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Post by Legend Lover on Jan 26, 2019 13:39:52 GMT -5
So kxg posted previously about having issues keeping the pipe lit at altitude. I had a different issue... Last week when I was skiing, I had a pipe on 2 occasions. And on both occasions I couldn't taste anything. Now most of you know I have issues with tasting anything but smoke anyway, but I couldn't even taste the smoke. Has anyone experienced this at altitude? That's the only variable that I can think of that changed. Maybe I'm just weird... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2019 14:15:41 GMT -5
A friend from NY owns a Cessna 425 Corsair from ‘85. The plane is highly maintained and he keeps the plane up to date. This is only one of his expensive toys. We’ve flown to Washington and Atlantic City a few times, never had an issue keeping a pipe lit. On my last trip to NY we went for a quick flight around NYC, NO MORE SMOKING....he had his interior completely reupholstered, new carpet and seats. He has his own hanger at Republic Airport on Long Island. Nice to be a multi-millionaire!!!
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Post by Legend Lover on Jan 26, 2019 14:35:32 GMT -5
A friend from NY owns a Cessna 425 Corsair from ‘85. The plane is highly maintained and he keeps the plane up to date. This is only one of his expensive toys. We’ve flown to Washington and Atlantic City a few times, never had an issue keeping a pipe lit. On my last trip to NY we went for a quick flight around NYC, NO MORE SMOKING....he had his interior completely reupholstered, new carpet and seats. He has his own hanger at Republic Airport on Long Island. Nice to be a multi-millionaire!!! What about taste? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2019 15:20:14 GMT -5
A friend from NY owns a Cessna 425 Corsair from ‘85. The plane is highly maintained and he keeps the plane up to date. This is only one of his expensive toys. We’ve flown to Washington and Atlantic City a few times, never had an issue keeping a pipe lit. On my last trip to NY we went for a quick flight around NYC, NO MORE SMOKING....he had his interior completely reupholstered, new carpet and seats. He has his own hanger at Republic Airport on Long Island. Nice to be a multi-millionaire!!! What about taste? Absolutely no issues. You ever eat good food on a plane? Did you taste your food properly? I’ve personally never noticed a difference when eating a meal on a plane. Do you now have good places in Ireland that make a real good pizza. Back in the 80’s I couldn’t find a good slice of pizza. |
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Post by kirk13 on Jan 26, 2019 15:35:13 GMT -5
Absolutely no issues. You ever eat good food on a plane? Did you taste your food properly? I’ve personally never noticed a difference when eating a meal on a plane. Do you now have good places in Ireland that make a real good pizza. Back in the 80’s I couldn’t find a good slice of pizza. 😂😂😂 I never tasted pizza til I left Norn Irn for SA in '84 |
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Post by kxg on Jan 26, 2019 16:19:28 GMT -5
A friend from NY owns a Cessna 425 Corsair from ‘85. The plane is highly maintained and he keeps the plane up to date. This is only one of his expensive toys. We’ve flown to Washington and Atlantic City a few times, never had an issue keeping a pipe lit. On my last trip to NY we went for a quick flight around NYC, NO MORE SMOKING....he had his interior completely reupholstered, new carpet and seats. He has his own hanger at Republic Airport on Long Island. Nice to be a multi-millionaire!!! According to the Google, the Cessna 425 Corsair is pressurized, which would negate the altitude impact on taste and keeping the pipe lit, if in fact there are such effects. Nice plane! |
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Post by McWiggins on Jan 26, 2019 16:29:30 GMT -5
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Post by kxg on Jan 26, 2019 16:39:36 GMT -5
Interesting article. Most of my flying experience is short hops with no food but the peanuts were certainly salty. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2019 17:01:41 GMT -5
A friend from NY owns a Cessna 425 Corsair from ‘85. The plane is highly maintained and he keeps the plane up to date. This is only one of his expensive toys. We’ve flown to Washington and Atlantic City a few times, never had an issue keeping a pipe lit. On my last trip to NY we went for a quick flight around NYC, NO MORE SMOKING....he had his interior completely reupholstered, new carpet and seats. He has his own hanger at Republic Airport on Long Island. Nice to be a multi-millionaire!!! According to the Google, the Cessna 425 Corsair is pressurized, which would negate the altitude impact on taste and keeping the pipe lit, if in fact there are such effects. Nice plane! He really enjoys flying and he can afford to purchase a Learjet. John won't part with his Cessna 425, he’d get rid of his wife first....lol. |
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Post by slowroll on Jan 26, 2019 19:04:56 GMT -5
A friend from NY owns a Cessna 425 Corsair from ‘85. The plane is highly maintained and he keeps the plane up to date. This is only one of his expensive toys. We’ve flown to Washington and Atlantic City a few times, never had an issue keeping a pipe lit. On my last trip to NY we went for a quick flight around NYC, NO MORE SMOKING....he had his interior completely reupholstered, new carpet and seats. He has his own hanger at Republic Airport on Long Island. Nice to be a multi-millionaire!!! According to the Google, the Cessna 425 Corsair is pressurized, which would negate the altitude impact on taste and keeping the pipe lit, if in fact there are such effects. Nice plane! They're only pressurized to 8000 feet or so, so that's about equal to many ski areas . I Used to ski Utah, and stayed at about 6500 feet, no problems eith pipes or cigars. |
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Post by kxg on Jan 27, 2019 10:12:07 GMT -5
When I wrote my original post, I was right at 9000' for a couple of days. I suspect there are lots of factors at play when the air is thin. Especially when you are not acclimated. I live at around 3100 feet so 9000 is a new ballgame.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 27, 2019 10:30:46 GMT -5
Absolutely no issues. You ever eat good food on a plane? Did you taste your food properly? I’ve personally never noticed a difference when eating a meal on a plane. Do you now have good places in Ireland that make a real good pizza. Back in the 80’s I couldn’t find a good slice of pizza. I for one have never tasted good food on an airplane. But I don't think it was because of the altitude. 🤠 |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 27, 2019 10:37:26 GMT -5
I have only smoked my pipe up to 7000'. CBK was unaffected.
Many moons ago I smoked other plant material at 11,400'. It was slightly enhanced. 😉🤠
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 11:42:24 GMT -5
Absolutely no issues. You ever eat good food on a plane? Did you taste your food properly? I’ve personally never noticed a difference when eating a meal on a plane. Do you now have good places in Ireland that make a real good pizza. Back in the 80’s I couldn’t find a good slice of pizza. I for one have never tasted good food on an airplane. But I don't think it was because of the altitude. 🤠 On international flights in the 80’ through the 90’s food was excellent, especially traveling first class. |
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Post by toshtego on Jan 27, 2019 11:57:49 GMT -5
I for one have never tasted good food on an airplane. But I don't think it was because of the altitude. 🤠 On international flights in the 80’ through the 90’s food was excellent, especially traveling first class. Around that time, I flew regularly between Los Angeles and London. Virgin Atlantic has good meals in Business Class. British Air, not so much. Lufthansa Business Class also had good food. I hear the bomb is Swiss Air and I would think Air France, Alitalia and SAS would also be up to the job. Then there is AeroFlot.... I read an article in a food magazine that our taste buds change at altitude. The salt and umami receptors especially. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 27, 2019 12:45:08 GMT -5
I for one have never tasted good food on an airplane. But I don't think it was because of the altitude. 🤠 On international flights in the 80’ through the 90’s food was excellent, especially traveling first class. I have no experience with traveling first class. |
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Post by daveinlax on Jan 27, 2019 12:55:11 GMT -5
On international flights in the 80’ through the 90’s food was excellent, especially traveling first class. I have no experience with traveling first class. Yeah all I know is the misery, gawd I hate this are we there yet class.  |
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Post by toshtego on Jan 27, 2019 13:11:16 GMT -5
On international flights in the 80’ through the 90’s food was excellent, especially traveling first class. I have no experience with traveling first class. Business Class on international flights was the best I could manage with my company. I paid for some flights myself. Once I flew Virgin Atlantic, Los Angeles to London in "Tourist Class". I was expecting pain. However, the IRA set off a bomb in London and the terrified American passengers cancelled in droves. I had most of the back of a 747 to myself, including a squad of Dutch and Swedish Stewardesses telling me how "brave" I was. I had my choice of entire rows of seats to sleep on fully stretched out with blankets and pillows no end. Multiple servings of meals. The return trip was more crowded with Yanks fleeing the IRA terror. LOL! So, I had to upgrade to Business Class. That meant the top deck of a 747. VA was an excellent airline. The ticket included a personal driver from the airport to home or hotel. Every VA employee had a smile and was happy in their work. A far cry from US carriers or British Air. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 27, 2019 13:12:17 GMT -5
I have no experience with traveling first class. Yeah all I know is the misery, gawd I hate this are we there yet class. I would rather drive across the country than fly. The coach seats are unbearable for a 6',260 lb person. The TSA staff are rude. No food at all. Delays and restrictions. I loved flying in the 70's, but I will only fly now if it's an emergency or there is no other way to get there. I don't believe that first class should be allowed. Raise the prices and make everyone equal. This would improve the overall experience. |
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Post by Legend Lover on Jan 27, 2019 13:14:39 GMT -5
I read an article in a food magazine that our taste buds change at altitude. The salt and umami receptors especially. That's what I was wondering... |
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Post by toshtego on Jan 27, 2019 13:17:28 GMT -5
Yeah all I know is the misery, gawd I hate this are we there yet class. I would rather drive across the country than fly. The coach seats are unbearable for a 6',260 lb person. The TSA staff are rude. No food at all. Delays and restrictions. I loved flying in the 70's, but I will only fly now if it's an emergency or there is no other way to get there. I don't believe that first class should be allowed. Raise the prices and make everyone equal. This would improve the overall experience. My last commercial aviation experience was during the summer of 2001. It is not likely I will fly commercial again. Since that time, I have relied upon Amtrak and love their service. This is not because I am afraid. I cannot tolerate the way US carriers treat their passengers with puny seats, no service and very poor attitudes. If it was bad in 2001 I can only imagine how punishing it is now. |
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Post by sperrytops on Jan 27, 2019 14:05:18 GMT -5
Never smoked at altitude so don't know. I'll have to give it a try to find out. I do know you metabolize alcohol faster at altitude. I was lectured on it by Chuck Yeager who sat next to me on a commercial flight back to Sacramento many years ago. I was only drinking wine, but he really got on my case.
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Post by Stearmandriver on Jan 27, 2019 17:22:08 GMT -5
Yeah all I know is the misery, gawd I hate this are we there yet class. I would rather drive across the country than fly. The coach seats are unbearable for a 6',260 lb person. The TSA staff are rude. No food at all. Delays and restrictions. I loved flying in the 70's, but I will only fly now if it's an emergency or there is no other way to get there. I don't believe that first class should be allowed. Raise the prices and make everyone equal. This would improve the overall experience. Here's the thing: corrected for inflation, domestic first class today is CHEAPER than full coach travel was in the 70s. No doubt coach was nicer then, but the public demanded deregulation... because free market always knows better, or something. Point being, you have the choice of traveling first class today for less than you paid for coach in the 70s... and have a better experience. ;-) |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 27, 2019 19:00:13 GMT -5
I would rather drive across the country than fly. The coach seats are unbearable for a 6',260 lb person. The TSA staff are rude. No food at all. Delays and restrictions. I loved flying in the 70's, but I will only fly now if it's an emergency or there is no other way to get there. I don't believe that first class should be allowed. Raise the prices and make everyone equal. This would improve the overall experience. Here's the thing: corrected for inflation, domestic first class today is CHEAPER than full coach travel was in the 70s. No doubt coach was nicer then, but the public demanded deregulation... because free market always knows better, or something. Point being, you have the choice of traveling first class today for less than you paid for coach in the 70s... and have a better experience. ;-) I don't think so. I suppose it would depend on where you are going. |
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Post by bonanzadriver on Jan 27, 2019 21:35:05 GMT -5
As I posted, last month, I was fortunate enough to have spent 3 weeks in Europe for business. My first weekend there we made the trek up to Wengen Switzerland and took the train on up to Kleine Sheidegg. It was only 6700 feet or so in altitude, but I didn't notice any difference in the taste of my pipes...  Beer and other libations tasted great as well...  |
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Post by Legend Lover on Jan 28, 2019 3:03:28 GMT -5
As I posted, last month, I was fortunate enough to have spent 3 weeks in Europe for business. My first weekend there we made the trek up to Wengen Switzerland and took the train on up to Kleine Sheidegg. It was only 6700 feet or so in altitude, but I didn't notice any difference in the taste of my pipes... Beer and other libations tasted great as well... Good to know. Maybe I just wasn't in the mood. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 6:01:23 GMT -5
I have never noticed any taste difference when smoking at altitude. All the way up to about 14,200 ft. A cigar or pipe on top of a 14er is worth the hike. Wind can be problematic. A wind cap for the pipe is a good idea.
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Jan 28, 2019 16:38:02 GMT -5
A friend from NY owns a Cessna 425 Corsair from ‘85. The plane is highly maintained and he keeps the plane up to date. This is only one of his expensive toys. We’ve flown to Washington and Atlantic City a few times, never had an issue keeping a pipe lit. On my last trip to NY we went for a quick flight around NYC, NO MORE SMOKING....he had his interior completely reupholstered, new carpet and seats. He has his own hanger at Republic Airport on Long Island. Nice to be a multi-millionaire!!! According to the Google, the Cessna 425 Corsair is pressurized, which would negate the altitude impact on taste and keeping the pipe lit, if in fact there are such effects. Nice plane! Only very expensive private jets pressurize the cabin to near ground level. In a commercial jet, or a less expensive plane like a Cessna, the cabin "altitude" is probably more like 5,000 to 10,000 feet, depending on actual altitude. Not sure how high LegendLover is skiing, but the plane experience may be relevant  |
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Post by Legend Lover on Jan 28, 2019 16:53:23 GMT -5
According to the Google, the Cessna 425 Corsair is pressurized, which would negate the altitude impact on taste and keeping the pipe lit, if in fact there are such effects. Nice plane! Only very expensive private jets pressurize the cabin to near ground level. In a commercial jet, or a less expensive plane like a Cessna, the cabin "altitude" is probably more like 5,000 to 10,000 feet, depending on actual altitude. Not sure how high LegendLover is skiing, but the plane experience may be relevant I was at around 3000m, so roughly 10,000 ft. |
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Post by tkcolo on Feb 1, 2019 12:31:21 GMT -5
I live at 8400', so that is my norm. I also smoke some down at 800'. Everything tastes and smells slightly different, but I assume that is more related to humidity. At elevation, we are usually at single digit humidity. I wouldn't say the magnitude of taste changes. I smell more earthy, musty, peaty smells at higher humidity. So maybe if that is your norm, it probably tastes a little hollow.
Other issues change taste for me. If I am busy, I'm smoking hotter be default. With any wind, the tobacco is just burning hotter. If I am talking, I am constantly smoking cool and relighting. If I'm outside and it's cold, i tend to smoke faster and hotter to get back inside. Those things all really change tastes for me. So, it's hard to get a good comparison for me.
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