‘Death of Tobacco’ Discussion

I plan on growing my own actually this next spring. Ive already got some seeds from some good folks at NWT. Got some Harrow Velvet, Burley 21 , and TN90 for smoke and some Mohawk Rustica for an undecided purpose.

I read this and just assumed that when / if it comes to pass I will have to give up my pipe. I cant really afford to cellar in the quantities I would need to get by once something like this goes into affect.

Told my wife about it this weekend, just making conversation. Her response; "So how would you store a lot of tobacco so it wont go bad?" I smiled and briefly explained what I'm learning about cellaring. Looks like my better half is going to make room in the budget for larger quantities of my favorites!

Why yes. I am a spoiled man; why do you ask?

I read this and just assumed that when / if it comes to pass I will have to give up my pipe. I cant really afford to cellar in the quantities I would need to get by once something like this goes into affect.

Told my wife about it this weekend, just making conversation. Her response; "So how would you store a lot of tobacco so it wont go bad?" I smiled and briefly explained what I'm learning about cellaring. Looks like my better half is going to make room in the budget for larger quantities of my favorites!

Why yes. I am a spoiled man; why do you ask?

Republicans decry any regulation no matter how reasonable and Democrats advocate prohibition no matter how unreasonable. This is why the US Congress is the least popular legislative body in the world. Anybody who says ‘the other party is the problem/solution’ is merely an ignorant partisan cheerleader that has offloaded the responsibility to think critically to National Party planners and propagandists and whose sole remaining function in this kakistocratic body politic is as sphincter to pinch the policy loaves of pernicious plutocrats.

Snoogens!

   Propaganda comes in many forms and can take on different colors and hues . A few themes, most commonly found among those who see the crisis in our political culture, appear in parts of the post by @kramerica and   others. These ideas are not new, appear on many forums (kind of like a collective talking point) and resonate with many because of our common frustration with the current politic. Such thoughts can potentially be as binding and blinding as the “ignorant partisan cheerleader that has offloaded the responsibility to think critically ” . At times one party has a better solution, supports a view point or contention similar to one's own position than the other party. The best way to know where things stand is to study the issue and separate oneself from as much noise, propaganda etc. as possible, taking on the issues on a case by case basis. Kicking up dust and ranting about the current state of politics is very cathartic, but sadly it typically changes little if anything and is often not very productive in exploring the specific issues at hand. 


   There are things that I fear from both the ideological left and right. The political parties also have their issues and problems. Of this there can be no doubt. However, the act empowering the FDA to regulate smoking products was passed through the efforts of one party. It also appears there is more support in the other party for smokers rights. Is there enough support? Well I am not holding my breath. However, I will say if the power granted to the FDA to regulate tobacco is to be curtailed (maybe possible) or derailed (very doubtful....impossible) in Congress, one party (or should I say a larger number of House and Senate members from said party.)  is more likely to lead the charge than the other. To remove the smell of partisanship and the usual "politics", I will also say there are individuals in both parties who might help move the process along. So  lets not make this thread "political" (in accordance with Patch rules), but throw our weight behind folks who will support our cause from whatever party they might come from. If you are Democrat, Republican, Libertarian etc. who cares...  We all can support  legislation that helps protect this hobby. 

I think the best thing to grow is just Virginia.

Grow good Virginia and you can dry it and smoke it just like that.

Naturally sweet. Needs nothing added to it. Delicious

   Propaganda comes in many forms and can take on different colors and hues . A few themes, most commonly found among those who see the crisis in our political culture, appear in parts of the post by @kramerica and   others. These ideas are not new, appear on many forums (kind of like a collective talking point) and resonate with many because of our common frustration with the current politic. Such thoughts can potentially be as binding and blinding as the “ignorant partisan cheerleader that has offloaded the responsibility to think critically ” . At times one party has a better solution, supports a view point or contention similar to one's own position than the other party. The best way to know where things stand is to study the issue and separate oneself from as much noise, propaganda etc. as possible, taking on the issues on a case by case basis. Kicking up dust and ranting about the current state of politics is very cathartic, but sadly it typically changes little if anything and is often not very productive in exploring the specific issues at hand. 


   There are things that I fear from both the ideological left and right. The political parties also have their issues and problems. Of this there can be no doubt. However, the act empowering the FDA to regulate smoking products was passed through the efforts of one party. It also appears there is more support in the other party for smokers rights. Is there enough support? Well I am not holding my breath. However, I will say if the power granted to the FDA to regulate tobacco is to be curtailed (maybe possible) or derailed (very doubtful....impossible) in Congress, one party (or should I say a larger number of House and Senate members from said party.)  is more likely to lead the charge than the other. To remove the smell of partisanship and the usual "politics", I will also say there are individuals in both parties who might help move the process along. So  lets not make this thread "political" (in accordance with Patch rules), but throw our weight behind folks who will support our cause from whatever party they might come from. If you are Democrat, Republican, Libertarian etc. who cares...  We all can support  legislation that helps protect this hobby. 

GROW ACDC!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You have never tried to grow the proper hemp it is not easy. Now tobacco grows really well in the swamp as I had no trouble growing Virginia many years back when we still had the big house. Problem was I didn't have a clue on how to cure it so I ended up hanging it inside a small shed out in the back yard. It was just ok and I learned the growing was the easy part.

I am sure that you have plenty of time to cellar, we as a group tend to cry that the sky is falling.

Market forces I would think play a larger role in blends being pulled from the market, but the anti tobacco trajectory is on an unfriendly trajectory... the pricing and availability will never be better.

I have a supply of tobacco to last longer than I am likely to live, but I am starting to think that if I live much longer than I expect I will run out of the good stuff. Hence, I am going to lay in a couple dozen more tins just in case. I will save one tin of FMC to go with me to the incinerator. An offering of my best tobacco to carry my soul to the Creator.