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Post by peteguy on Jan 14, 2019 23:04:34 GMT -5
OK all you old farts (me included) that have some knowledge of Balkan Sasieni history (me not included).
I would like a rundown on this blend. From its origins, companies that it has passed thru, manufacturing, etc., anything you can think of. When you smoked it, who made it then, etc. I understand it is now being blended by Stokkebye. I quite like it now.
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Post by priest2705 on Jan 14, 2019 23:06:05 GMT -5
I'm actually curious about it as well. I love the blend. I believe that I'd heard (or read) somewhere that it was designed to be a competitor or homage to Balkan Sobranie
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Post by peteguy on Jan 15, 2019 14:21:05 GMT -5
Nobody?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 15:28:29 GMT -5
As elusive as Red Wine Soup
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Post by sperrytops on Jan 15, 2019 15:35:00 GMT -5
As elusive as Red Wine Soup I'm like you. I know nothing about that blend other than seeing it in stores. All the hype is around Balkan Sobranie, which I know just as little about. |
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Post by peteguy on Jan 15, 2019 15:46:01 GMT -5
As elusive as Red Wine Soup HAHAHA |
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Post by pepesdad1 on Jan 15, 2019 19:59:01 GMT -5
I'm ready for a history lesson...too.
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Post by sablebrush52 on Jan 15, 2019 22:35:36 GMT -5
There doesn't seem to be a lot of info about it. One story is that Balkan Sasieni is actually an earlier Redstone recipe and is actually the earlier version what what later became Balkan Sobranie. Some people believe this to be true, and others do not.
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Post by trailboss on Jan 15, 2019 23:00:22 GMT -5
I could chime in...but do you want me to dazzle you with brilliance, or baffle you with Bullshit?
You figure out what is BS and what is brilliance.
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Post by pepesdad1 on Jan 15, 2019 23:07:10 GMT -5
Probably...bullshit...unless you have some superior knowledge about the subject.
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Post by trailboss on Jan 15, 2019 23:18:36 GMT -5
Probably...bullshit...unless you have some superior knowledge about the subject. I drive to the town of Superior Arizona weekly....that gives me street cred...literally. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2019 1:34:07 GMT -5
I know the recipe was modified several times as it changed hands. That is not BS cause I bought a soda one time in Superior Az. Jesse is holding back he knows the whole story and he can put it in words better than I can.
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Post by Dramatwist on Jan 16, 2019 1:46:15 GMT -5
There doesn't seem to be a lot of info about it. One story is that Balkan Sasieni is actually an earlier Redstone recipe and is actually the earlier version what what later became Balkan Sobranie. Some people believe this to be true, and others do not. This is correct. No definitive answer to the question. Disregard the hokum above. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2019 11:37:41 GMT -5
I will give you a hint Albert Weinburg EST 1879, Sorbaine House 33 Newman St, Oxford St , London W.1 . A cigarette you say? Yes but the name is not Redstone the name is Redstouna from Odessa Russia. Isaiah Redstouna was a 16 year old son of a merchant who immigrated to London in the year 1879 he is the nephew of Albert Weinburg. The cigarettes where made of the Finest Yenidje tobacco from Thrace Greece. Now here is where it gets tricky Robert Lewis, Cigar, Cigarette & Tobacco Merchant, St James’s Street, London, S.W.1”. One label places Lewis at 19, the other two at 20, St. James Street. Robert Lewis (now J. J. Fox) was founded in 1787. Then we have this clue Manufactured by / S. Fielding & Co. Ltd. / Stoke-On-Trent / England. Fielding operated from 1880 -1917. So if you have kept up so far we now have three Shops claiming to be the sole manufacturer of the damn cigarettes. So how does one know all this you ask. From the cigarette boxes of course the boxes were made of porcelain and called Black and White Pot-Lids and they are collectible so there is a book and inside was a paper label. Here is one ad cdn.rbth.com/980x-/all/2017/07/04/02-0117.jpg. So I told you and now you know the rest of the story or at least part of it. |
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Post by Mac on Jan 16, 2019 12:08:36 GMT -5
The link above brings a 404.
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Post by jpberg on Jan 16, 2019 13:03:06 GMT -5
Are we talking about Sobranie or Sasieni?
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Post by sablebrush52 on Jan 16, 2019 13:05:43 GMT -5
Sobranie cigarettes were fabulous. My favorite were the Chaliapin cigarettes, which had originally been blended specifically for the great Russian basso profundo in the 1920's. I enjoyed them as a special treat since they were very expensive, around $2 for a pack, which was a lot of money for a pack of cigs in 1970.
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Post by sablebrush52 on Jan 16, 2019 13:06:14 GMT -5
In a certain sense, it's they're the same thing.
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Post by Dramatwist on Jan 16, 2019 13:08:25 GMT -5
Sobranie cigarettes were fabulous. My favorite were the Chaliapin cigarettes, which had originally been blended specifically for the great Russian basso profundo in the 1920's. I enjoyed them as a special treat since they were very expensive, around $2 for a pack, which was a lot of money for a pack of cigs in 1970. That's what James Bond smoked. |
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Post by sablebrush52 on Jan 16, 2019 13:10:26 GMT -5
Sobranie cigarettes were fabulous. My favorite were the Chaliapin cigarettes, which had originally been blended specifically for the great Russian basso profundo in the 1920's. I enjoyed them as a special treat since they were very expensive, around $2 for a pack, which was a lot of money for a pack of cigs in 1970. That's what James Bond smoked. No wonder we both got laid a lot back then.  |
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Post by McWiggins on Jan 16, 2019 13:21:17 GMT -5
That's what James Bond smoked. No wonder we both got laid a lot back then. But of course, suave and apparently wealthy.  That pack would cost over $10 today. WOW! |
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Post by Dramatwist on Jan 16, 2019 13:30:22 GMT -5
No wonder we both got laid a lot back then. But of course, suave and apparently wealthy. That pack would cost over $10 today. WOW! is way suaver than me... I smoked Gitanes back then... |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 16, 2019 14:36:46 GMT -5
That's what James Bond smoked. No wonder we both got laid a lot back then. If you can't get laid in LA you aren't a vertebrate, and even then you probably aren't trying very hard. 😨😉🤠 |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 16, 2019 14:38:03 GMT -5
But of course, suave and apparently wealthy. That pack would cost over $10 today. WOW! is way suaver than me... I smoked Gitanes back then... My first wife smoked Vogue cigarettes, and she got laid a lot more than I did. 💩😎🤠 |
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Post by peteguy on Jan 16, 2019 14:50:22 GMT -5
Are we talking about Sobranie or Sasieni? Sasieni is what I was asking about. I wasnt aware of the connection to Sobranie but count me a believer if it makes Sasieni more valuable. |
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Post by sperrytops on Jan 16, 2019 15:42:59 GMT -5
Sobranie cigarettes were fabulous. My favorite were the Chaliapin cigarettes, which had originally been blended specifically for the great Russian basso profundo in the 1920's. I enjoyed them as a special treat since they were very expensive, around $2 for a pack, which was a lot of money for a pack of cigs in 1970. That's what James Bond smoked. And here I believed for the last 50 years that James Bond smoked Players and English Ovals. Boy am I disappointed. |
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Post by Cramptholomew on Jan 16, 2019 15:49:49 GMT -5
But of course, suave and apparently wealthy. That pack would cost over $10 today. WOW! is way suaver than me... I smoked Gitanes back then... Oooooo, Gitanes. REAL Gitanes. I used to love them. I didn't get them regularly, but fully enjoyed them when I did. So strong they'd make my bottom teeth hurt. |
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Post by Mac on Jan 16, 2019 16:48:58 GMT -5
Back to the photo. Here it is. And, that tin brings back memories as well as the cigs, though the ones I smoked came in a stiff thin cardboard type container, sorta like Parliaments. Was it red and black?  |
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Post by pepesdad1 on Jan 16, 2019 17:09:43 GMT -5
Ever try a Cuban cigarette called cienfuegos? Said to be the floor sweepings in the rolling part of the factory. Talk about a nic hit...would make the person next to you high.
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