|
Post by adui on Sept 11, 2019 15:44:43 GMT -5
Ironically enough it was AFTER I started making attempts to dry my bacy... I will qualify it though, I ate a LOT of toffee coated peanuts yesterday at work, and that made my tongue quite raw to begin with so it was likely more to do with that than the long smoke last night. I'm going to lay off both for a day or three (till Saturday at most) to let my tongue heal so I can thoroughly enjoy the pipe club meeting On drying (yup I did it, to topics in one) How long should I leave the tobacco out in the air? I've left it an hour or three at most and while it seems dry to me, it still produces steam near the end of the smoke if I'm not careful.
|
|
|
Post by McWiggins on Sept 11, 2019 16:27:14 GMT -5
Its really a matter of finding what you like and how wet a blend is. Obviously different blends have different moisture content. So how long to dry will vary. Then you have the part where you learn how dry you like your tobacco and even then what pipe to use. All of this plays a roll in making for that perfect smoke and it can only be learned through a lot of practice.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Location:
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2019 16:36:41 GMT -5
In the interim Terry, try some Biotene mouthwash.
|
|
|
Post by McWiggins on Sept 11, 2019 16:52:33 GMT -5
In the interim Terry, try some Biotene mouthwash. I can honestly say it does help. I had a food item bang up my mouth a bit and pipe smoking was not enjoyable. Biotene helped, not a complete cure but helped in me being able to enjoy a quiet moment.
|
|
Wizard
Junior Member
Posts: 443
First Name: Angel
Favorite Pipe: Stanwell HCA Churchwarden Calabash Rustic, and Peterson Irish Harp with the sterling silver band and black and brown marble stem. And my 8 churchwardens Wizard pipes
Favorite Tobacco: Burley and Latakia blends.
Location:
|
Post by Wizard on Sept 11, 2019 16:58:16 GMT -5
I think most newbies like us get tongue bite until we learn the true fine art of pipe smoking. I just ignore it anymore & chalk it up to my learning curve. Hang in there & you (we) will eventually get it.π§πΌββοΈ
|
|
|
Post by sperrytops on Sept 11, 2019 17:17:10 GMT -5
There are many ways to manage tongue bite. 1) Don't pack too tight. Pulling hard always draws heat in. 2) After you light and take a few puffs, run a pipe cleaner through the stem and shank into the bowl. This frees up the flow tremendously and you can make lighter draws giving you more flavor with less puff. 3) Use narrower bowls. Less surface for the heat to develop on.
Hope this helps. Happy puffing
|
|
|
Post by Cramptholomew on Sept 11, 2019 17:25:40 GMT -5
Pack less than you think seems appropriate. It took me a good while to figure this out. Tamp LIGHTLY and often. Don't freight train it.
I'm not 100% sure I've ever had a real case of tongue bite. I'm not sure what it's supposed to feel like. I have, however, had what I'd call tongue "burnout". Believe it or not, smoking pipes helped with that. I think it's an acclimation thing. If I stop smoking a pipe for days on end, it seems I start the acclimation process over again. Like building a good cake in your mouth. My unorthodox suggestion is to keep smoking.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Location:
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2019 17:37:59 GMT -5
Tongue bite is when your mouth feels like a burnt/singed rug. It is painful and is what causes many new pipers to abandon the effort.
|
|
|
Post by McWiggins on Sept 11, 2019 18:00:27 GMT -5
I've seen things that lead me to believe that Cramptholomew is incapable of tongue bite.
|
|
calabash
Full Member
Posts: 560
Favorite Pipe: Baki meerschaum, 1972 Dunhill
Favorite Tobacco: C & D Yorktown, Stokkebye Luxury Bullseye Flake, Gawith St James Flake
Location:
|
Post by calabash on Sept 11, 2019 18:22:18 GMT -5
Tongue bite is when your mouth feels like a burnt/singed rug. It is painful and is what causes many new pipers to abandon the effort. Glad I haven't experienced this. The closest I come is a slight discomfort similar to drinking coffee that's too hot.
|
|
|
Post by Cramptholomew on Sept 11, 2019 18:40:53 GMT -5
Tongue bite is when your mouth feels like a burnt/singed rug. It is painful and is what causes many new pipers to abandon the effort. Glad I haven't experienced this.Β The closest I come is a slight discomfort similar to drinking coffee that's too hot. Same.
|
|
|
Post by adui on Sept 11, 2019 19:08:31 GMT -5
I'm not going anywhere, I enjoy my pipe to dang much to let this dissuade me! I just thought it ironic that with my relative inexperience, (read basically a noob) I hadn't ever really gotten it. Slight soreness like described above till now, and this time isn't really all that bad.
I do want to experiment with drying times a bit, I've read some actually put the tobacco on a pie tin or cookie sheet and toast it in the oven for a bit to dry it. Not thinking I'll go that far but its intriguing.
Also, I may be over packing. I tend to think I need it firm to keep it lit, but I do notice the draw is harder sometimes because of that. I'll pack lighter on the next pipe, and play with that as well.
|
|
|
Post by Ronv69 on Sept 11, 2019 21:40:03 GMT -5
Almost every normal person gets the tongue bite out of the way with the first bowl.
|
|
|
Post by kxg on Sept 11, 2019 21:46:12 GMT -5
The pack lightly, or lighter than you might assume, theory depends on careful tamping during the smoke; not too much but an appropriate amount to keep your smoke progressing. At least that is my experience. The two things that helped me to more enjoyable smokes weβre packing lighter and realizing that tamping is more than an affectation. Good luck with your journey!
|
|
|
Post by Cramptholomew on Sept 11, 2019 22:02:30 GMT -5
I'm not going anywhere, I enjoy my pipe to dang much to let this dissuade me! I just thought it ironic that with my relative inexperience, (read basically a noob) I hadn't ever really gotten it. Slight soreness like described above till now, and this time isn't really all that bad. I do want to experiment with drying times a bit, I've read some actually put the tobacco on a pie tin or cookie sheet and toast it in the oven for a bit to dry it. Not thinking I'll go that far but its intriguing. Also, I may be over packing. I tend to think I need it firm to keep it lit, but I do notice the draw is harder sometimes because of that. I'll pack lighter on the next pipe, and play with that as well. I've put it on a plate and nuked it for 10-12 seconds. Then I let it sit for a few mins. Give it a try!
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Location:
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2019 1:16:00 GMT -5
and when tamping, draw in at the same time, it helps the burn and releases a bit of nicotine.
|
|
|
Post by Legend Lover on Sept 12, 2019 2:33:53 GMT -5
I'm not going anywhere, I enjoy my pipe to dang much to let this dissuade me! I just thought it ironic that with my relative inexperience, (read basically a noob) I hadn't ever really gotten it. Slight soreness like described above till now, and this time isn't really all that bad. I do want to experiment with drying times a bit, I've read some actually put the tobacco on a pie tin or cookie sheet and toast it in the oven for a bit to dry it. Not thinking I'll go that far but its intriguing. Also, I may be over packing. I tend to think I need it firm to keep it lit, but I do notice the draw is harder sometimes because of that. I'll pack lighter on the next pipe, and play with that as well. I've put it on a plate and nuked it for 10-12 seconds. Then I let it sit for a few mins. Give it a try! That's what I do. 15sec in the microwave does the job for me. I also noticed I only get tongue bite from Virginia-heavy tobacco. What tobacco were you smoking?
|
|
|
Post by trailboss on Sept 12, 2019 8:35:23 GMT -5
That is the way it goes with me also, I can smoke a latakia blend like a freight train and I will never get tongue bite, inattention to cadence while smoking many Virginia's, and I am going to get bitten.
|
|
|
Post by adui on Sept 12, 2019 12:29:15 GMT -5
I also noticed I only get tongue bite from Virginia-heavy tobacco. What tobacco were you smoking? That was my own blending 50/50 of my Black Cavendish from Big Sticks, and the Strawberry delight from Ye Olde Pipe. I haven't a clue what the Cavendish is made from, but they told me at Ye Olde Pipe that the Strawberry was Virginia heavy.
|
|
|
Post by adui on Sept 12, 2019 12:30:50 GMT -5
I've put it on a plate and nuked it for 10-12 seconds. Then I let it sit for a few mins. Give it a try! Sadly, we don't currently own a microwave. When we get one in the near future I might give that a try.For now I might try leaving some in an open tin or plate inside my BBQ where it will get heat from the sun without being exposed to the sun. I never use the thing anyhow so It might as well get SOME purpose. Other than that its either the oven or just air dry.
|
|
|
Post by McWiggins on Sept 12, 2019 12:56:13 GMT -5
I've put it on a plate and nuked it for 10-12 seconds. Then I let it sit for a few mins. Give it a try! Sadly, we don't currently own a microwave. When we get one in the near future I might give that a try.For now I might try leaving some in an open tin or plate inside my BBQ where it will get heat from the sun without being exposed to the sun. I never use the thing anyhow so It might as well get SOME purpose. Other than that its either the oven or just air dry. Even if you dont use your BBQ/Grill, using it just once will leave its mark. That mark will get into your tobacco as well. Just leave it out in your house.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Location:
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2019 13:54:53 GMT -5
imo, your letting this drying issue occupy too much of your time. Have you tried a pouch of Carter Hall or Prince Albert? Either one will be at the right moisture level, will burn evenly without fuss and allow you to enjoy your pipe.
|
|
|
Post by peteguy on Sept 12, 2019 14:46:02 GMT -5
I think the reaction (bite) is a body make up thing as well. The nuts you ate may have had an effect. MacBaren blends, at least most of the blends I have tried, have a bite on them to me. Most Red VA's are like candy to me and I can heat a house with them and not feel a thing.
|
|
Wizard
Junior Member
Posts: 443
First Name: Angel
Favorite Pipe: Stanwell HCA Churchwarden Calabash Rustic, and Peterson Irish Harp with the sterling silver band and black and brown marble stem. And my 8 churchwardens Wizard pipes
Favorite Tobacco: Burley and Latakia blends.
Location:
|
Post by Wizard on Sept 12, 2019 22:35:28 GMT -5
Almost every normal person gets the tongue bite out of the way with the first bowl. So your saying that Iβm not normal lol ππ€ͺππ
π§πΌββοΈ
|
|
|
Post by Ronv69 on Sept 12, 2019 22:37:14 GMT -5
Almost every normal person gets the tongue bite out of the way with the first bowl. So your saying that Iβm not normal lol ππ€ͺππ
π§πΌββοΈ Exactamundo! You are A Superior Specimen! Als8, you are here, aren't you?
|
|
Wizard
Junior Member
Posts: 443
First Name: Angel
Favorite Pipe: Stanwell HCA Churchwarden Calabash Rustic, and Peterson Irish Harp with the sterling silver band and black and brown marble stem. And my 8 churchwardens Wizard pipes
Favorite Tobacco: Burley and Latakia blends.
Location:
|
Post by Wizard on Sept 13, 2019 0:19:54 GMT -5
So your saying that Iβm not normal lol ππ€ͺππ
π§πΌββοΈ Exactamundo! You are A Superior Specimen! Als8, you are here, aren't you? My mind is here, but my body may be in wizardland. You never know! And my fingers on this stupid iPhone are all over the place. Typing isnβt like it used to be.π β¨οΈLolπ§πΌββοΈ
|
|
|
Post by Legend Lover on Sept 13, 2019 3:30:09 GMT -5
I also noticed I only get tongue bite from Virginia-heavy tobacco. What tobacco were you smoking? That was my own blending 50/50 of my Black Cavendish from Big Sticks, and the Strawberry delight from Ye Olde Pipe. I haven't a clue what the Cavendish is made from, but they told me at Ye Olde Pipe that the Strawberry was Virginia heavy. Then I think that's your issue... It could very well be the Virginia. Just pay attention next time you're smoking a Virginia blend.
|
|
|
Post by adui on Sept 13, 2019 11:44:29 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure everything I have right now is Virginia heavy except maybe the navy flake. After some reflection I am also thinking I've been having a very mild bite every smoke. My tongue is always mildly irritated, but not to the degree that it truly bothers me. I'll get some new stuff tomorrow and ask questions to make sure it has little to no Virginia in it.
Kind of a bummer if that ends up being the case, When I smoked my pipe in the 90's I used to buy a bulk blend at a tobacco shop in Lancaster Mall Salem Oregon, T Whittakers if I remember correctly. They literally called that blend Virginia Aromatic. I really liked it.
|
|
Wizard
Junior Member
Posts: 443
First Name: Angel
Favorite Pipe: Stanwell HCA Churchwarden Calabash Rustic, and Peterson Irish Harp with the sterling silver band and black and brown marble stem. And my 8 churchwardens Wizard pipes
Favorite Tobacco: Burley and Latakia blends.
Location:
|
Post by Wizard on Sept 14, 2019 0:40:06 GMT -5
So your saying that Iβm not normal lol ππ€ͺππ
π§πΌββοΈ Exactamundo! You are A Superior Specimen! Als8, you are here, aren't you? AIs8 ? Now I know you think I am an Artificial Inteligents system 8 and my main frame is in wizardland. Exactamundo! Would you like to play a game? Lolπ§πΌββοΈ
|
|
Wizard
Junior Member
Posts: 443
First Name: Angel
Favorite Pipe: Stanwell HCA Churchwarden Calabash Rustic, and Peterson Irish Harp with the sterling silver band and black and brown marble stem. And my 8 churchwardens Wizard pipes
Favorite Tobacco: Burley and Latakia blends.
Location:
|
Post by Wizard on Sept 14, 2019 1:07:15 GMT -5
Oh no 2 posts the same? Error in my system lol π€ͺππ§πΌββοΈ
|
|