dom93
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Post by dom93 on Dec 9, 2020 14:53:00 GMT -5
Hi pipe fellows!
I just tried to smoke the remaining of a nice cigar that I got as gift in my pipe, but I wasn't so happy with the result. I had to light up the pipe very often and the taste was not even close to the cigar I smoke before. I just smashed the remaining of the cigar and load the pipe trying to reduce the size of the bigger leafs. Should I have done it differently?
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Post by sparks on Dec 9, 2020 15:03:04 GMT -5
Some of what makes a cigar taste the way it does is how it's wrapped. Essentially the maker is layering the flavors for you. Deconstructing the cigar and just throwing it in the bowl will never yield anything close to the experience of the cigar itself.
What many will do is find a pipe that has a bowl that can accommodate the ring gauge of the cigar, and just drop the cigar nub in one piece into the bowl.
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Post by Darin on Dec 9, 2020 15:10:31 GMT -5
Once a cigar is smoked all the way down to the nub, it's time to let it go. Relights at that point are rarely good.
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Post by sperrytops on Dec 9, 2020 15:21:40 GMT -5
Thgeren are tobacco blends that use cigar leaf. You might try one of those.
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Post by trailboss on Dec 9, 2020 15:27:45 GMT -5
All three Hombres above me made good points.
A bit off topic.. I have really come to appreciate a good cigar. It will never take the place of a pipe, and a pipe will never take the place of a cigar.
Smoking a pipe as a change of pace for a cigar smoker can really help the budget out though.
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Post by briarbuck on Dec 9, 2020 15:32:31 GMT -5
I have done it. But it has to be a special cigar to make it worth my time to finish off inside a pipe. That's one in a hundred cigars.
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Post by taiguy66 on Dec 9, 2020 21:20:18 GMT -5
All three Hombres above me made good points. A bit off topic.. I have really come to appreciate a good cigar. It will never take the place of a pipe, and a pipe will never take the place of a cigar. Smoking a pipe as a change of pace for a cigar smoker can really help the budget out though. Great points all around. Maybe it’s just me but why would you do this in the first place? Sorry, not trying to be a smart a$$ but I’m just a purist. When I have a cigar I smoke it as is. Same goes for a pipe. |
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Post by trailboss on Dec 9, 2020 21:25:02 GMT -5
All three Hombres above me made good points. A bit off topic.. I have really come to appreciate a good cigar. It will never take the place of a pipe, and a pipe will never take the place of a cigar. Smoking a pipe as a change of pace for a cigar smoker can really help the budget out though. Great points all around. Maybe it’s just me but why would you do this in the first place? Sorry, not trying to be a smart a$$ but I’m just a purist. When I have a cigar I smoke it as is. Same goes for a pipe. He was attempting to enjoy the last of an enjoyable cigar without burning his fingers. |
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Post by lizardonarock on Dec 9, 2020 21:25:53 GMT -5
Well when you clip the cap it goes into the jar with the PS701.
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Post by username on Dec 9, 2020 21:27:52 GMT -5
I’ve done it before with a really good cigar. But your right it doesn’t taste the same.
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Post by dom93 on Dec 10, 2020 1:26:17 GMT -5
All three Hombres above me made good points. A bit off topic.. I have really come to appreciate a good cigar. It will never take the place of a pipe, and a pipe will never take the place of a cigar. Smoking a pipe as a change of pace for a cigar smoker can really help the budget out though. Great points all around. Maybe it’s just me but why would you do this in the first place? Sorry, not trying to be a smart a$$ but I’m just a purist. When I have a cigar I smoke it as is. Same goes for a pipe. In fact, it was more for the sake of curiosity than a real necessity. I think I heard that somebody was doing it occasionally and I wanted to see if it was worthy  Given the answers here and my experience, I would conclude that it isn't |
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Post by trailboss on Dec 10, 2020 1:34:40 GMT -5
Even cigar leaf blends for the pipe can be hit and miss for me.
McClelland had a Dominican Glory Maduro that I really like, but the Dominican Glory I thought was a dog.
If you like plain Glory, remember, tastes are subjective.
The only tin I have cellared of them is the Plain Glory, I am hoping that time is it’s friend.
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Post by calabash on Dec 10, 2020 5:24:43 GMT -5
Most of the flavor from a cigar comes from the wrapper. I suppose if you nailed the wrapper/filler ratio, it might be OK. Interesting experiment anyway.
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Post by pappyjoe on Dec 10, 2020 8:11:19 GMT -5
My opinion, and I have no scientific data to back it up, but...
When you are smoking a cigar, you stick it in your mouth and the cigar starts absorbing the moisture in your mouth. If somehow your cigar goes out (I can't remember it actually happening to me before I finished the cigar.) and your relight it immediately, it's still a good smoke. If you put the cigar down and it sits for a half hour before you relight it taste terrible. My theory is that the moisture spreads and sours the tobacco.
You can have your pipe go out and come back to it a hour or so later and it will still be a good smoke. Why, because the moisture from the smoke and your mouth collects in the stem and shank and not in the tobacco itself.
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Post by trailboss on Dec 10, 2020 10:05:25 GMT -5
Sounds logical to me, Pappyjoe.
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Post by Darin on Dec 10, 2020 10:19:43 GMT -5
Most of the flavor from a cigar comes from the wrapper. I suppose if you nailed the wrapper/filler ratio, it might be OK. Interesting experiment anyway. Going to have to disagree with that ... the filler blend is where most flavors are derived unless it's a very small ring gauge. |
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Post by taiguy66 on Dec 10, 2020 11:05:35 GMT -5
Most of the flavor from a cigar comes from the wrapper. I suppose if you nailed the wrapper/filler ratio, it might be OK. Interesting experiment anyway. Going to have to disagree with that ... the filler blend is where most flavors are derived unless it's a very small ring gauge. Absolutely! It’s the binder and filler that “makes” the cigar. The wrapper is used to keep the first two parts together and for aesthetic purposes ie. barber pole, box pressed, torpedo..... |
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Post by calabash on Dec 10, 2020 11:45:51 GMT -5
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Post by Darin on Dec 10, 2020 12:31:34 GMT -5
I've rolled close to a couple hundred of my own cigars and have learned that what the wrapper contributes depends on several factors. It's overall strength of flavor, to begin with, is primary. This strength, in ratio to that of both the filler and binder strengths, will vary considerably by ring gauge. For example, an Indonesian leaf like Bezuki will add very little to the overall taste of a 50+ ring gauge cigar as a wrapper. However, used as a double binder on a 42-46 ring gauge cigar, it adds a lot.
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Post by chasingembers on Dec 10, 2020 17:28:13 GMT -5
All three Hombres above me made good points. A bit off topic.. I have really come to appreciate a good cigar. It will never take the place of a pipe, and a pipe will never take the place of a cigar. Smoking a pipe as a change of pace for a cigar smoker can really help the budget out though. Great points all around. Maybe it’s just me but why would you do this in the first place? Sorry, not trying to be a smart a$$ but I’m just a purist. When I have a cigar I smoke it as is. Same goes for a pipe. Because it's all just tobacco.Ever see a cheroot holder?  |
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Post by chasingembers on Dec 10, 2020 17:29:52 GMT -5
My opinion, and I have no scientific data to back it up, but... When you are smoking a cigar, you stick it in your mouth and the cigar starts absorbing the moisture in your mouth. If somehow your cigar goes out (I can't remember it actually happening to me before I finished the cigar.) and your relight it immediately, it's still a good smoke. If you put the cigar down and it sits for a half hour before you relight it taste terrible. My theory is that the moisture spreads and sours the tobacco. You can have your pipe go out and come back to it a hour or so later and it will still be a good smoke. Why, because the moisture from the smoke and your mouth collects in the stem and shank and not in the tobacco itself. Cut the burned end off before putting it down and forcefully blow through it. It will be fine later. |
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