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Post by pepesdad1 on May 28, 2019 10:29:21 GMT -5
I know you have heard it at least 100 times...don’t take the stem out until the pipe has cooled.
Well, being old, dumb and not having good sense and you’d think I would learn after having done it before.
BUT, don’t take the stem out of your cob when it is still hot or warm...why, you might ask, because the glue that holds the shank in the cob chamber will not hold...out will come the shank...just like that...leaving you with the thought...Damn, I’m really stupid, I’ve done this before with the same results...gotta glue the shank back into the cob chamber. Used super glue gel this last time and I don’t expect that to be different from regular Elmers glue so it isn’t like you’ve fixed it and it won’t happen again...YES, it will!!!
Just thought I’d pass on a bit of information...I gotta learn it the hard way...each and every time.
Walt aka Hard Head
ps: I now hold the shank in my hand tightly when I pull the stem out so as to not tempt fate.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2019 10:35:48 GMT -5
Walt, that can happen with many Cobs, even when cool and not smoked for a while. That’s why I keep Gorilla wood glue on hand. After the fix I’ve yet had one come apart again.
Sorry this happened to you, on a Cob your definitely better off waiting a while to clean or change the filter.
Better times are ahead now👌👍👍
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Post by stone on May 28, 2019 10:36:24 GMT -5
It's almost like that forbidden fruit. You know you shouldn't but you can't help yourself!
Like wizzing on an electric fence, or shooting your hand with a BB gun.
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Post by Legend Lover on May 28, 2019 10:50:10 GMT -5
At least they are easy to fix.
That said, I'm sorry Walt, I'll be honest with you... I'm still going to take the stem out after my smoke.
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Post by pepesdad1 on May 28, 2019 11:27:09 GMT -5
Yeah, I know it isn't a crisis...with care it is repairable and can't even be seen if you do it properly. Thanks, Ted...Gorilla wood glue..gotta get me some of that...super glue is not terrific for a fix as it penetrates the wood and makes it hard as hell but as far as keeping it together...not so much.
Paddy...me too, probably...memory these days is not all that good..just ask my wife.
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Post by sperrytops on May 28, 2019 12:13:02 GMT -5
Do these glues either affect the smoke, or introduce something bad into the smoke?
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Post by pepesdad1 on May 28, 2019 12:27:10 GMT -5
I haven't noticed anything untoward using super glue...it isn't inside the bowl nor inside the shank, so I don't think it will be a problem...With all the crap I've ingested in my body over the years, I doubt glue will have a chance to bother me.
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Post by Legend Lover on May 28, 2019 16:25:00 GMT -5
Yeah, I know it isn't a crisis...with care it is repairable and can't even be seen if you do it properly. Thanks, Ted...Gorilla wood glue..gotta get me some of that...super glue is not terrific for a fix as it penetrates the wood and makes it hard as hell but as far as keeping it together...not so much. Paddy...me too, probably...memory these days is not all that good..just ask my wife. ... As long as you remember who she is! |
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Post by Legend Lover on May 28, 2019 16:26:25 GMT -5
Do these glues either affect the smoke, or introduce something bad into the smoke? I think the 'official' recommendation is Elmers glue. It's non-toxic and I think might even be used by mm. Can't go far wrong with that. |
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Post by instymp on May 28, 2019 16:51:35 GMT -5
It's almost like that forbidden fruit. You know you shouldn't but you can't help yourself! Like wizzing on an electric fence, or shooting your hand with a BB gun. Like when the waitress puts the plate down & says don't touch it, it's hot? |
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Post by trailboss on May 28, 2019 17:25:49 GMT -5
It's almost like that forbidden fruit. You know you shouldn't but you can't help yourself! Like wizzing on an electric fence, or shooting your hand with a BB gun. I have done crazy stuff... never inclined to do either of them. When I lived in Colorado, the amusement ride came to town, set up in a shopping center. An old drunk guy wizzed on the junction box for the rides....bad idea. |
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Post by pepesdad1 on May 28, 2019 19:57:06 GMT -5
It's almost like that forbidden fruit. You know you shouldn't but you can't help yourself! Like wizzing on an electric fence, or shooting your hand with a BB gun. I have done crazy stuff... never inclined to do either of them. When I lived in Colorado, the amusement ride came to town, set up in a shopping center. An old drunk guy wizzed on the junction box for the rides....bad idea.I bet he got sober quick!! |
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Post by smellthehatfirst on May 29, 2019 13:47:33 GMT -5
I know you have heard it at least 100 times... don’t take the stem out until the pipe has cooled.
Well, being old, dumb and not having good sense and you’d think I would learn after having done it before. BUT, don’t take the stem out of your cob when it is still hot or warm...why, you might ask, because the glue that holds the shank in the cob chamber will not hold...out will come the shank...just like that...leaving you with the thought... Damn, I’m really stupid, I’ve done this before with the same results...gotta glue the shank back into the cob chamber. Used super glue gel this last time and I don’t expect that to be different from regular Elmers glue so it isn’t like you’ve fixed it and it won’t happen again... YES, it will!!!
Just thought I’d pass on a bit of information...I gotta learn it the hard way...each and every time. Walt aka Hard Head ps: I now hold the shank in my hand tightly when I pull the stem out so as to not tempt fate.
Superglue is conventionally cyanoacrylate glue. When heated it emits cyanide.
Elmer's is PVA... when heated it emits a lot of mystery hydrocarbons. Which ain't pleasant, but it beats cyanide.
Be careful about the heat there.
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Post by pepesdad1 on May 29, 2019 14:40:55 GMT -5
Thanks, Smellthehatfirst...didn't know that...and now I do and will use Elmers only...appreciate the tip!
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Post by Legend Lover on May 30, 2019 11:56:14 GMT -5
Thanks, Smellthehatfirst...didn't know that...and now I do and will use Elmers only...appreciate the tip! he just saved your life. 😉 |
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Post by pepesdad1 on May 30, 2019 14:53:31 GMT -5
Thanks, Smellthehatfirst...didn't know that...and now I do and will use Elmers only...appreciate the tip! he just saved your life. 😉 You never know what innocuous thing that you feel is safe turns out to be possibly dangerous if used improperly, which is another reason this forum is a good source of information. |
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 16:05:38 GMT -5
he just saved your life. 😉 You never know what innocuous thing that you feel is safe turns out to be possibly dangerous if used improperly, which is another reason this forum is a good source of information. Walt, I’ve been using Gorilla wood glue for about 4 years. Holds up best on a Cob, never had an issue after use. Read the article I put in quotation............... ” Gorilla Non-Toxic Waterbased Wood Glue Dries with No Yellow Coloration. Gorilla's Wood Glue is non-toxic and doesn't yellow as it dries. Gorilla Wood Glue is waterbased, solvent-free and nontoxic and requires a clamp time of less than 30 minutes with full cure in 24 hours “. PS I never used a clamp on any Cob, just hold in place for 5 minutes and set down gently. Your good to go👌👍👍 |
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Post by Baboo on May 30, 2019 17:00:56 GMT -5
So long as "food safe" adhesives aren't directly exposed to temps greater than, say, 4-700 degrees f', fusing pipe parts should be harmless healthwise.
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Post by pepesdad1 on May 30, 2019 17:44:37 GMT -5
"I never used a clamp on any Cob, just hold in place for 5 minutes and set down gently. Your good to go👌👍👍"
That's what I do too. Hate to get super glue on my fingers....and don't know it til later...real pisser sanding it off.
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