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Post by Darin on Sept 15, 2018 13:25:12 GMT -5
The word is out regarding this year's tobacco crops from my supplier (WLT.com): Add this to the already existing shortage, especially Red FCV, and it's not looking good.
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Post by Legend Lover on Sept 15, 2018 13:35:23 GMT -5
The word is out regarding this year's tobacco crops from my supplier (WLT.com): Add this to the already existing shortage, especially Red FCV, and it's not looking good. sad times.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2018 13:44:49 GMT -5
Close to 300 Million Dollars loss of tobacco crops here in NC alone. Cotton and sweet potato crops are under water as well. The Department of Agriculture of NC will release the total loss of crops in NC mid week, after the flooding dissipates.
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Post by Quintsrevenge on Sept 15, 2018 14:01:12 GMT -5
Not good , looks like tobacco industry is in for a fun time. I lived in Connecticut and they grow tobacco there but for cigars , I have never seen anything say Connecticut leaf in the pipe side of tobacco. Am I wrong to say its not the same type ?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2018 14:14:59 GMT -5
Not good , looks like tobacco industry is in for a fun time. I lived in Connecticut and they grow tobacco there but for cigars , I have never seen anything say Connecticut leaf in the pipe side of tobacco. Am I wrong to say its not the same type ? The Connecticut leaf is some of the finest used on the outer wrapper of a fine cigar. Superb tobacco leaf 👍👍
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Post by Quintsrevenge on Sept 15, 2018 14:19:46 GMT -5
Not good , looks like tobacco industry is in for a fun time. I lived in Connecticut and they grow tobacco there but for cigars , I have never seen anything say Connecticut leaf in the pipe side of tobacco. Am I wrong to say its not the same type ? The Connecticut leaf is some of the finest used on the outer wrapper of a fine cigar. Superb tobacco leaf 👍👍 I enjoy it on cigars just never see it listed on pipe tobacco , I will do some research when it gets slower and find out.
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Post by william on Sept 15, 2018 15:10:09 GMT -5
Close to 300 Million Dollars loss of tobacco crops here in NC alone. Cotton and sweet potato crops are under water as well. The Department of Agriculture of NC will release the total loss of crops in NC mid week, after the flooding dissipates. I suppose all that is too far from the coast to be talking about "sharks in the collards." Seriously--that is a blow.....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2018 15:18:02 GMT -5
Close to 300 Million Dollars loss of tobacco crops here in NC alone. Cotton and sweet potato crops are under water as well. The Department of Agriculture of NC will release the total loss of crops in NC mid week, after the flooding dissipates. I suppose all that is too far from the coast to be talking about "sharks in the collards." Seriously--that is a blow..... Some serious flooding throughout NC, not only the coast line. Low-lying areas have been flooded as well. Hopefully the loss of crops is not as extreme, way to much media hype right now. I want to hear a damage report from The Department of Agriculture.....that I’ll believe!!
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Post by roadsdiverged on Sept 15, 2018 16:21:04 GMT -5
I wonder how much the Department Of Agriculture report will differ from the "media" report? It gives a "good" reason to increase the price of cigarettes because of the "tobacco" used in them being in short supply.
I hate the media btw.
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Post by herbinedave on Sept 15, 2018 16:34:23 GMT -5
The perils of being a small farmer.
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Post by Darin on Sept 15, 2018 16:36:52 GMT -5
Just to clarify ... that info in the OP is not from the media. This is coming directly from the buyer who has talked to his suppliers.
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Post by Legend Lover on Sept 15, 2018 16:54:23 GMT -5
Just to clarify ... that info in the OP is not from the media. This is coming directly from the buyer who has talked to his suppliers. this could force some small farmers out of business, I'm sure. I would like to think they're insured, but I'm not even sure insurance covers this type of damage.
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Post by flyinmanatee on Sept 15, 2018 17:01:56 GMT -5
I wonder how much the Department Of Agriculture report will differ from the "media" report? It gives a "good" reason to increase the price of cigarettes because of the "tobacco" used in them being in short supply. I hate the media btw. So supply shortages are not a legitimate reason for price increases? Not sure what you are saying.
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Post by roadsdiverged on Sept 15, 2018 17:37:26 GMT -5
I'm saying it's another reason to inflate prices that are already high.
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Post by oldcajun123 on Sept 15, 2018 17:52:15 GMT -5
Farmers have crop insurance, hope them the best. Suppliers will raise prices, that's just business, it's called Capitalism!
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Post by puffy on Sept 15, 2018 18:06:09 GMT -5
The higher prices get the less likely young folks will feel that they can afford to start smoking pipes.Dosen't bode well for the future of our hobby.
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Post by haebar on Sept 15, 2018 18:08:13 GMT -5
That's sad about the NC crop but it's a good thing that we can get Virginia tobaccos from other parts of the world. Canada produces some lovely Virginia tobacco.
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Post by sparks on Sept 16, 2018 8:38:39 GMT -5
Not good , looks like tobacco industry is in for a fun time. I lived in Connecticut and they grow tobacco there but for cigars , I have never seen anything say Connecticut leaf in the pipe side of tobacco. Am I wrong to say its not the same type ?
I believe there have been a few pipe blends that have utilized Connecticut shade tobacco, but as you said it is primarily for cigars, mainly binder and wrapper of course. Often tobbaco's are the same base leaf. CT shade was actually brought up from Virginia, but the different conditions such as climate and soil created a whole new varietal.
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Post by sablebrush52 on Sept 16, 2018 11:11:40 GMT -5
I'm saying it's another reason to inflate prices that are already high. Loss of product will result in price increases for sure. But I don't agree that prices are already high. Prices were propped up by subsidies that were removed several years ago. A lot of growers have switched to other crops because they can do better. That doesn't argue for too high prices, but for too low prices. In any case, devastating for the livelihoods of farmers, whatever they are growing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 11:58:31 GMT -5
I'm saying it's another reason to inflate prices that are already high. Prices were propped up by subsidies that were removed several years ago. A lot of growers have switched to other crops because they can do better. That's somewhat of a false characterization. We quit growing tobacco on my mother's farm after the price support system expired because we couldn't turn a profit growing it on a couple acres anymore. There wasn't any substitute crop from which we could make a profit on a small farm so we simply quit growing anything which was equally true of many here in Kentucky. Best of wishes to those in Carolina to recover from the loss of their crops.
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Post by crapgame on Sept 16, 2018 12:46:32 GMT -5
Not good , looks like tobacco industry is in for a fun time. I lived in Connecticut and they grow tobacco there but for cigars , I have never seen anything say Connecticut leaf in the pipe side of tobacco. Am I wrong to say its not the same type ? I have made several blends using that and they have worked out pretty good..
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 16, 2018 14:33:51 GMT -5
As high as it is, pipe tobacco is a bargain compared to other ways of smoking. We are lucky to have what we have at any price. Be sure that the government will do everything they can to kill it all.
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