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Post by AJ on Feb 27, 2019 22:54:25 GMT -5
Eating in the Fifties ... Interesting!
For those who long for the good old days and the 3 things we never had at our tables, near the end.
Pasta had not been invented. It was macaroni or spaghetti
Curry was a surname.
Taco? Never saw one till I was 15.
All chips were plain.
Oil was for lubricating, fat, lard, bacon grease, and butter was for cooking. Tea was made in a teapot using tea leaves and never green. Cubed sugar was regarded as posh. Chickens didn't have fingers in those days. None of us had ever heard of yogurt. We called it clabber. Healthy food consisted of anything edible! Cooking outside was called camping. Seaweed was not a recognized food. 'Kebab' was not even a word, never mind a food. Sugar enjoyed a good press in those days, and was regarded as being white gold. Prunes were medicinal and stewed. Surprisingly Muesli was readily available. It was called cattle feed. Pineapples came in chunks or were round with a hole in the middle, in a tin of heavy syrup; we had only ever seen a picture of a real one. Water came out of the tap. If someone had suggested bottling it and charging more than gasoline for it, they would have become a laughing stock. There were three things that we never ever had on/at our table in the fifties .. elbows, hats, and cell phones! ......and there were always two choices for each meal.. "Take it" or "Leave it"
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Post by blackmouth210 on Feb 27, 2019 22:56:34 GMT -5
Man, this is uplifting. So many things really have changed for the better.
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Post by trailboss on Feb 27, 2019 23:10:17 GMT -5
You have a point..transportation is better fresh pineapple's who woulda thunk it back then....But:
MY grandmother cooked over a wood stove when I was a kid..her hoosier cabinet was the crown jewel of the kitchen. 'Wash Up" was a command before eating, not a suggestion....everyone marched to the wash basin. Us kids listened to the adults at dinnertime and didn't speak much unless questioned, it wasn't a rule and no...we weren't second class citizens, it was deference to seniority, and we learned more from people that had trod the earth longer than our hairless butts.
Now people call 911 if their Chicken nugget order is a fail at the McDonald's drive through...I have seen sleazebag kids (no fault of their own) shove a bag of Cheeto's under the nacho cheese sauce dispenser, take it to the register and balk at being charged for the price and throwing it on the counter and walking out as a pissed kid.
It would be nice to merge the customs of earlier days with the benefits we now enjoy, sadly not the case.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2019 23:22:40 GMT -5
Fruit only in season up until the mid 70s. I saw my first Kiwi around 1985 or so.
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Post by sablebrush52 on Feb 28, 2019 1:59:31 GMT -5
Pasta was invented centuries ago. Spaghetti and macaroni are pasta. We certainly had plenty of both. A relatively cheap way to feed a large family.
We had Mexican food everywhere. It's much better, more varied, and more authentic now.
Not where I grew up. We had bar-b-que, salt and vinegar, and several others. That said, I can buy fresh cooked potato chips at a lot of places, which certainly wasn't the case in the 50's.
Oil was for cooking and for salad dressing. Grease was what you used for lubing your car or the axle of your go cart.
Well, we brewed our own tea, always black and always strong, but green tea was served at Chinese restaurants.
Cooking outside was called bar-b-queing, or the 4th of July
Pineapples came in a tin or were bought fresh from the store.
Yep.
Southern California was heaven back then. Fresh everything. Go out in your backyard and pick yourself some oranges.
TV dinners were regarded as posh.
Helms bakery trucks brought fresh baked goods to your doorstep. Milkmen delivered milk, soda water, and syrup. Bottled soda pop was a waste of money. Seaweed and sushi was pretty rare, but it existed in the Japanese neighborhoods. Pretty much all the things you mentioned were available in SoCal, and much, much, more. Fresh seafood, without the mercury and lead content. Foods from every part of the planet.
The french dip sandwich was invented in LA as was the supermarket.
We even had indoor plumbing!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2019 8:16:47 GMT -5
Bacon drippings are not grease except they are. Yep up until the mid 70s Socal was the bomb with oranges and produce far and wide. Now it is all houses and freeways. About 14 blocks from Disney it turned to strawberries all the way to the Santa Anita race track. Imperial Hwy was lined with Eucalyptus trees in front of huge Avocado and Orange groves. Soda was a treat and came in one size what we call a small now.
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Post by Butch Cassidy on Feb 28, 2019 8:38:30 GMT -5
Pasta was invented centuries ago. Spaghetti and macaroni are pasta. We certainly had plenty of both. A relatively cheap way to feed a large family. We had Mexican food everywhere. It's much better, more varied, and more authentic now. Not where I grew up. We had bar-b-que, salt and vinegar, and several others. That said, I can buy fresh cooked potato chips at a lot of places, which certainly wasn't the case in the 50's. Oil was for cooking and for salad dressing. Grease was what you used for lubing your car or the axle of your go cart. Well, we brewed our own tea, always black and always strong, but green tea was served at Chinese restaurants. Cooking outside was called bar-b-queing, or the 4th of July Pineapples came in a tin or were bought fresh from the store. Yep. Southern California was heaven back then. Fresh everything. Go out in your backyard and pick yourself some oranges. TV dinners were regarded as posh. Helms bakery trucks brought fresh baked goods to your doorstep. Milkmen delivered milk, soda water, and syrup. Bottled soda pop was a waste of money. Seaweed and sushi was pretty rare, but it existed in the Japanese neighborhoods. Pretty much all the things you mentioned were available in SoCal, and much, much, more. Fresh seafood, without the mercury and lead content. Foods from every part of the planet. The french dip sandwich was invented in LA as was the supermarket. We even had indoor plumbing! Thanks for clearing that up !!
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Post by Butch Cassidy on Feb 28, 2019 8:40:19 GMT -5
Eating in the Fifties ... Interesting! For those who long for the good old days and the 3 things we never had at our tables, near the end. Pasta had not been invented. It was macaroni or spaghetti Curry was a surname. Taco? Never saw one till I was 15. All chips were plain. Oil was for lubricating, fat, lard, bacon grease, and butter was for cooking. Tea was made in a teapot using tea leaves and never green. Cubed sugar was regarded as posh. Chickens didn't have fingers in those days. None of us had ever heard of yogurt. We called it clabber. Healthy food consisted of anything edible! Cooking outside was called camping. Seaweed was not a recognized food. 'Kebab' was not even a word, never mind a food. Sugar enjoyed a good press in those days, and was regarded as being white gold. Prunes were medicinal and stewed. Surprisingly Muesli was readily available. It was called cattle feed. Pineapples came in chunks or were round with a hole in the middle, in a tin of heavy syrup; we had only ever seen a picture of a real one. Water came out of the tap. If someone had suggested bottling it and charging more than gasoline for it, they would have become a laughing stock. There were three things that we never ever had on/at our table in the fifties .. elbows, hats, and cell phones! ......and there were always two choices for each meal.. "Take it" or "Leave it" Those were the days.......</
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2019 9:06:59 GMT -5
Those were the good “ old day “.......never more. We live in different times, the “ family unit “ in general is something in the past.....in most cases. We’re moving ahead, but in the wrong direction. JMHO
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Post by oldcajun123 on Feb 28, 2019 9:26:44 GMT -5
I’m gonna throw out something my Dad used to say when folks would sigh about the good ole days, He would say these are the Good ole days. In the ole days I worked for Brown and Root board reading, carrying heavy beams on our shoulders in the marsh to make a road, shoulders bleeding we were paid 50 cents a day. My son, ME, was allergic to regular milk , goats milk was 50 cents a quart, a whole days wages. Now I’ve got AC, indoor plumbing, a nice car, TV doesn’t go off at 10:00 pm. These are the good ole days. I’d look at him and see a man who busted his arse all his life for his family, couldn’t argue with that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2019 9:52:01 GMT -5
Well everyone wore the same stuff and when summer came around it was white T-shirts and cut offs. Sneakers came in two colors black and white mostly made of canvas. Phones were not attached to your hand. Everybody knew when the street lights came on it was time to go home and fast. The Tv reminded us that kids should be indoors after dark. We all drank water from a garden hose. A remote control and beer getter were the same thing called son. Eye glasses had two styles Cat Rye and Birth Control. The radio had AM. I am a 70s kid.
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Post by unknownpipesmoker on Feb 28, 2019 11:04:17 GMT -5
All of this is true unless you lived in California or New York.
Especially the bit about tacos.
But Cali has always been way different than the rest of the country. America is such a regional nation.
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Post by daveinlax on Feb 28, 2019 11:29:43 GMT -5
We’re moving ahead, but in the wrong direction. JMHO Take off your rose colored glasses. "The Way It Was" wasn't so good for so many. I don't know why we need this spam my crazy uncle sent me 10 years ago cut'n pasted on a pipe board?
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Post by sperrytops on Feb 28, 2019 11:54:30 GMT -5
In 50 years our kids are going to say these were the good old days. It's all relative. There were a lot of bad things going on back then too. We just choose to ignore them and focus on the nostalgia of the things we remember fondly.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2019 12:08:18 GMT -5
I do remember shish kebab from restaurants back in the fifties, where I lived. And my grandmother cooked only with olive oil, but that was us. The rest of the list is just as I remember, however.
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 28, 2019 12:14:59 GMT -5
Charles L. Allen had a sermon about "The Good Old Days" back in 1980 when he was close to 80 himself. He made many points, but the main thing is that aside from what we heard in the news, more people are living in safety and eating better than ever before in history. More people were educated and had longer life expectancy than ever. The End is not near and the human race has an unlimited capacity for growth. It has actually gotten better since then. I may long for certain places and moments from my past, but the happy times on my sharecropper uncle's farm weren't so happy for him. I was happy to hold the rabbit ears for my dad so he could watch the Friday night fights, but I am much happier with cable. A lot of foods mentioned by Sablebrush52 weren't available in Texas until the late 70s. Sushi came later and still hasn't made it to our house.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2019 12:15:54 GMT -5
We’re moving ahead, but in the wrong direction. JMHO Take off your rose colored glasses. "The Way It Was" wasn't so good for so many. I don't know why we need this spam my crazy uncle sent me 10 years ago cut'n pasted on a pipe board? Your wearing black glasses, times are so much better today?? Take a good look around you, a society of young people with no respect and know it alls. Help thy neighbor is a thing of the past.
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Post by sablebrush52 on Feb 28, 2019 12:25:24 GMT -5
Good old days is baloney. Bad old days is baloney. Every day has its trade offs. For example, medicine can improve and save lives in ways that were impossible 50 years ago, but it's so expensive that few can afford treatment.
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 28, 2019 12:28:23 GMT -5
Take off your rose colored glasses. "The Way It Was" wasn't so good for so many. I don't know why we need this spam my crazy uncle sent me 10 years ago cut'n pasted on a pipe board? Your wearing black glasses, times are so much better today?? Take a good look around you, a society of young people with no respect and know it alls. Help thy neighbor is a thing of the past. That's not true in my neighborhood, county, or state. Plenty of people helping people here. What you saw during Harvey was just an extreme example of what goes on every day in Houston and Texas. Bad actors everywhere, but they are outnumbered. The young people I know are great. Of course they have different interests, but they are good people. The ones that I had the lowest expectations for as kids have turned out great. Teachers, missionaries, Navy Pilots, etc.
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Post by Stearmandriver on Feb 28, 2019 12:38:04 GMT -5
The folks who believe the 50s in America were some kind of paradise typically fit one pretty narrow demographic. The ole days weren't so good if your skin was something other than white. If you had a vagina and aspired to be something other than a housewife, secretary, or maybe a teacher or nurse, how would that have worked out? Like someone else said, more people live in more safety and comfort today than ever before. Diseases that people lived in fear of are now words from history books (unless the anti vaxxers have their way). Many other diseases are no longer sentences to a quick, cruel death. We know more than we ever have about... everything. It's human nature to be nostalgic, because we have a psychological defense mechanism that remembers only the good, but this is dangerous in itself. You all know the saying about those who forget history. Remember that when you were kids, your elders were saying the same thing about the demise of the world when referencing your generation.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2019 12:48:59 GMT -5
Your wearing black glasses, times are so much better today?? Take a good look around you, a society of young people with no respect and know it alls. Help thy neighbor is a thing of the past. That's not true in my neighborhood, county, or state. Plenty of people helping people here. What you saw during Harvey was just an extreme example of what goes on every day in Houston and Texas. Bad actors everywhere, but they are outnumbered. The young people I know are great. Of course they have different interests, but they are good people. The ones that I had the lowest expectations for as kids have turned out great. Teachers, missionaries, Navy Pilots, etc. I surely don’t see that around here, but who knows in time of a catastrophic episode. Might be different once they get off their mobile devices.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2019 13:19:16 GMT -5
The folks who believe the 50s in America were some kind of paradise typically fit one pretty narrow demographic. The ole days weren't so good if your skin was something other than white. If you had a vagina and aspired to be something other than a housewife, secretary, or maybe a teacher or nurse, how would that have worked out? Like someone else said, more people live in more safety and comfort today than ever before. Diseases that people lived in fear of are now words from history books (unless the anti vaxxers have their way). Many other diseases are no longer sentences to a quick, cruel death. We know more than we ever have about... everything. It's human nature to be nostalgic, because we have a psychological defense mechanism that remembers only the good, but this is dangerous in itself. You all know the saying about those who forget history. Remember that when you were kids, your elders were saying the same thing about the demise of the world when referencing your generation. Totally agree with this post.... but jfc, can you imagine the reaction if I had written it? It would have been all pitchforks and tiki torches
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Post by Stearmandriver on Feb 28, 2019 13:24:01 GMT -5
The folks who believe the 50s in America were some kind of paradise typically fit one pretty narrow demographic. The ole days weren't so good if your skin was something other than white. If you had a vagina and aspired to be something other than a housewife, secretary, or maybe a teacher or nurse, how would that have worked out? Like someone else said, more people live in more safety and comfort today than ever before. Diseases that people lived in fear of are now words from history books (unless the anti vaxxers have their way). Many other diseases are no longer sentences to a quick, cruel death. We know more than we ever have about... everything. It's human nature to be nostalgic, because we have a psychological defense mechanism that remembers only the good, but this is dangerous in itself. You all know the saying about those who forget history. Remember that when you were kids, your elders were saying the same thing about the demise of the world when referencing your generation. Totally agree with this post.... but jfc, can you imagine the reaction if I had written it? It would have been all pitchforks and tiki torches Yeah, I figured I'd give you a break.
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Post by cgvt on Feb 28, 2019 13:35:42 GMT -5
This thread reminds me of my last 10 years or so of of my 30 years of Coast Guard service. I would hear a lot to the lifers lament that they couldn't believe the crap that they were getting out of boot camp these days. I would just laugh at them and tell them that they were getting the same crap that their bosses got when they came out of boot camp 20 or 30 years ago. They just forgot how big of screw ups they were when they were young, especially in the eyes of the older generation. Seems as if a lot of us here have forgotten too. Kids are still kids.
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Post by pappyjoe on Feb 28, 2019 13:49:21 GMT -5
Funny. I grew up in SE Texas in the 50s and 60s. We had tacos and tamales. The tamales were usually bought on a street corner in Beaumont, Tx from a Mexican family. Best tamales I ever had.
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Post by trailboss on Feb 28, 2019 14:16:50 GMT -5
In 50 years our kids are going to say these were the good old days. It's all relative. There were a lot of bad things going on back then too. We just choose to ignore them and focus on the nostalgia of the things we remember fondly. A lot of truth there. I like a lot of what took place without a lot of the modern conveniences of back in the day, but appreciate the modern conveniences we have now days...I wouldn’t want to be without them. I remember when my mom got a new wringer washer, she was happy that “The good old days” were behind her... washing clothes on a washboard sucked I was told.
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Post by sperrytops on Feb 28, 2019 14:36:04 GMT -5
This thread reminds me of my last 10 years or so of of my 30 years of Coast Guard service. I would hear a lot to the lifers lament that they couldn't believe the crap that they were getting out of boot camp these days. I would just laugh at them and tell them that they were getting the same crap that their bosses got when they came out of boot camp 20 or 30 years ago. They just forgot how big of screw ups they were when they were young, especially in the eyes of the older generation. Seems as if a lot of us here have forgotten too. Kids are still kids. Love it. So true.
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Post by AJ on Feb 28, 2019 14:40:40 GMT -5
We’re moving ahead, but in the wrong direction. JMHO Take off your rose colored glasses. "The Way It Was" wasn't so good for so many. I don't know why we need this spam my crazy uncle sent me 10 years ago cut'n pasted on a pipe board? This forum offers a place for its members to post threads that are considered “Humor and Fun”. This thread was posted by me in the appropriate room because I considered it fun to see the differences between the decades. If you don‘t like reading humor on a pipe forum I would suggest you not read the “Humor and Fun” threads. You state “The Way It Was” wasn’t so good for so many. It still isn’t. Maybe you should put on some glasses and look inward to see if you are you doing anything to alleviate their pain and suffering or are you just trying to stir up some type of grief and strife? AJ
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Post by pepesdad1 on Feb 28, 2019 16:27:20 GMT -5
The past had many things that many of us enjoyed and treasured. But life was not that good for many...medicine has changed alot and we are better for it....but many traditions and deep seated morals have gone by the wayside...things that should not be happening is happening and maybe it always had, but because news was mostly local we are now exposed to the crap that we weren't used to. Kids brought up proper don't get noticed, only the ones that lose their way.
Yeah, kids are still kids.
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Post by blackmouth210 on Feb 28, 2019 17:07:00 GMT -5
The past had many things that many of us enjoyed and treasured. But life was not that good for many...medicine has changed alot and we are better for it....but many traditions and deep seated morals have gone by the wayside...things that should not be happening is happening and maybe it always had, but because news was mostly local we are now exposed to the crap that we weren't used to. Kids brought up proper don't get noticed, only the ones that lose their way. Yeah, kids are still kids. Great points. Women, people of color, and other groups of Americans sure have lots of reasons to feel differently about the so-called "good old days". Like the song says, "The good old days weren't always good, and tomorrow ain't as bad as it seems"
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