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Post by herbinedave on Oct 4, 2018 19:35:00 GMT -5
It's a vast conspiracy! I wonder if the Rothchilds have anything to do with it!
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Post by rmb on Oct 4, 2018 19:38:38 GMT -5
It's a vast conspiracy! I wonder if the Rothchilds have anything to do with it! It was the illuminutty! |
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Post by dave g on Oct 5, 2018 0:12:58 GMT -5
I’d love to pay more money for my tobacco.
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Post by haveldad on Oct 5, 2018 1:17:56 GMT -5
That 20% off is the MSRP for them lol, Its like a Faux sale to entice you to buy, they're still making over their bottom line distributor price. Lots of businesses do that kind of stuff
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2018 4:10:01 GMT -5
I’d love to pay more money for my tobacco. By golly, we should all send the online retailers an extra 20% during the holiday season...🤪😜😂😂 |
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Post by danno44 on Oct 5, 2018 9:30:50 GMT -5
I originally compiled a long detailed possible explanation based on personal experience (30 years worth).
Instead of posting my ramble I’ll just say that typical markup on any product you purchase, the set price is normally cost of product to retailer x3.
As mentioned “loss leader” or selling at a discount is smoke and mirrors.
MSRP is above (the x3 factor) normal pricing in most cases.
Selling something at a discount is typically a savings to us the consumer but the company is still generating a profit.
Which is ultimately why a company is in business, to generate a profit.
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Post by briarbuck on Oct 5, 2018 10:47:19 GMT -5
That 20% off is the MSRP for them lol, Its like a Faux sale to entice you to buy, they're still making over their bottom line distributor price. Lots of businesses do that kind of stuff True, but the manufactures and distributors have the power to enforce MSRP if they have the testicular fortitude to do so. I cannot believe that the producers are happy that their products are always sold out. Smokers will find alternatives to replace perceived unobtanium. Sold out = higher chance of losing a customer to another company. Point being, discounting is lazy when the product is in uber high demand. They are just leaving piles of cash behind. In a time when B&M is under pressure just to be viable, walking away from potential margin is unimaginable. |
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Post by haveldad on Oct 5, 2018 22:29:24 GMT -5
That 20% off is the MSRP for them lol, Its like a Faux sale to entice you to buy, they're still making over their bottom line distributor price. Lots of businesses do that kind of stuff True, but the manufactures and distributors have the power to enforce MSRP if they have the testicular fortitude to do so. I cannot believe that the producers are happy that their products are always sold out. Smokers will find alternatives to replace perceived unobtanium. Sold out = higher chance of losing a customer to another company. Point being, discounting is lazy when the product is in uber high demand. They are just leaving piles of cash behind. In a time when B&M is under pressure just to be viable, walking away from potential margin is unimaginable. 100% agree from a business standpoint, I'd like to think they keep prices low out of the goodness of their hearts for us. Haha. |
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Post by Dramatwist on Oct 5, 2018 22:30:34 GMT -5
True, but the manufactures and distributors have the power to enforce MSRP if they have the testicular fortitude to do so. I cannot believe that the producers are happy that their products are always sold out. Smokers will find alternatives to replace perceived unobtanium. Sold out = higher chance of losing a customer to another company. Point being, discounting is lazy when the product is in uber high demand. They are just leaving piles of cash behind. In a time when B&M is under pressure just to be viable, walking away from potential margin is unimaginable. 100% agree from a business standpoint, I'd like to think they keep prices low out of the goodness of their hearts for us. Haha. ..."if wishes were horses, rides would be free"... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2018 23:51:20 GMT -5
100% agree from a business standpoint, I'd like to think they keep prices low out of the goodness of their hearts for us. Haha. ..."if wishes were horses, rides would be free"... "If wishers were Horses, Beggars would ride" as my mother always said. |
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Post by Legend Lover on Oct 6, 2018 10:03:39 GMT -5
My mum used to say, 'if 'ifs' and 'ands' were pots and pans,' but she never finished the sentence, so I'm not sure what happens if they are.
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Oct 6, 2018 10:06:27 GMT -5
That 20% off is the MSRP for them lol, Its like a Faux sale to entice you to buy, they're still making over their bottom line distributor price. Lots of businesses do that kind of stuff True, but the manufactures and distributors have the power to enforce MSRP if they have the testicular fortitude to do so. It's illegal to "enforce" an MSRP virtually everywhere in the United States. You can sometimes persuade a retailer to sign a minimum advertised price agreement, or just refuse to sell to discounters, but you can't force a retailer to sell a good at a particular price. I cannot believe that the producers are happy that their products are always sold out. Smokers will find alternatives to replace perceived unobtanium. Sold out = higher chance of losing a customer to another company. Point being, discounting is lazy when the product is in uber high demand. They are just leaving piles of cash behind. In a time when B&M is under pressure just to be viable, walking away from potential margin is unimaginable. Most pipe smokers are dudes who have been ordering the same things from the same places for decades. No retailer wants to lose long-time customers, and raising prices to respond to a shortage isn't going to look good for that core audience. The reddit crowd who change vendors twice a week to hoard tobaccos they've never smoked before are like locusts. No one can build a business on dudes obsessing over esoterica drops. |
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Post by Dramatwist on Oct 6, 2018 10:14:35 GMT -5
..."if wishes were horses, rides would be free"... "If wishers were Horses, Beggars would ride" as my mother always said. I believe that is the correct quote. Mine is from an old issue of "Mad" magazine, which finishes like this... "...If Huntley were Cronkite we'd watch NBC." Of course, anyone under the age of 60 is asking themselves "WTF?" |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 11:00:06 GMT -5
My mum used to say, 'if 'ifs' and 'ands' were pots and pans,' but she never finished the sentence, so I'm not sure what happens if they are. if ifs and and's were pots and pans, there'd be no work for tinkers' hands. |
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Post by driftingfate on Oct 6, 2018 11:48:51 GMT -5
Do we have any shooters on here? do any of you shooters remember paying 7 dollars for 500 .22 rounds? only to later find that the Walmart had sold out and you had to buy them from some shady dude in the parking lot out of his trunk for 75 dollars per 500 rounds? Not saying, just saying! Ammos never going to be cheaper than it is now. Buy cheap, stack deep. |
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Post by Legend Lover on Oct 6, 2018 14:49:22 GMT -5
My mum used to say, 'if 'ifs' and 'ands' were pots and pans,' but she never finished the sentence, so I'm not sure what happens if they are. if ifs and and's were pots and pans, there'd be no work for tinkers' hands. ahhh...thank you, kind sir. |
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