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Post by addamsruspipe on May 12, 2019 12:30:01 GMT -5
I have found the best way to light my pipe is with fire. I have tried it without fire, but it just did not seem to be the same. With fire I get flavor, smoke and aroma. Without fire I just don't get all that. I have tried it multiple times with out fire, but just can't get it to work. I must be doing something wrong. Any tips for lighting your pipe with out fire.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 13:28:07 GMT -5
Were a small niche market, but one that could give Bic an increased market share if they produced a side firing lighter.
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Post by mgtarheel on May 12, 2019 13:31:45 GMT -5
Bought a Ronson pipe lighter at Walmart for $7.95. Works great, but still like my matches.
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Post by chasingembers on May 12, 2019 13:35:30 GMT -5
I have found the best way to light my pipe is with fire. I have tried it without fire, but it just did not seem to be the same. With fire I get flavor, smoke and aroma. Without fire I just don't get all that. I have tried it multiple times with out fire, but just can't get it to work. I must be doing something wrong. Any tips for lighting your pipe with out fire. 😂
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Post by Dramatwist on May 12, 2019 13:45:46 GMT -5
I resisted lighters for almost 50 years, until I came across the IM Corona "PipeMaster" (Black Matte.) Perhaps not as "cool" as the IM Corona "Old Boy" (with all the cute pipe shapes on it), it's a piezo-electric lighter with a gentle flame and the built-in pipe tamper and is as easily controlled as a match, which was my method all those years. Reliable as heck. Doesn't f*** with the rim of the pipe, either. I still have my IM Corona Pipemaster from the 60's...I've had it completely refitted with brand new guts...but it had a grudge against me...leaving it so long unused and unrecognized in the box with all my old pipes. I've tried the zippo insert and they work just fine...was looking for a Beattie Jet lighter like the one I used to have back in the 60's...finally got 2 from one of our more distinguished members here on the Patch...gave one to my good friend AJ and kept the other one...the only "issue" I have with it is that it will char a rim in no time, even though I can control the flame with the twist of my wrist...still a PIA, but it holds more fuel than a Zippo...so after all the hooing and hawing...I'm back to using a bic...much easier to deal with possible rim char which I am particularly concerned with my stained cobs, which is why I now stain the rim of all my cobs with black. Lol! Apologies Walt, should have read the post more carefully!
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Post by chasingembers on May 12, 2019 13:46:02 GMT -5
I can go read all the threads and "whitepaper" about lighters but none of that tells me WHY someone likes Lighter X over Lighter Y. ExChef What other information are you looking for? Most of the posts are saying just that, such as mine. Any other variables you are looking for or considering?
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Post by pepesdad1 on May 12, 2019 14:10:54 GMT -5
Not a problem, Martin...my phraseology wasn't the best! Comes with getting old and the mind doesn't translate thoughts into words so well.
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Post by Dramatwist on May 12, 2019 14:27:00 GMT -5
Not a problem, Martin...my phraseology wasn't the best! Comes with getting old and the mind doesn't translate thoughts into words so well. I've been wrong before... and I'm sure it'll happen again! Happy Sunday, my friend.
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Post by pepesdad1 on May 12, 2019 14:53:47 GMT -5
You, too, brother!
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Post by trailboss on May 12, 2019 16:19:46 GMT -5
My most dependable, reasonable cost of ownership, easy to fuel and flint is the zippo, best in the wind, not the end of the world if lost, is the Zippo.
I travel with my Zippo canister if I need to do a refill and carry spare flints.
Djeep makes a disposable lighter that is better than a bic, holds more fuel, and the large thumbpad is much more forgiving to a pipesmoker... it ticks some of the same boxes as the Zippo, (cost, not the end of the world if lost).
I use my Flamidor Flambeau, and Beattie Jet Lighter at home and the pipe club.
A buddy lost his Old Boy lighter at the West Coast Pipe Show, left it on the table at the cafe, so the hard to replace ones stay around home for the most part.
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Post by trailboss on May 12, 2019 16:24:33 GMT -5
I have a 1970’s colibri pipe lighter, made in Japan, that as soon as it is filled and you pull the fuel canister from the port, the fuel bleeds out.
I contacted Colibri, they do not have the parts...if anyone knows of a lighter repair place that works on such a lighter let me know.
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Post by Mac on May 12, 2019 17:09:33 GMT -5
I have a handful of good refillable butane lighters, none with a nozzle. Wooden and paper matches have their place, too in my household and car. To each his own.
Which one do I like best? An IM Corona Old boy with briar panels. Works every time, lightweight, and looks great. Drawback: costly.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 17:19:23 GMT -5
I have a 1970’s colibri pipe lighter, made in Japan, that as soon as it is filled and you pull the fuel canister from the port, the fuel bleeds out. I contacted Colibri, they do not have the parts...if anyone knows of a lighter repair place that works on such a lighter let me know. Charlie, My friend from Long Island had his Dads old Colibri lighter repaired two years ago. He sent it to the link I provided below. He uses the lighter often since repaired. Cost him $35.00 with shipping. Check this place out.......... www.elegantlighters.com/Lighter-Repairs-s/1841.htm
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2019 17:22:45 GMT -5
I have a pretty nice Colibri, but I feel the jet is too hot. I use it for cigars and it is great for that. I have a cheaper Djeep that works well, but doesn't hold butane over long time periods. I prefer, and use matches 95% of the time, but carry a cheap Scripto for those occasions when a match is problematic. Disposable butanes aren't as hot as the jet lighters and are durable and disposable. They are my go to most of the time, even on cigars.
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Post by trailboss on May 12, 2019 18:07:50 GMT -5
Thanks for the link, Ted but Colibri is on the cannot repair list.
Don, my Colibri was a pretty soft flame, and I could dial it down to a pin of a flame, nice pipe angle.
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Post by Ronv69 on May 12, 2019 18:32:58 GMT -5
I tried every kind of pipe lighter. My favorite was the Chinese copy of the Old Boy, but of course it failed after 2 years. I now have either Xbox or Thunderbird inserts in 4 Zippos. I have settled on this solution and I am set. They work every time, fuel lasts well, and they are cheap enough to just throw away if they break. I am on my third flint in one of Thunderbirds. Haven't had any issues with any of them.
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Post by qmechanics on May 12, 2019 22:48:59 GMT -5
qmechanicsMy intent with this thread was not to just get the "buy this lighter" responses, but to possibly get an understanding of what makes Lighter X makes a really good pipe lighter. Of course that is all subjective and would then need to be evaluated. Sort of what features make your car better in your opinion. I can go read all the threads and "whitepaper" about lighters but none of that tells me WHY someone likes Lighter X over Lighter Y. Just to clarify what I was asking for, for example, of my 3 goto cigar lighters, one is a decorative St Dupont style soft flame lighter, great for dressy occasions that don't warrant carrying my 1970s St. Dupont. My "EDC" cigar lighter is an inexpensive quad jet with a punch in the bottom in case i have forgotten a cutter for some bizarre reason. The last one is a Prometheus slim torch that I got myself as a gift when we took my daughter to Disney for the first time years ago. ExChef At the Patch, strict discipline to the original question is not mandatory practice. So one can find the same ideas in different though related threads; where overlap more readily occurs. For example, if one reads through the link I provided, a number of posts offer the reader the why even making a comparison or two (Smellthehatfirst makes a few statements that have direct overlap.). One can also read between the lines within other posts and get a fair understanding of the why without it being explicitly stated as well as look up the other threads I alluded to. Now with that said, apparently exchef desires a single, detailed thread exploring why one prefers a lighter or lighters (Style, make, design, type etc.), the reasons why one chooses a lighter/lighters over others etc. etc . So I do not oppose this thread, especially as membership and knowledge are not static. I simply state there are other threads to consider that have things to add, if one is so inclined to look.
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Post by exchef on May 13, 2019 8:02:58 GMT -5
qmechanics My intent with this thread was not to just get the "buy this lighter" responses, but to possibly get an understanding of what makes Lighter X makes a really good pipe lighter. Of course that is all subjective and would then need to be evaluated. Sort of what features make your car better in your opinion. I can go read all the threads and "whitepaper" about lighters but none of that tells me WHY someone likes Lighter X over Lighter Y. Just to clarify what I was asking for, for example, of my 3 goto cigar lighters, one is a decorative St Dupont style soft flame lighter, great for dressy occasions that don't warrant carrying my 1970s St. Dupont. My "EDC" cigar lighter is an inexpensive quad jet with a punch in the bottom in case i have forgotten a cutter for some bizarre reason. The last one is a Prometheus slim torch that I got myself as a gift when we took my daughter to Disney for the first time years ago. ExChef At the Patch, strict discipline to the original question is not mandatory practice. So one can find the same ideas in different though related threads; where overlap more readily occurs. For example, if one reads through the link I provided, a number of posts offer the reader the why even making a comparison or two (Smellthehatfirst makes a few statements that have direct overlap.). One can also read between the lines within other posts and get a fair understanding of the why without it being explicitly stated as well as look up the other threads I alluded to. Now with that said, apparently exchef desires a single, detailed thread exploring why one prefers a lighter or lighters (Style, make, design, type etc.), the reasons why one chooses a lighter/lighters over others etc. etc . So I do not oppose this thread, especially as membership and knowledge are not static. I simply state there are other threads to consider that have things to add, if one is so inclined to look. And now to get myself in trouble with the admins. qmechanics, have you been made the Patch Police? If you do not like my question or posts, DON’T READ THEM! I am pretty sure that it is condescending attitudes such as yours that have caused members like David to leave here. Now, please exit my thread, if the moderators or admins have issue with what I posted it is THEIR job to call me out on it, not yours. Normally I do not respond to trolls however my ability to deal with BS such as what you have spewed here has gotten under my skin. If you are not going to be useful, be gone. A large number of more senior members than you have decided to share their feedback, whereas you have chosen not to provide anything constructive. Have a great day. Legend Lover, I’ll take that timeout now. ExChef
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Post by Legend Lover on May 13, 2019 8:56:57 GMT -5
OK Friends. One thing that we do in the patch is go on tangents the odd time, and sometimes the original question gets lost. exchef was within his rights to clarify his question. I also think that qmechanics was trying to help by offering another thread where other's opinions have been shared, albeit in his inimitable style, which, let's face it, is a love/hate kinda thing. As for why David left, let's not assume anything. There's more going on than is public knowledge, so I'd appreciate that being put to bed. I don't want to close this thread, so let's focus on the question at hand and move on, if we can? I, for one would appreciate that. Many thanks.
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Post by oldcajun123 on May 13, 2019 9:07:02 GMT -5
Hey conversation flows and goes, good info sometimes comes out of a BULL💩 session. Not a moderator just an old man making an observation.
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Post by Legend Lover on May 13, 2019 9:09:20 GMT -5
Hey conversation flows and goes, good info sometimes comes out of a BULL💩 session. Not a moderator just an old man making an observation. You're right. We pick out the good bits and ignore the 💩.
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Post by smellthehatfirst on May 13, 2019 10:31:43 GMT -5
Hey conversation flows and goes, good info sometimes comes out of a BULL💩 session. Not a moderator just an old man making an observation. You're right. We pick out the good bits and ignore the 💩. Looking for corn in there, huh?
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Post by Legend Lover on May 13, 2019 11:18:54 GMT -5
You're right. We pick out the good bits and ignore the 💩. Looking for corn in there, huh? Lol. Always.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2019 11:35:33 GMT -5
Ok exchef the reason I use BIC is because it has a soft flame and it lights every time. Not really effected by wind and I don't much care for the smell of lighter fluid or matches. If I take it apart the flints fit my old Zippos but these days they use pretty short flints. I have never had any real luck with refillable butane lighters and price does not seem to dictate quality at least in my case. The Bic comes in easy to find colors important if you misplace stuff like I do. Heck I lose stuff on a three foot wide desk. If I lose a BIC who cyou tubeares I buy the multi pack. It is rare to get a bad BIC but it happens. I simply don't get a warm fuzzy thinking that by using a expensive lighter makes me a superior version of a human.
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Post by smellthehatfirst on May 13, 2019 14:55:36 GMT -5
I simply don't get a warm fuzzy thinking that by using a expensive lighter makes me a superior version of a human. Hey, don't knock it until you've tried it
A fancy lighter is a pleasure all its own.
(Not least: because you don't gotta hold down a button to keep the flame going.)
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2019 16:13:47 GMT -5
Oh I have tried em and they are all junk the land fills are full of my hard earned dollars for things that make flame. Butane were more comes out the fill port than where it is supposed to. Put the butane in the freezer yeah that works. Send it off for repair. So while you might like to twiddle with your toys I enjoy being able to make fire. I don't need your approval nor do I enjoy it. But I digress.
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Post by instymp on May 13, 2019 16:58:37 GMT -5
I'm a recent convert to the Zippo with pipe insert after YEARS of Bic lighters. It's a nice soft flame that's easy to draw down into the pipe. Also, I thought it would require more frequent refills but it's lasting a long, long time. Darin, Do you find that the zippo fuel taints the taste of the tobacco? Back in the day when I was a cigarette smoker, i used to use a zippo and the first couple drags of the cigarette tasted of the kerosene based fuel. Do you find the same thing here? Still have my Zippo, was a gift from a friend 30 years ago. ExChef If you use a match and stick it in a bowl you will get that sulfur or whatever it is smell/scent also. If you wait a couple seconds you get none from either. Use zippos for cigars & pipes all day everyday. Works for me for the last 56 years. And what I really love are the pipes I smoke to smoke and can use a butane torch to light them cause I an't selling them anyway.
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Post by That Falls Guy on May 13, 2019 17:22:43 GMT -5
IMHO, a Zippo lighter (for a pipe) does impart the taste of the fluid on the first couple of draws. After that, it's gone away.
But for lighting a pipe, I used to think that there was nothing better than a BIC. The BIC lit the pipe well without burning the pipe rim. However, I recently discovered the Clipper lighter. Basically the same as a BIC, but refillable, which the BIC is not. I bought 5 Clippers about a year ago. Just had to throw the first one away, as it just wore out. 4 more to go! Great value.
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Post by kbareit on May 13, 2019 17:59:42 GMT -5
I pretty much use Bics, Zippo's and matches. Bics because they are cheap and reliable, if I lose one who cares? Just buy another. I love my Zippo's and use them quite often. I use them with a standard and a pipe insert and love the smell of the fluid. They were all my grandfather ever used and the smell of the fluid brings back fond memories. I started using matches with special pipes that I don't want to char the rim on but for the most part I use my lighters.
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Post by instymp on May 13, 2019 18:02:04 GMT -5
But....I understand the want for a classy pipe lighter. Other than matches, Zippo or a Bic. Or a Magnifying glass.
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