess how much the fee was.... $260 They can keep the freakin' tobacco!
Call customs and tell them the actual value and you may have to show proof of purchase and a credit card receipt. Good luck
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