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Post by Dramatwist on Oct 16, 2018 14:30:26 GMT -5
Any of you folks tried the "Old German" clay pipes from P&C?
Considering getting a couple to try.
Thoughts?
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Post by Legend Lover on Oct 16, 2018 14:32:59 GMT -5
I've debated getting one too, but I'm not sure how often I'd use them.
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Post by Dramatwist on Oct 16, 2018 14:47:35 GMT -5
I've debated getting one too, but I'm not sure how often I'd use them. ...I know that the bowls get extremely hot, so you have to hold it by the stem... |
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Post by Dramatwist on Oct 16, 2018 14:50:21 GMT -5
In the really olden days, one would go into an inn, pub, tavern, etc, and order tobacco like a drink... they would load up the clay pipe for you, snap off the end of the stem (where the last patron smoked it) and serve it to you.
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Oct 16, 2018 14:52:34 GMT -5
In the really olden days, one would go into an inn, pub, tavern, etc, and order tobacco like a drink... they would load up the clay pipe for you, snap off the end of the stem (where the last patron smoked it) and serve it to you. Urban legend. There's no evidence of that in the archeology. People just liked the long stems for the sake of being away from the (hot) bowl.
Clay pipes were mass produced so they were quite inexpensive. If the long stem broke, throw it away.
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Post by monbla256 on Oct 16, 2018 14:57:13 GMT -5
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Post by Dramatwist on Oct 16, 2018 14:57:32 GMT -5
In the really olden days, one would go into an inn, pub, tavern, etc, and order tobacco like a drink... they would load up the clay pipe for you, snap off the end of the stem (where the last patron smoked it) and serve it to you. Urban legend. There's no evidence of that in the archeology. People just liked the long stems for the sake of being away from the (hot) bowl.
Clay pipes were mass produced so they were quite inexpensive. If the long stem broke, throw it away.
...I've read otherwise, but I have no reference to cite regarding archaeology... so I'll take your word for it... |
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Post by McWiggins on Oct 16, 2018 15:03:26 GMT -5
I have two that are thin and were supposed to have the really long stem on them. Each time they were shipped the stem got broken. I was told to just keep them and I was able to use sandpaper to smooth out the broken end for a usable mouthpiece.
I've smoked one of them about three times now using only Peter Stokkebye Luxury Twist Flake. Its true the bowl gets hot, so very hot! The smoke overall isnt bad and the clay makes it really dry. One day I'd like to buy one that's more ornate as I find from time to time it would be enjoyable but to me, nothing life changing. Just a nice change of pace and something to add variety.
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Oct 16, 2018 15:04:40 GMT -5
Urban legend. There's no evidence of that in the archeology. People just liked the long stems for the sake of being away from the (hot) bowl.
Clay pipes were mass produced so they were quite inexpensive. If the long stem broke, throw it away.
...I've read otherwise, but I have no reference to cite regarding archaeology... so I'll take your word for it... Clay pipes turn up by the hundred and thousand in filled-in cesspits. They were a super-common consumable at inns and taverns. |
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Post by Dramatwist on Oct 16, 2018 15:07:25 GMT -5
...I've read otherwise, but I have no reference to cite regarding archaeology... so I'll take your word for it... Clay pipes turn up by the hundred and thousand in filled-in cesspits. They were a super-common consumable at inns and taverns. Happy to read any references you might cite... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2018 15:54:34 GMT -5
I've debated getting one too, but I'm not sure how often I'd use them. ...I know that the bowls get extremely hot, so you have to hold it by the stem... Yup, very hot! But they smoke cool, the clay takes all the heat. I have two with long stems that smoke well. |
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Post by scrooge on Oct 16, 2018 16:07:28 GMT -5
Any of you folks tried the "Old German" clay pipes from P&C? Considering getting a couple to try. Thoughts? Like these Martin? I sent a couple to Lady M. you can ask her how they smoke. About 5-6 inches an the bowl is about the same size as the pete's. If you want a couple I'll send them to you. |
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Post by danno44 on Oct 16, 2018 17:28:59 GMT -5
Sorry can’t speak specifically about the PC ones, I do however have 1 clay I picked up from local BM and Inthink is German so could be same thing Regardless, I like to use them for when trying a new blend. Well that was my plan, but thinking about it, have only smoked them maybe a dozen times. It was inexpensive and well.....no other excuse. I did buy an American made clay pipe with a reed stem from a company in the New England area that found boxes of them dating back to being made during the civil war (or so they said). And thought it would cool to have something that old. I took it to Gettysburg a few years ago to have a pipe on the battlefield. It smoked like crap....oh well good intentions on my part and lighting it up didn’t summon any ghost either....  |
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Post by scrooge on Oct 16, 2018 17:35:59 GMT -5
Forgot picture OOPS!  |
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Post by pepesdad1 on Oct 16, 2018 19:44:40 GMT -5
Tried the clay pipe...didn't care all that much for it...too hot...very dry smoke...pretty much a novelty and one I didn't want to smoke it all that much.
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Post by Pistol Pete 1911 on Oct 16, 2018 21:22:03 GMT -5
I've debated getting one too, but I'm not sure how often I'd use them. ...I know that the bowls get extremely hot, so you have to hold it by the stem... I'm out |
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Post by rmb on Oct 16, 2018 21:36:12 GMT -5
I'd say give it a try, they tend to be fairly cheap. Even if its just to see what people used to smoke before our more commonly used materials. Clay pipes are an interesting piece of history. I intend to get a couple at some point. I had recently come across a few old ones come up at an auction house that is near my parents. One was dated and I took a few pictures. It wasn't immensely old, but it was pretty neat to hold a pipe that delicate that had been used and had managed to stay mostly intact for so long, the stem of was broken off near the tip.    |
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Post by Dramatwist on Oct 16, 2018 21:58:39 GMT -5
"There are thousands of pipe fragments found in Williamsburg. An early explanation for their ubiquity had it that in colonial-era taverns pipes passed from mouth to mouth, but that in the interests of hygiene the previously lip-gripped section was broken off and thrown away. There is no documentary support for that notion, but it is known that used pipes were placed in iron cradles and heat cleansed in bake ovens before being issued to the next round of smokers." www.history.org/foundation/journal/winter03-04/pipes.cfm |
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Post by Screaming Jazz on Oct 16, 2018 22:18:43 GMT -5
Forgot picture OOPS! I think that is what he's talking about. I believe the ones on P&C are a little less ornate thought. I think they look like the one on the top left that looks like it's a little old. |
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Post by Dramatwist on Oct 16, 2018 22:19:50 GMT -5
"There are thousands of pipe fragments found in Williamsburg. An early explanation for their ubiquity had it that in colonial-era taverns pipes passed from mouth to mouth, but that in the interests of hygiene the previously lip-gripped section was broken off and thrown away. There is no documentary support for that notion, but it is known that used pipes were placed in iron cradles and heat cleansed in bake ovens before being issued to the next round of smokers." www.history.org/foundation/journal/winter03-04/pipes.cfm...so, I see that smellthehatfirst is probably correct... kindly pardon my arse... I don't mind being incorrect sometimes... that's how I learn... even at my age... |
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Post by Dramatwist on Oct 16, 2018 22:47:39 GMT -5
...let it be noted that I provided the reference that showed me to be in the wrong, lol...
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Oct 16, 2018 22:53:07 GMT -5
...let it be noted that I provided the reference that showed me to be in the wrong, lol... It is noted. Humility is among our greatest virtues, and you have done well by any standard, friend. |
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Post by PhantomWolf on Oct 17, 2018 0:20:30 GMT -5
I'm sensitive to textures like chalkboards and un-glazed clay. I would probably drop one. I get goosebumps just thinking about my teeth rubbing against that clay. haha It would be nice to have one on display though.
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Post by Dramatwist on Oct 17, 2018 0:50:19 GMT -5
...yes, I'm thinking the entire notion may be a bust... but I certainly appreciate every comment and opinion... thank you, my friends...
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Post by scrooge on Oct 17, 2018 2:46:55 GMT -5
...yes, I'm thinking the entire notion may be a bust... but I certainly appreciate every comment and opinion... thank you, my friends...
Your teeth never touch the pipe Justin. Always put finger nail polish or the likes on the tip. Or they stick to your lips. Tip from condorlover1.
Nice try Drama I'll throw a few in the mail tomorrow. I got them free so pay it forward. So they say.
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Post by chasingembers on Oct 17, 2018 3:14:37 GMT -5
I've got a little Gouda clay that's been in my collection for a few years. It's a novelty at best, but I've never had issues with an overly hot bowl. Then again I've never had a brylon get hot either.  |
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Post by rmb on Oct 17, 2018 5:52:38 GMT -5
...let it be noted that I provided the reference that showed me to be in the wrong, lol... And it was an extremely interesting read too! Thanks for posting! |
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Post by Legend Lover on Oct 17, 2018 7:49:27 GMT -5
"There are thousands of pipe fragments found in Williamsburg. An early explanation for their ubiquity had it that in colonial-era taverns pipes passed from mouth to mouth, but that in the interests of hygiene the previously lip-gripped section was broken off and thrown away. There is no documentary support for that notion, but it is known that used pipes were placed in iron cradles and heat cleansed in bake ovens before being issued to the next round of smokers." www.history.org/foundation/journal/winter03-04/pipes.cfm...so, I see that smellthehatfirst is probably correct... kindly pardon my arse... I don't mind being incorrect sometimes... that's how I learn... even at my age... You are a fine man, sir; a fine man indeed. But you've got me thinking... Surely these would be easy to make, no? I might grab some clay and have a go. |
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Post by McWiggins on Oct 17, 2018 8:33:28 GMT -5
Im sure a full on hand process can be done though. |
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Post by Legend Lover on Oct 17, 2018 8:41:53 GMT -5
Im sure a full on hand process can be done though. I was thinking that... Make the shape and stick a wire through and you're done. Mightn't look as pretty. On the other hand, I could get my girls to paint it, glaze it and we're onto a winner. |
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