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Post by Motto on Jan 6, 2017 5:29:42 GMT -5
G'day, I could give a thousand reasons why I disliked this new rendition of our Mr Holmes in the 21st. Century, sufficient to say , HE DOES NOT SMOKE A NON-POLITICALLY CORRECT BRIAR PIPE !!! I switched it off before the first half an hour, but maybe the enthusiasts will enjoy this piece of modern art. Be seeing you all gentlemen & ladies.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 11:28:58 GMT -5
This one didn't impress me either but it's probably a generational thing. They're obviously targeting a younger audience. I did see an episode where the character smoked a pipe, a straight briar.
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Post by Motto on Jan 6, 2017 12:10:05 GMT -5
This one didn't impress me either but it's probably a generational thing. They're obviously targeting a younger audience. I did see an episode where the character smoked a pipe, a straight briar. Hi, yes a millennial squib, but I was dismissive after the first half an hour & missed the straight bit. Mr. Holmes with the great Ian McKellan was the "piece de resistance " those were the days my friends, be seeing Y'All.
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Post by papipeguy on Jan 6, 2017 18:03:26 GMT -5
I took the show for what it is and liked the new episode. Very intense especially with "Holmes" trying to come to terms with his human feelings. I will watch the other new shows.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 21:54:01 GMT -5
Stan, did you like the Robert Downey Jr. Movies. I was surprised that I liked them as much as I did. Probably because I am starved for anything Holmes. My favorite, because I watched them all in syndication as a teenager was the late 50's TV version with Ronald Howard as Holmes. I also enjoyed Jeremy Brett's portrayal in the 80s.
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Post by Lady Margaret on Jan 6, 2017 23:58:11 GMT -5
Jeremy Brett IS Holmes. I would love to see the character notebook he made in preparing for the role. He studied Doyle's stories thoroughly.
I also was surprised about how well I liked RDJ's Holmes. When I first heard about the movie I completely dismissed it and was prepared to stand outside the theatre in protest. However, hubby took me to a movie on my birthday that year and there was a trailer for the Holmes movie and the action scenes were so good I had to go see it, even though I was sure I would be disappointed. I wasn't. What I loved best was how they worked actual quotes from Doyle's stories into the dialogue. I also loved that he spoke French. My brother and I said "Je ne sais pas" at the same time with Holmes the first time we saw the movie (we both took French in high school and are both devotees of Holmes)
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Post by Motto on Jan 7, 2017 13:48:35 GMT -5
Stan, did you like the Robert Downey Jr. Movies. I was surprised that I liked them as much as I did. Probably because I am starved for anything Holmes. My favorite, because I watched them all in syndication as a teenager was the late 50's TV version with Ronald Howard as Holmes. I also enjoyed Jeremy Brett's portrayal in the 80s. Hi Don, Basil Rathbone from my youth was the archetypal Sherlock Holmes, & Ian McKellen in Mr Holmes captured some of that age somehow, but I was not a fan in my younger days particularly, only looking back in light of my reading & movie watching of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle & the Pipe connection , I have rekindled some interest, also the Maigret 1960 series starring Rupert Davis a local Liverpool actor impressed in me in the pipe smoking detective genre . Bye.
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Post by papipeguy on Jan 7, 2017 17:17:15 GMT -5
Truth be told, Sherlock was the chief inspiration for me taking up the pipe.
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Post by Baboo on Jan 7, 2017 18:36:35 GMT -5
I'm trying to warm up to the series in the spirit of Sherlock Holmes, but the original Sherlock spirit that anchors me keeps my watch tepid at best. I don't pretend to be a qualified critic, but that's just me.
That said, I do enjoy all Star Trek series incarnations, and their respective Captains & Crews. Doctor Who is pretty good also, but just doesn't grab me quite like the original...
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Post by Motto on Jan 7, 2017 23:40:08 GMT -5
I'm trying to warm up to the series in the spirit of Sherlock Holmes, but the original Sherlock spirit that anchors me keeps my watch tepid at best. I don't pretend to be a qualified critic, but that's just me. That said, I do enjoy all Star Trek series incarnations, and their respective Captains & Crews. Doctor Who is pretty good also, but just doesn't grab me quite like the original... Hi, I am not against contemporary cinema & TV as such, for example I follow the modern Bourne & James Bond series in popular cinema, but I may return to the latest Sherlock series & not be the grumpy old man, but some of it is in my youth the radio & books were more dominant than the TV or cinema, so I am kind off returning to my first loves,. In the 50's & 60's things were a lot different days in my City environment as most of us seniors know, especially in this part of the world compared to the States perhaps. But I am more into the written word than some of my artistic friends, particularly being more mathematical in my junior years., But as for star trek & Dr who I lost touch with those series many moons ago......bye
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Post by Motto on Jan 8, 2017 2:52:13 GMT -5
PS, sometimes the auto correct on the tablet , beats my editing before I am cut off by time out of the forum editor, & cannot correct the errors, please excuse the bad spelling & grammar at times...
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Post by PhantomWolf on Aug 5, 2017 15:45:31 GMT -5
I don't care for it either. I hate the trend of making youthful versions of everything. Why can't Holmes be a stuffy, slightly-pompous, older, English gentleman the way he always has been?
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Post by billyklubb on Aug 6, 2017 16:39:56 GMT -5
I rather enjoyed the whole run. I thought it to be an interesting take on the character and concept. I have come to terms with shows and movies not lining up with the written word and just enjoy it for what it is.
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Post by papipeguy on Aug 6, 2017 17:56:41 GMT -5
Same here, Billy. I take it for what it is. I love the classic Holmes stories but I also make room for new takes on the great detective. It's only entertainment after all.
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Post by trailboss on Aug 6, 2017 20:27:07 GMT -5
I grew up watching the old Basil Rathbone reruns, so that early impression cemented into my mind who Sherlock should be.
I have never watched the Granada series, I recently asked Acorn TV to run them on their app, they said that it will be discussed in future viewing considerations.
I like Robert Downey, thought he did a great job.
In the newest one, I thought that introducing the nicotine patch was stupid, and that any Sherlock film should be period correct.... but I still enjoy the show Cumberland Stem is a pretty good actor.😉
The American Show "Elementary", based on Sherlock is pretty lame.
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Post by billyklubb on Aug 6, 2017 20:58:18 GMT -5
I grew up watching the old Basil Rathbone reruns, so that early impression cemented into my mind who Sherlock should be. I have never watched the Granada series, I recently asked Acorn TV to run them on their app, they said that it will be discussed in future viewing considerations. I like Robert Downey, thought he did a great job. In the newest one, I thought that introducing the nicotine patch was stupid, and that any Sherlock film should be period correct.... but I still enjoy the show Cumberland Stem is a pretty good actor.😉 The American Show "Elementary", based on Sherlock is pretty lame. In the same vein, Batman should be a tool. Examine the old shows. He and Robin were a couple of tools in tights. I still enjoyed watching the old show, but it was absolute cheese. As far as American spin offs of British shows and such, they tend to be a giant pile of crap. The Office seemed to be an exception. We all get ideas in our minds of how something should be. It's nice to look from a different angle once and a while.
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Post by trailboss on Aug 6, 2017 21:07:53 GMT -5
For years as I was an adult, I thought... "Why don't they rerun the old Batman! Show?, that was great, the ratings would skyrocket!
Then I got Directtv and TvLand.... at last, my dream come true!
I sat and watched it... ya gotta be kidding me!! Cheesy stuff.
But if for no other reason, it had a huge cast of great actors that are no longer with us... so that makes it worth watching.
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Post by crapgame on Aug 9, 2017 12:45:08 GMT -5
I still say Jeremy Britt was the best Sherlock...He portrayed Sherlock the addict, The OCD Sherlock, the Sherlock that at times doubted himself, all of these were portrayed with great realism.
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Post by toshtego on Aug 14, 2017 5:21:36 GMT -5
This new iteration has its virtues but I find it hard to watch. Too much jangle. For me, the team of Rathbone and Bruce define the subject. There have been several credible attempts since the Roy William Neil directed Universal Studios' series. One of the most interesting pairings was George C. Scott and Joanne Woodward in "They Might Be Giants". I am open to a fresh interpretation. Cumberbatch does a credible job of being weird. Freeman makes a solid Watson.
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