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Post by Quintsrevenge on Dec 13, 2018 23:25:56 GMT -5
Anyone own one ? Shot one ? 22lr or 380 ? Thinking about adding one to the collection.. The names Bond James Bond.. π
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Post by Dramatwist on Dec 13, 2018 23:30:40 GMT -5
Anyone own one ? Shot one ? 22lr or 380 ? Thinking about adding one to the collection.. The names Bond James Bond.. π I own one. The .380. If you decide to purchase, you won't be disappointed. It's the iconic James Bond pistol, after all. I recommend the Hornady Critical Defense round.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 1:50:06 GMT -5
I've owned two or three over the years. One was my BUG when I served overseas with the U.S. Foreign Service many years ago in Central and South America. Just make sure that the carry load will feed through it without hitch. Choose the load based on practice range time and results.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 3:01:26 GMT -5
Ben, if you have really big hands, I would advise you to shoot one first if you have not already. I love the design and function of the pistol, but they will "bite" me if I am not really careful. My "meathooks" are just too big for it. My grip on the gun in order to avoid slide bite is pretty compromised. I had one in 380 for a while. The Makarov is a little better in my hand, but I sold both of those that I once owned. I moved on to other pistols in the PPKS size class that I can shoot better and more instinctively. YMMV.
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Post by jitterbugdude on Dec 14, 2018 4:45:26 GMT -5
Actually, James Bond used a PPK not a PPKS.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 4:53:12 GMT -5
Anyone own one ? Shot one ? 22lr or 380 ? Thinking about adding one to the collection.. The names Bond James Bond.. π I own one. The .380. If you decide to purchase, you won't be disappointed. It's the iconic James Bond pistol, after all. I recommend the Hornady Critical Defense round. I as well, plus also use the Hornady CDR......never a jam upππ. For me a 22lr or even 22mag is good for plinking @ the range, definitely not the best for personal defense. Personal defense I only carry .380, .357 or one of my 1911βs. Got rid of my 40 calibers. A .357 or 45 is best for a one shot knock down power. PS Yes James Bond used the PPK. After rebuilding mine never a hang-up or jam.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 5:20:02 GMT -5
You will be a lot happier with the 380 they are now made by Smith and Wesson. Other than the Colt Detective you could not ask for a better concealed gun.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 5:29:30 GMT -5
When I carry my Sig Sauer P-238 Equinox, you cant tell Iβm carrying. Most accurate.380 Iβve ever had the pleasure of shooting.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 5:44:22 GMT -5
Ted, I had a P938 for about a minute. It was an impulse buy from Cabelas. I rarely succumb to those. Way too tiny for me, but a gorgeous little pistol. I seem to do best with handguns no smaller than the Glock 19 size range. I do stubbornly hang on to my S&W 442, even though it is a real challenge for me to shoot it proficiently.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 6:47:29 GMT -5
Ted, I had a P938 for about a minute. It was an impulse buy from Cabelas. I rarely succumb to those. Way too tiny for me, but a gorgeous little pistol. I seem to do best with handguns no smaller than the Glock 19 size range. I do stubbornly hang on to my S&W 442, even though it is a real challenge for me to shoot it proficiently. Don, nice looking little pistol, but I understand why you sold it PDQ. The grip was to small, to easy to get a slide bite if your not paying close attention. With the extended magazines I use on my P-238 I get a full comfortable grip, no chance of slide bite. I will say because of the size of the barrel the P-238 has more of a muzzle lift than any of my 1911βs. Lately Iβve been carrying my Ruger Commander 1911 with the extended magazine, I must say one of my favorite 1911βs. My two .357 mags are both S&W J-frame, both extremely accurate, Iβve owned both for many years, they look newπ I use Rand CLP now on all of my weapons, penetrates metal and great for those stubborn semi-automatic slides.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 7:54:22 GMT -5
Don't overlook the FEG PA63 A Hungarian PPK copy that's a little bigger it shoots 9x18 rounds. These can be had for cheap and are excellent firearms.
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Post by simnettpratt on Dec 14, 2018 8:26:03 GMT -5
Asking if you should buy a new gun is like asking if you should buy a new pipe. Of course! .22 or .380? Get both! Very few of us would pick the 22 over the 380 for defense, but the PPKS is a fine, all-metal old world craftsmanship type pistol, and handsome to boot. If it doesn't fit your hand, I bet you could sell it and not even lose any money. Of course you should get one
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Post by william on Dec 14, 2018 8:28:26 GMT -5
Here's mine. It is stamped "Made in W Germany" and is chambered for "9mm kurz" (380). I agree with others that it is most reliable with Hornady ammunition--I do not know why since the pointy profile of that round would seem to cause more feeding problems than the rounder profile of standard "ball" ammunition. It has bit me many times (the web of flesh between my thumb and forefinger). I would not rely on it for self defense. It is heavy for its size, and I will always question its reliability. If you are willing tote around that much weight, an Officer's size 1911 might be preferable. At least it is for me. Ted's Ruger is an excellent choice. Here's my EDC in an incredibly comfortable/concealable holster. Just my 2 cents' worth. YMMV. If you are looking at a PPK/S for fun--I'd say go for it. Just throw some bandaids and disinfectant in your range bag because the little bugger will bite.
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Post by Quintsrevenge on Dec 14, 2018 8:34:28 GMT -5
I carry a fn9c this would be for the range. I donβt have huge hands so maybe the fit would be ideal. Only reason I say 22lr is cheap to shoot and my wife would be able to shoot it no problem. I take her to the range with my FN and usually she only shoots it a handful of times.. I was looking for the nostalgia of owning one. Like pipes you have to have all shapes and sizes.. π
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 9:09:21 GMT -5
This is now my EDC conceal......Ruger Commander 1911, plus 2 extra magazines on my belt. Extremely pleased with its preference ππ
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Post by LSUTigersFan on Dec 14, 2018 9:19:11 GMT -5
Ben, if you have really big hands, I would advise you to shoot one first if you have not already. I love the design and function of the pistol, but they will "bite" me if I am not really careful. My "meathooks" are just too big for it. My grip on the gun in order to avoid slide bite is pretty compromised. I had one in 380 for a while. The Makarov is a little better in my hand, but I sold both of those that I once owned. I moved on to other pistols in the PPKS size class that I can shoot better and more instinctively. YMMV. I never shoot mine because of the bite!
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Post by oldcajun123 on Dec 14, 2018 9:57:15 GMT -5
Son gave his Mom this, he's a gun builder on his off time from Exxon. Figured he would not give his Mom crap. He said it needed to be broken in and he did so shooting over 200 rounds thru it. It's a Khar PM9, she carries it when she goes to bingo, I carry it when I go to the feed store, I have small hands and it fits good, accurate little sucker
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Post by Dramatwist on Dec 14, 2018 10:27:40 GMT -5
Here's mine. It is stamped "Made in W Germany" and is chambered for "9mm kurz" (380). I agree with others that it is most reliable with Hornady ammunition--I do not know why since the pointy profile of that round would seem to cause more feeding problems than the rounder profile of standard "ball" ammunition. It has bit me many times (the web of flesh between my thumb and forefinger). I would not rely on it for self defense. It is heavy for its size, and I will always question its reliability. If you are willing tote around that much weight, an Officer's size 1911 might be preferable. At least it is for me. Ted's Ruger is an excellent choice. Here's my EDC in an incredibly comfortable/concealable holster. Just my 2 cents' worth. YMMV. If you are looking at a PPK/S for fun--I'd say go for it. Just throw some bandaids and disinfectant in your range bag because the little bugger will bite. ...you're right, William... the little bugger will bite if you're not careful with your grip...
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Post by Dramatwist on Dec 14, 2018 10:32:35 GMT -5
The one I end up carrying most of the time is a Taurus TCP PT738. I use the same round, and it's much lighter than the PPKS. Made in USA, and it doesn't bite as much as the Walther.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 10:36:04 GMT -5
Just got my 9mm PPS M2 back from the factory recall. Heading to the range after lunch make sure everything is Jake.
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Post by Dramatwist on Dec 14, 2018 10:42:57 GMT -5
Actually, James Bond used a PPK not a PPKS. ...true...
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Post by Dramatwist on Dec 14, 2018 10:44:09 GMT -5
Son gave his Mom this, he's a gun builder on his off time from Exxon. Figured he would not give his Mom crap. He said it needed to be broken in and he did so shooting over 200 rounds thru it. It's a Khar PM9, she carries it when she goes to bingo, I carry it when I go to the feed store, I have small hands and it fits good, accurate little sucker ...that looks like a great little friend to have handy...
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Post by puffy on Dec 14, 2018 10:57:49 GMT -5
I've had a Bersa 380 for over 30 years. I've put a good many rounds through it no problems.My soon keeps it in shape for me.I keep it in my bed room ready if needed.I hope I never need it.If I do need it though I won't hesitate to use it.I also have a 38 revolver in the other bed room..I believe what a friend once told me..They can get in a lot easier than they can get out.
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Post by oldcajun123 on Dec 14, 2018 11:00:16 GMT -5
Yep, the mistake people make is going to them, go in a corner and wait, if they just steal π© you can replace it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 11:07:31 GMT -5
Ben, if you have really big hands, I would advise you to shoot one first if you have not already. I love the design and function of the pistol, but they will "bite" me if I am not really careful. My "meathooks" are just too big for it. My grip on the gun in order to avoid slide bite is pretty compromised. I had one in 380 for a while. The Makarov is a little better in my hand, but I sold both of those that I once owned. I moved on to other pistols in the PPKS size class that I can shoot better and more instinctively. YMMV. Plus 1 on what Don wrote regarding the Makarov. I still have one of the Bulgarian Arsenal Maks that went on sale in the west in the early 2000s. The best of the lot are the ones that were made in East Germany, with the Moscow-made coming in third, regardless of what anyone but me says. Lol. With the Bulgie, however, I was able to find a lot of aftermarket magazines and the same for the slide-mounted safety which I replaced as the original one was not secure enough. Also, the caliber for the Mak is a bit longer than the .380 ACP that is chambered for the PPK/S, and afaik may no longer be that easy to find. I never had Don's experience with getting bit in the web of the hand by the PPK/S, but then again I outfitted mine with aftermarket grips. Both the PPK/S and the Mak (which is basically a rip-off of PPK/S internals and other details) are very accurate little guns, and when correctly broken in are reliable. My experience with both, however, goes back to when I acquired them decades ago. Things may have changed, so some updated research is in order. Good fortune attend your endeavors.
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Post by Dramatwist on Dec 14, 2018 11:09:40 GMT -5
I carry a fn9c this would be for the range. I donβt have huge hands so maybe the fit would be ideal. Only reason I say 22lr is cheap to shoot and my wife would be able to shoot it no problem. I take her to the range with my FN and usually she only shoots it a handful of times.. I was looking for the nostalgia of owning one. Like pipes you have to have all shapes and sizes.. π ...I bought the .22 for my ex-wife and she is very comfortable and accurate with it...
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Post by Dramatwist on Dec 14, 2018 11:12:17 GMT -5
This is now my EDC conceal......Ruger Commander 1911, plus 2 extra magazines on my belt. Extremely pleased with its preference ππ ...nice piece... the 1911s are just too much for me to carry around anymore...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 11:13:07 GMT -5
Actually, James Bond used a PPK not a PPKS. There could be a slight difference from the Ian Fleming novels and the movies. In the novels, Bond was ordered to switch to a PPK .32 ACP after he was almost killed by Rosa Krebs in From Russia With Love when his little Beretta jammed on him or whatever. So unless you get a PPK in that smaller caliber it won't be precisely what Fleming wrote, although in those movies in which Bond carries a Beretta, it's probably a .380 ACP. Isn't this fun?
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Post by Ronv69 on Dec 14, 2018 11:16:25 GMT -5
I had a PPK and a PPKS in the 70's. Beautifully made little guns, like jewelry that shoot. But they are terrible to shoot. I suggest getting a more modern 380. A Ruger LCP weighs half as much and it much more pleasurable to shoot. The Makarov is very similar, half the price and much more fun to shoot. I would rather shoot my 44 Mag snubby than the PPK. At least shoot one before you buy it. But as long as you don't want to shoot it, it's the very best gun you can buy. π€ π
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Post by Dramatwist on Dec 14, 2018 11:16:58 GMT -5
Actually, James Bond used a PPK not a PPKS. There could be a slight difference from the Ian Fleming novels and the movies. In the novels, Bond was ordered to switch to a PPK .32 ACP after he was almost killed by Rosa Krebs in From Russia With Love when his little Beretta jammed on him or whatever. So unless you get a PPK in that smaller caliber it won't be precisely what Fleming wrote, although in those movies in which Bond carries a Beretta, it's probably a .380 ACP. Isn't this fun? ...ah, another aficionado of the novels! In the books, the Beretta was a .25 with no grip panels, if I remember correctly...
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