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Post by Legend Lover on May 4, 2019 12:12:18 GMT -5
I've found that I can't taste much straight after a pipe. Does anyone else experience this?
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Post by Darin on May 4, 2019 12:24:02 GMT -5
How dry do you usually get your tobacco?
It sounds like a possible "steaming" of the taste buds.
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Post by Wolfman on May 4, 2019 12:39:23 GMT -5
Legend Lover You might want to smoke slower. Take another 30 seconds between puffs. DO you drink anything while you smoke?
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Post by Legend Lover on May 4, 2019 12:40:26 GMT -5
Interesting thoughts. I usually have a drink, but my tobacco is normally dry and I don't smoke that fast... At least I don't think I do.
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Post by Darin on May 4, 2019 12:58:21 GMT -5
How dry is "dry" … can you pinch it together or would it just fall back apart?
Do you use a filter?
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Post by Legend Lover on May 4, 2019 13:21:10 GMT -5
Sometimes i filter, other times not. By dry, I mean, the proper moisture level.
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Post by Darin on May 4, 2019 13:34:32 GMT -5
LOL … "proper" is a somewhat ambiguous term.  If you can pinch the tobacco and it sticks together at all, I'd say it's too damp. This leads to more steam and faster tongue fatigue. Many, many years ago I accidentally left some out overnight (this is a desert) and still decided to smoke it. After that experience, I knew I'd never go back and prefer almost "crispy" to damp at all. YMMV … just trying to help. |
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Post by Dramatwist on May 4, 2019 13:38:09 GMT -5
LOL … "proper" is a somewhat ambiguous term. If you can pinch the tobacco and it sticks together at all, I'd say it's too damp. This leads to more steam and faster tongue fatigue. Many, many years ago I accidentally left some out overnight (this is a desert) and still decided to smoke it. After that experience, I knew I'd never go back and prefer almost "crispy" to damp at all. YMMV … just trying to help. ...I agree with Darin... took me several years to figure this out when I began smoking a pipe... back in the old days... |
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Post by Cramptholomew on May 4, 2019 14:45:52 GMT -5
I'm lazy and almost always forget to dry the stuff. When I remember to do so, I'm always glad I did. Shame on me. A pox on my house. I guess that's why I tend to smoke drier stuff in the shop, since I drool like a mad dog when I work, for some reason.
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Post by Legend Lover on May 4, 2019 14:45:57 GMT -5
Aye, see... That's the proper level. 😉
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Post by qmechanics on May 4, 2019 16:13:05 GMT -5
Legend Lover did you spin around twice, say your hail Marys and scratch your nut sack? I hear this works for Dramatwist.😁 |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2019 16:53:20 GMT -5
I've found that I can't taste much straight after a pipe. Does anyone else experience this? So you don't taste anything but "smoke" when you smoke and can't taste anything after you smoke? You may be pulling too hard when you light your pipe. If so, you may be scorching your tongue straight off. That would explain both of your issues. If you have too pull hard, you may be packing your pipe too tightly. |
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Post by Legend Lover on May 4, 2019 17:13:55 GMT -5
I've found that I can't taste much straight after a pipe. Does anyone else experience this? So you don't taste anything but "smoke" when you smoke and can't taste anything after you smoke? You may be pulling too hard when you light your pipe. If so, you may be scorching your tongue straight off. That would explain both of your issues. If you have too pull hard, you may be packing your pipe too tightly. Interesting. I thought I sided on the looser end of the spectrum. My goal is to meet one of you lot in person and be enlightened. I'm sure there are loads that I need to change. |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2019 18:24:59 GMT -5
So you don't taste anything but "smoke" when you smoke and can't taste anything after you smoke? You may be pulling too hard when you light your pipe. If so, you may be scorching your tongue straight off. That would explain both of your issues. If you have to pull hard, you may be packing your pipe too tightly. Interesting. I thought I sided on the looser end of the spectrum. My goal is to meet one of you lot in person and be enlightened. I'm sure there are loads that I need to change. Packing too loosely is problematic too, but if you have to pull hard then there is something wrong. Either it's packed too tightly or the draft whole is blocked. There are also other reasons why people may pull too hard when lighting their pipes. The first is the one I already mentioned, packing too tightly. The second has already been suggested; tobacco is too moist which makes it hard to light so you pull harder to get it going. The third is skipping the false/charring light and trying to get your pipe going on one light (common rookie mistake). The fourth is trying to get huge billowy clouds of smoke with every puff (many coming over from cigars initially make this mistake), and lastly is trying to get more flavor and/or nicotine out of a mild tobacco. My thought is that you are scorching your mouth straight off for one of these reasons or for some other reason that I've left off. |
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Post by Legend Lover on May 7, 2019 9:14:13 GMT -5
So yesterday I used my p-lip, directing the smoke away from my tongue...
Same thing.
I'm assuming this rules out scorching my taste buds?
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Post by smellthehatfirst on May 7, 2019 12:16:23 GMT -5
So yesterday I used my p-lip, directing the smoke away from my tongue... Same thing. I'm assuming this rules out scorching my taste buds? Fraid not.
Burning the tobacco too fast will erase the flavor, whether or not your tongue is burned.
Tobacco burned too fast tends to have the signature flavors of "smoke" or "ashtray," instead of the richness pipe men hunt for.
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Post by smellthehatfirst on May 7, 2019 12:18:02 GMT -5
It's important to note that cadence ain't just a matter of how often you puff, it's how hard you draw.
With a cigar, you can suck on it as hard as you want, as long as you let it rest between draws. It don't work that way with a pipe.
You want to draw as gently as possible. If your draw is gentle enough, you can puff on it continuously and still have good results.
Easy does it.
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Post by Legend Lover on May 7, 2019 14:11:40 GMT -5
So yesterday I used my p-lip, directing the smoke away from my tongue... Same thing. I'm assuming this rules out scorching my taste buds? Fraid not.
Burning the tobacco too fast will erase the flavor, whether or not your tongue is burned.
Tobacco burned too fast tends to have the signature flavors of "smoke" or "ashtray," instead of the richness pipe men hunt for.
I've heard that before and I understand what's going on there. However, my problem was not being able to taste anything AFTER I smoke. And since someone suggested I could be scorching my taste buds, I'm thinking that's not the case, since with the p-lip the smoke is directed away from my tongue, but I still couldn't taste anything after that pipe either. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2019 14:29:54 GMT -5
A variant on this is 'mouth-over', where all you can taste for an hour or so, is the tobacco you just smoked. MacBaren Scottish blend sometimes does this to me and a couple of others I don't recall at the moment.
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Post by Legend Lover on May 7, 2019 15:51:57 GMT -5
A variant on this is 'mouth-over', where all you can taste for an hour or so, is the tobacco you just smoked. MacBaren Scottish blend sometimes does this to me and a couple of others I don't recall at the moment. I suppose that's what it could be. Not that I taste the tobacco, but I have a taste of smoke for quite some time after. |
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Post by sperrytops on May 7, 2019 16:14:02 GMT -5
Despite the fact that some tobaccos burn hotter than others, the p lip may be denying you the signals you need to know whether the temperature of your tobacco is too hot or not. I generally don't experience taste loss after a tobacco, but I try to slow down my cadence especially if it seems to be a hotter burning tobacco. Too dr y will burn hot, too wet will burn hot (from pulling on it) but all in all dry is better than wet. Easier to control how you smoke dry tobacco, where if its wet its just hard to control. But I have not experienced a ,loss of taste after smoking.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2019 19:35:53 GMT -5
Does your pipe feel hot in your hand, Legend Lover? Are you more sensitive to the temperature of food, i.e., are others able to eat or drink at temps that you find too hot? |
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Post by Stearmandriver on May 8, 2019 0:33:26 GMT -5
A variant on this is 'mouth-over', where all you can taste for an hour or so, is the tobacco you just smoked. MacBaren Scottish blend sometimes does this to me and a couple of others I don't recall at the moment. Well... there's worse tastes to be stuck with.  What about type of tobacco, LegendLover? Any difference with a Virginia blend vs English? I know when I was younger, I couldn't smoke most VAs because of nasty, almost chemical-burn type of bite. It would leave a tongue-numbing feeling a little like what you describe (oddly, except for MacBaren Mixture, which as an aromatic should have been even worse but somehow wasn't). I'm not qualified to give anyone pipe advice, especially not any of you guys... just an idea. |
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Post by Legend Lover on May 8, 2019 2:14:37 GMT -5
Does your pipe feel hot in your hand, Legend Lover ? Are you more sensitive to the temperature of food, i.e., are others able to eat or drink at temps that you find too hot? No. Pipe is normally no hotter than room temp, give or take a little. Of course, the odd time it does get hot, but not often. A variant on this is 'mouth-over', where all you can taste for an hour or so, is the tobacco you just smoked. MacBaren Scottish blend sometimes does this to me and a couple of others I don't recall at the moment. Well... there's worse tastes to be stuck with. What about type of tobacco, LegendLover? Any difference with a Virginia blend vs English? Happens with every tobacco. Perhaps I'm just an anomaly. If I ever have the pleasure of meeting up with any of you, I'll bring a cob and spare stem. I'll get you to pack it and get it going with the new stem, switch out the stem and continue once you've got it started to see if there's any difference. I'm pretty sure there won't be. |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2019 2:31:59 GMT -5
Does your pipe feel hot in your hand, Legend Lover ? Are you more sensitive to the temperature of food, i.e., are others able to eat or drink at temps that you find too hot? No. Pipe is normally no hotter than room temp, give or take a little. Of course, the odd time it does get hot, but not often. Well... there's worse tastes to be stuck with. What about type of tobacco, LegendLover? Any difference with a Virginia blend vs English? Happens with every tobacco. Perhaps I'm just an anomaly. If I ever have the pleasure of meeting up with any of you, I'll bring a cob and spare stem. I'll get you to pack it and get it going with the new stem, switch out the stem and continue once you've got it started to see if there's any difference. I'm pretty sure there won't be. Have you smoked a burley forward blend? If not, try Solani Aged Burley Flake and see if you have the same experience. Some people are sensitive to Virginias. |
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Post by Legend Lover on May 8, 2019 2:35:20 GMT -5
No. Pipe is normally no hotter than room temp, give or take a little. Of course, the odd time it does get hot, but not often. Happens with every tobacco. Perhaps I'm just an anomaly. If I ever have the pleasure of meeting up with any of you, I'll bring a cob and spare stem. I'll get you to pack it and get it going with the new stem, switch out the stem and continue once you've got it started to see if there's any difference. I'm pretty sure there won't be. Have you smoked a burley forward blend? If not, try Solani Aged Burley Flake and see if you have the same experience. Some people are sensitive to Virginias. I have some abf. I was keeping it in the tin, but since I've a few jars, I'll open it and try some before jarring. I can't imagine it'll be any different, but I'm willing to try. |
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Post by unknownpipesmoker on May 8, 2019 2:43:52 GMT -5
I've found that I can't taste much straight after a pipe. Does anyone else experience this? Slow down a bit paddy. Drink tea with your pipe to cleanse out those taste buds. |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2019 2:43:52 GMT -5
Have you smoked a burley forward blend? If not, try Solani Aged Burley Flake and see if you have the same experience. Some people are sensitive to Virginias. I have some abf. I was keeping it in the tin, but since I've a few jars, I'll open it and try some before jarring. I can't imagine it'll be any different, but I'm willing to try. I hope it works for you, LL. I'm pretty sensitive, but burley blends - no problem. Everybody's different. |
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Post by Legend Lover on May 8, 2019 2:45:36 GMT -5
I have some abf. I was keeping it in the tin, but since I've a few jars, I'll open it and try some before jarring. I can't imagine it'll be any different, but I'm willing to try. I hope it works for you, LL. I'm pretty sensitive, but burley blends - no problem. Everybody's different. cheers. It's not a big problem, really. I was just curious. |
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Post by elric on May 8, 2019 4:27:09 GMT -5
So yesterday I used my p-lip, directing the smoke away from my tongue... Same thing. I'm assuming this rules out scorching my taste buds? If your taste buds were being scorched, there'd be no doubt as you'd feel it. Do try the suggestions that have been offered. If nothing changes, it would suggest that it's a mouth pH thing I would think. |
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