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Post by Motto on Aug 10, 2016 8:35:49 GMT -5
Good day folks, Three here different methods of amateur making of pressed tobacco " plugs" .
Glynn Quelch , uses a wooden box & clamps.
Dagners use a custom made rectangular steel box & clamps.
The Bremen piper uses an improvised metal tube & clamps
Mike Harman who has a YT channel posted on Glynn Quelch's video the tip of using a firebrick press, which I thought was a bright idea, so I ordered this PAPER LOG BRIQUETTE MAKER for less than £ 9 more anon in my pipe dream
GB enjoy you smoke rings.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2016 23:31:39 GMT -5
Interesting videos. Was disapointed when I saw all of them using purchased blended tobaccos. It would have been more interesting if they used blending tobacco for their own blends.
John R
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Post by Motto on Aug 11, 2016 9:34:13 GMT -5
Interesting videos. Was disapointed when I saw all of them using purchased blended tobaccos. It would have been more interesting if they used blending tobacco for their own blends. John R Yes John, I hope to experiment myself, I think the videos may have been, prototypes before further experimenting with further tobacco's , early days, more anon. |
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Post by Baboo on Aug 11, 2016 11:00:33 GMT -5
Interesting videos. Was disapointed when I saw all of them using purchased blended tobaccos. It would have been more interesting if they used blending tobacco for their own blends. John R Yes John, I hope to experiment myself, I think the videos may have been, prototypes before further experimenting with further tobacco's , early days, more anon. Thanks Motto! I had no idea just how easy this could be. I am now inspired to do some kakes myself! BTW: GQ Askwith & Burper Kakes are OUTSTANDING blends that I always keep cellared! |
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Post by Motto on Aug 11, 2016 13:12:58 GMT -5
Yes John, I hope to experiment myself, I think the videos may have been, prototypes before further experimenting with further tobacco's , early days, more anon. Thanks Motto ! I had no idea just how easy this could be. I am now inspired to do some kakes myself! BTW: GQ Askwith & Burper Kakes are OUTSTANDING blends that I always keep cellared! I think the PAPER LOG BRIQUETTE MAKER is the best solution, I do not know how Mike Harman used them, but I am waiting for my order to come, I have only seen photos of them, but if you use cut pieces of wood inside the log maker , you should be able to press any size you want , but only an idea yet. The potential for home blending is tremendous. I have just tried my first GH pigtail twist , more anon. |
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Post by Motto on Jan 11, 2017 15:42:32 GMT -5
G'day, another tobacco press cake making idea, my DIY project is still work in progress, bye
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Post by Motto on Mar 7, 2017 19:05:37 GMT -5
Hi Don , I added some developed ideas for press making in this thread I have a the paper briquette maker to try Work in progress.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2017 19:51:48 GMT -5
Awesome, Stan! I missed this thread. I hadn't joined up here yet. The last video with the bearded gent is the one I had seen. I will watch all of these tonight while trying the EGR for the first time. Woohoo!
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Post by papipeguy on Mar 7, 2017 19:54:32 GMT -5
Don, as I understand it whole leaf is essential to success. The outer wrapper of the plug will keep things together.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2017 20:18:03 GMT -5
Thanks John. I am excited to try this. l want to do it right, so have some reading and watching to do.
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Post by stvalentine on Mar 8, 2017 15:25:10 GMT -5
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Post by Motto on Mar 8, 2017 16:02:21 GMT -5
That has sobered me up to the technology Frank. Mein Herr, back to the drawing board, thanks. PS I checked eBay, do you think a 12 ton press would be necessary or is the 6 ton sufficient do you think, mein Herr? |
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Post by jitterbugdude on Mar 8, 2017 17:06:56 GMT -5
It depends on the area you plan to press. It's all about the psi
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Post by stvalentine on Mar 8, 2017 17:49:42 GMT -5
I have a very small area to press, remember it´s just two inches in diameter and six tons is barely enough. I would go to 12 tons anytime and maybe will as my hydraulic unit has gone south.
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Post by Motto on Mar 8, 2017 18:55:04 GMT -5
An idea, how about using the paper briquette press, with increasing thickness hardwood blocks to increase the compression, while steaming the press inside an improvised steam box ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2017 19:13:57 GMT -5
This 8 ton pollen press would probably work well, but it is pretty expensive at $850.  |
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Post by jitterbugdude on Mar 9, 2017 9:59:43 GMT -5
In the MacBaren video, if I understood correctly it is stated they use 55 tons for 6 hours on a 40cm x 40cm chunk of tobacco. This would yield 430 PSI. So in order to obtain the same pressure on a 2 inch diameter plug you would only need a 2 ton press. The secret to making a plug like the pros is to have moist tobacco, pressed in a hot environment. You also need to apply more pressure to your press a few times a day because hydraulic jacks/presses lose a small amount of pressure over time. A pressure gauge on your jack would be ideal.
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Post by stvalentine on Mar 9, 2017 14:48:16 GMT -5
You´re on spot with that Randy. Other than the numbers would suggest though I had the feeling that even 6 tons is not enough.
On the other hand the higher the pressure the more rugged your form needs to be. I guess I am safe with that.
At six tons my jack looses it´s pressure so I will need to get a new one anyhow. It´s the reason for stepping up too.
@motto: The paper press might work but I am unsure because I am not familiar with them. I wouldn´t go for the steam as it makes
things very complicated. Without adding more pressure the steam won´t reach the tobacco in the press. I thought for a while
about heating the stainless tube but couldn´t find affordable heating wire and after I achieved good results without it I forgot
about it.
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Post by Motto on Mar 9, 2017 15:02:50 GMT -5
Thanks mein Herr, if you got good results with 6 tons without heat & steam ,that seems the way to go, maybe a better quality 2 or 3 or 4 ton ,rather than an inexpensive eBay quality , I will search online & locally. May I ask what order of temperature is required in your knowledge or experience ?
PS. Just a thought, but perhaps adapting the wire element from an inexpensive electric radiator heater replacement ?
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Post by stvalentine on Mar 9, 2017 15:14:23 GMT -5
You´re most welcome!
I was reluctant to fool around with electrics so I stayed with room temperature (or more basement temperature at that).
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