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Post by Legend Lover on Sept 18, 2018 16:21:02 GMT -5
Where's the huge warnings on energy drinks or alcohol? Where's the ban on advertising?! Alcohol causes 80,000 deaths a year, but the alcohol industry has, thus far, been very successful at marketing it as an "adult choice" and maybe "good for you." That ain't gonna work much longer. They're going to come for Big Liquor, sooner or later. Mark my words. there's a sugar tax in the UK now. I can't see the labels changing though. |
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Post by Pistol Pete 1911 on Sept 18, 2018 16:41:52 GMT -5
I don't think I'll worry about labels and just be happy the FDA hasn't taken away our tobacco all together
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 17:06:31 GMT -5
Here are some of the labels I made with my label printer. I was more concerned with getting them done than being exact. Some I folded and tore. The idea was to show how I covered up a name as easily as you can cover a warning label. The others show the integrated image, which was simply get an image online, right click copy, paste.  |
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Sept 18, 2018 17:18:43 GMT -5
I respect the goal of plain packaging laws... no one wants cigarette packaging to be appealing to children. But why do they care about our pipe tobacco? Is some nefarious Snidely Whiplash-type character out there trying to sell kids on the ease and convenience of .... pipe-smoking? Really? |
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Sept 18, 2018 17:19:12 GMT -5
Alcohol causes 80,000 deaths a year, but the alcohol industry has, thus far, been very successful at marketing it as an "adult choice" and maybe "good for you." That ain't gonna work much longer. They're going to come for Big Liquor, sooner or later. Mark my words. there's a sugar tax in the UK now. I can't see the labels changing though. Sugar isn't linked to a list of cancers as long as your arm. Yet. Alcohol is a fabulously dangerous drug, comparable to heroin or cocaine in its social effects, but with much nastier health consequences. The industry has been very lucky so far. That luck isn't going to hold. I say all this as a fellow who likes liquor a little too much himself.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 17:23:20 GMT -5
Sugar is the only food staple that is refined as much as heroin
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Post by kxg on Sept 18, 2018 17:25:06 GMT -5
there's a sugar tax in the UK now. I can't see the labels changing though. Sugar isn't linked to a list of cancers as long as your arm. Yet. Alcohol is a fabulously dangerous drug, comparable to heroin or cocaine in its social effects, but with much nastier health consequences. The industry has been very lucky so far. That luck isn't going to hold. I say all this as a fellow who likes liquor a little too much himself. I'm guessing that luck has very little to do with it. If I wanted to know for sure, I would follow the money. |
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Post by blackmouth210 on Sept 18, 2018 17:29:17 GMT -5
Rather than removing the original label and then printing/attaching my own, I'll just switch 100% to jars when the tin labels get too obnoxious.
Jars are cheap and effective. I've had an occasional tin fail. I've never had a jar fail, so long as I do my part.
Besides, the jars are nice if I decide to return a blend to the cellar after sampling. Whereas I would never return a tin to storage once it's been opened.
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Sept 18, 2018 17:36:22 GMT -5
Sugar isn't linked to a list of cancers as long as your arm. Yet. Alcohol is a fabulously dangerous drug, comparable to heroin or cocaine in its social effects, but with much nastier health consequences. The industry has been very lucky so far. That luck isn't going to hold. I say all this as a fellow who likes liquor a little too much himself. I'm guessing that luck has very little to do with it. If I wanted to know for sure, I would follow the money. Well, yes, they have spent vast sums to keep things smelling sweet. But that strategy eventually faltered for Big Tobacco. Someday the piper will come calling for Big Liquor, too, for exactly the same reasons. (Conspiracy to hide health risks from their customers, high death tolls among Americans, etc) |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 18:15:00 GMT -5
I removed no labels on the tins. I went over Aperitif to save the art. The others are bought as empty tins, 4,8,16 ounces. I do that to keep all my blends handy and the rest are stored for long haul in survivor bags. I hate handling glass
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Post by william on Sept 18, 2018 19:21:14 GMT -5
Get a label printer and cover yon obnoxious verbiage I intend to do this. We need a database of templates of the old good tin art to print out and cover this garbage! Agreed. Making labels was discussed just a few days ago in another thread. But the idea of a database strikes me as interesting and possibly useful. I tend to turn the tin image into a png file (which has a transparent background) before running them through the printer. Here is an example:  When they are stuck to a ball jar lid, they look like this:  Anyway, if a database is started, I would be happy to upload all my images to it. And if there is a burning desire for anything I do not have--well I am retired so a little project might be welcomed--at least before the beginning of speckled trout season in mid-October and quail season in November. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 19:33:36 GMT -5
William that's what I was originally going for, but even with Avery Circle Labels they wouldn't register. Reading the reviews I was not alone. How are you doing that?
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Post by username on Sept 18, 2018 20:03:35 GMT -5
Printing new labels seems to be more hassle then it’s worth. But that’s just my opinion.
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Post by william on Sept 18, 2018 20:04:22 GMT -5
William that's what I was originally going for, but even with Avery Circle Labels they wouldn't register. Reading the reviews I was not alone. How are you doing that? David, Here is the thread I mentioned. See post #37 for a detailed explanation. thebriarpatchforum.com/thread/4696/bulk-cellaring-question?page=2The key to making this work (at least for me) was in step 9 where I mention using your own printer's dialogue box before you print. Your printer and your own software work better together. So when given that option in the "print" process, choose using your own printer's dialogue box. Is this making sense? It gives you much better control. I found that when printing directly from the Avery online software, it was always off a bit--and the more I tweaked it to try to make adjustments, the worse it got. I hope this is helpful. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 20:07:11 GMT -5
William that's what I was originally going for, but even with Avery Circle Labels they wouldn't register. Reading the reviews I was not alone. How are you doing that? David, Here is the thread I mentioned. See post #37 for a detailed explanation. thebriarpatchforum.com/thread/4696/bulk-cellaring-question?page=2The key to making this work (at least for me) was in step 9 where I mention using your own printer's dialogue box before you print. Your printer and your own software work better together. So when given that option in the "print" process, choose using your own printer's dialogue box. Is this making sense? It gives you much better control. I found that when printing directly from the Avery online software, it was always off a bit--and the more I tweaked it to try to make adjustments, the worse it got. I hope this is helpful. That sounds like a good plan |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 20:08:12 GMT -5
Printing new labels seems to be more hassle then it’s worth. But that’s just my opinion. I printed all the labels in the above photo in five minutes. That's why Label Printers rock |
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Post by trailboss on Sept 18, 2018 20:44:22 GMT -5
I don't think I'll worry about labels and just be happy the FDA hasn't taken away our tobacco all together Once we allow that to happen, as a nation we have lost our souls and have become a nation of slaves. In a sane society, these “masters” of us would have their heads on a pike. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 21:19:54 GMT -5
I respect the goal of plain packaging laws... no one wants cigarette packaging to be appealing to children. I've never smoked cigarettes, but I can't think of any cigarette packaging directed at kids except "Joe the Camel". This is just an attempt to do away with tobacco in any way possible using kids as an excuse. Meanwhile, recreational marijuana is being legalized in more and more states. I googled "Colorado smoking laws" the other day and marijuana laws came up. Tobacco was way down the list. I don't think I'll worry about labels and just be happy the FDA hasn't taken away our tobacco all together Once we allow that to happen, as a nation we have lost our souls and have become a nation of slaves. In a sane society, these “masters” of us would have their heads on a pike. I couldn't agree more. |
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Post by michael on Sept 18, 2018 22:22:58 GMT -5
I respect the goal of plain packaging laws... no one wants cigarette packaging to be appealing to children. I've never smoked cigarettes, but I can't think of any cigarette packaging directed at kids except "Joe the Camel". This is just an attempt to do away with tobacco in any way possible using kids as an excuse. Meanwhile, recreational marijuana is being legalized in more and more states. I googled "Colorado smoking laws" the other day and marijuana laws came up. Tobacco was way down the list. Once we allow that to happen, as a nation we have lost our souls and have become a nation of slaves. In a sane society, these “masters” of us would have their heads on a pike. I couldn't agree more.
There is a link between marijuana and mental issues in some people. I don't know of any such link between nicotine and mental issues.
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Post by McWiggins on Sept 18, 2018 23:29:52 GMT -5
I intend to do this. We need a database of templates of the old good tin art to print out and cover this garbage! Agreed. Making labels was discussed just a few days ago in another thread. But the idea of a database strikes me as interesting and possibly useful. I tend to turn the tin image into a png file (which has a transparent background) before running them through the printer. Here is an example: When they are stuck to a ball jar lid, they look like this: Anyway, if a database is started, I would be happy to upload all my images to it. And if there is a burning desire for anything I do not have--well I am retired so a little project might be welcomed--at least before the beginning of speckled trout season in mid-October and quail season in November. I was told of this website on this forum. Its a start? cellarlabels.com/labels/I've never smoked cigarettes, but I can't think of any cigarette packaging directed at kids except "Joe the Camel". This is just an attempt to do away with tobacco in any way possible using kids as an excuse. Meanwhile, recreational marijuana is being legalized in more and more states. I googled "Colorado smoking laws" the other day and marijuana laws came up. Tobacco was way down the list. I couldn't agree more. There is a link between marijuana and mental issues in some people. I don't know of any such link between nicotine and mental issues.
There is a link but as with all links, there is more study needed. Many chemicals and compounds can be linked to mental health and/or development. Nicotine, caffeine, THC, alcohol, psilocybin to even lead that was once very prevalent in gasoline and a study seemed to correlate how removing it showed a decrease in certain mental health issues in young people in urban areas. But that's a whole other wormhole.  |
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Post by Wolfman on Sept 19, 2018 10:58:00 GMT -5
Here are some of the labels I made with my label printer. I was more concerned with getting them done than being exact. Some I folded and tore. The idea was to show how I covered up a name as easily as you can cover a warning label. The others show the integrated image, which was simply get an image online, right click copy, paste. I like what you did @cosmicbobo. Soon there will be another warning label above the label Warning of the danger of covering the first label! |
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Post by Wolfman on Sept 19, 2018 11:00:32 GMT -5
william wrote: was told of this website on this forum. Its a start? cellarlabels.com/labels/ Thank you
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Sept 19, 2018 11:04:24 GMT -5
I respect the goal of plain packaging laws... no one wants cigarette packaging to be appealing to children. I've never smoked cigarettes, but I can't think of any cigarette packaging directed at kids except "Joe the Camel". This is just an attempt to do away with tobacco in any way possible using kids as an excuse. There's literally a brand called "Kool."
Children are a core target for cigarette marketing because adults don't switch brands. You want to reach them as early as possible, when they first start smoking.
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Post by haveldad on Sept 19, 2018 11:06:51 GMT -5
I've never smoked cigarettes, but I can't think of any cigarette packaging directed at kids except "Joe the Camel". This is just an attempt to do away with tobacco in any way possible using kids as an excuse. There's literally a brand called "Kool."
Children are a core target for cigarette marketing because adults don't switch brands. You want to reach them as early as possible, when they first start smoking.
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Post by Dramatwist on Sept 19, 2018 13:03:24 GMT -5
Just be glad that the gentleman on the tin is still allowed to be seen smoking. Someone is slipping in their responsibilities.
Reminds me of a rumor I read somewhere about Pirates of the Carribbean ride at Disneyland something about promoting smoking .. also removing some characters for being "offensive". Maybe they should just put a warning label on instead.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 13:10:23 GMT -5
There needs to be equal sized warning labels on every food item that has more than 10 grams of refined sugar in it. Heart attacks from clogged arteries and the common USA obesity kill more people than anything.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 16:46:21 GMT -5
Rather than removing the original label and then printing/attaching my own, I'll just switch 100% to jars when the tin labels get too obnoxious. Jars are cheap and effective. I've had an occasional tin fail. I've never had a jar fail, so long as I do my part. Besides, the jars are nice if I decide to return a blend to the cellar after sampling. Whereas I would never return a tin to storage once it's been opened. Jars are great once you've opened the tin, but I like the idea of affixing the label (sans nanny message/image) to the lid. That said, I haven't done it with any of mine thus far. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 17:59:49 GMT -5
I've never smoked cigarettes, but I can't think of any cigarette packaging directed at kids except "Joe the Camel". This is just an attempt to do away with tobacco in any way possible using kids as an excuse. Meanwhile, recreational marijuana is being legalized in more and more states. I googled "Colorado smoking laws" the other day and marijuana laws came up. Tobacco was way down the list. I couldn't agree more.
There is a link between marijuana and mental issues in some people. I don't know of any such link between nicotine and mental issues.
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Post by michael on Sept 19, 2018 18:31:57 GMT -5
Is there a good place to purchase tobacco tins online for cheap for tinning bulk blends ?
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 19, 2018 18:36:54 GMT -5
Kinda strange, I have known plenty of people that have died from cancers of various sorts, none from smoking that I recall. My dad smoked 2-3 packs of Pall Mall non filters, but he wrecked his liver before the coffin nails got him. Cigarettes killed my father and my brother. In my brother's case it was 37 years and 8 open heart surgeries before it was done, but he smoked from the time he was 13,and from 25 to 37 he smoked 2 cartons a day. |
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