piffyr
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Post by piffyr on Nov 26, 2018 14:55:52 GMT -5
Aaaah, what about a twin-bore? I imagine it might work similarly to a V notch? Or, is it just a gimmick? I've read things in both camps. Twin bores, P-lips, circular slots (I don't care to use the word "orifical" in this case), wide slots, narrow slots... They all have their fans and detractors. It's my belief that technique matters as much as design and the smoker himself is always an unknown variable. The maker picks the style that they believe in most and the audience will sort themselves based on personal preferences. That's my two cents, anyway. |
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Post by Cramptholomew on Nov 26, 2018 15:26:34 GMT -5
Aaaah, what about a twin-bore? I imagine it might work similarly to a V notch? Or, is it just a gimmick? I've read things in both camps. Twin bores, P-lips, circular slots (I don't care to use the word "orifical" in this case), wide slots, narrow slots... They all have their fans and detractors. It's my belief that technique matters as much as design and the smoker himself is always an unknown variable. The maker picks the style that they believe in most and the audience will sort themselves based on personal preferences. That's my two cents, anyway. I haven't tried a twin-bore. I have round slots, and funnels. No p-lips, but they don't appeal to me for some reason, so I probably won't buy any. Maybe I'll try to make a twin-bore and see what's what. |
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Post by slowroll on Nov 26, 2018 16:31:11 GMT -5
By reducing flow resistance at the beginning of the stem it is still increasing the volume of smoke by reducing the surface area the smoke has to travel across to exit the stem. Doesn't really matter if the exit of the stem isn't shaped properly what the volume is, there will still be a less than optimal flow out of the stem. |
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Post by slowroll on Nov 26, 2018 16:33:40 GMT -5
Aaaah, what about a twin-bore? I imagine it might work similarly to a V notch? Or, is it just a gimmick? I've read things in both camps. In my limited experiences with them, I think they're a gimmick. |
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Post by georged on Nov 26, 2018 17:23:15 GMT -5
The twin-bore design was conceived to make a stem more durable---hard to puncture with teeth---for habitual hard clenchers. Smoke flow isn't/wasn't considered.
As for the flow thing, one man's ideal is another man's poison. I agree 100% with Piffyr's take on it.
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chasingembers
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Post by chasingembers on Nov 26, 2018 17:53:52 GMT -5
By reducing flow resistance at the beginning of the stem it is still increasing the volume of smoke by reducing the surface area the smoke has to travel across to exit the stem. Doesn't really matter if the exit of the stem isn't shaped properly what the volume is, there will still be a less than optimal flow out of the stem. Agree completely, but the chamfer does reduce the bottleneck in the transition from shank to tenon and improves the flow if only slightly. Even with the best of engineering though, poor packing and cadence will defeat the purpose. |
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chasingembers
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Post by chasingembers on Nov 26, 2018 17:54:14 GMT -5
Aaaah, what about a twin-bore? I imagine it might work similarly to a V notch? Or, is it just a gimmick? I've read things in both camps. In my limited experiences with them, I think they're a gimmick. +1 |
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chasingembers
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Post by chasingembers on Nov 26, 2018 17:58:58 GMT -5
Aaaah, what about a twin-bore? I imagine it might work similarly to a V notch? Or, is it just a gimmick? I've read things in both camps. Twin bores, P-lips, circular slots (I don't care to use the word "orifical" in this case), wide slots, narrow slots... They all have their fans and detractors. It's my belief that technique matters as much as design and the smoker himself is always an unknown variable. The maker picks the style that they believe in most and the audience will sort themselves based on personal preferences. That's my two cents, anyway. My point exactly. All the engineering in the world can't fix bad technique. |
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Post by slowroll on Nov 26, 2018 18:14:08 GMT -5
It must be said in defence of many pipers, it ain't always a matter of poor technique, it's often a case of personal chemistry and tissue sensitivity.
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chasingembers
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Post by chasingembers on Nov 26, 2018 19:52:53 GMT -5
It must be said in defence of many pipers, it ain't always a matter of poor technique, it's often a case of personal chemistry and tissue sensitivity. That being the case, engineering won't solve that. Some smokers have a physical aversion to certain tobaccos. I've heard of red Virginias and Perique being the two I've heard the most complaints about. |
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