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Post by trailboss on Dec 14, 2020 18:42:17 GMT -5
The dirtbags out that want to prey on sheep.
(at least what they perceive as sheep)
In about 2005, I had a daughter that is so attractive that even though she was modest in appearance, guys heads would snap on a swivel.
She had one drawback, especially when driving she would have tunnel vision.
I registered her with an NRA sanctioned "refuse to be a victim" class. There was no gun training involved, it was just about situational awareness and how to prevent yourself from being a victim, she soaked it up.
Two weeks later she was in a grocery store and noticed that every aisle she was in, so was the same guy.
When she checked out, he was in another checkout lane.
She went to her car, so did he.
She drove from the lot, so did he.
She drove to a strange neighborhood instead of her own so did he.
She made several turns, so did he.
She called 911 to say that she was being followed, the cops pulled the guy over.
Later she asked the cop if he was a bad guy, they told her that he was a guy "with a checkered past" but since he committed no crime, they could not release his name.
Fast forward to today, on a social media post:
My daughter carries a .45 and is lightning fast on the Mozambique drill, but avoidance is far better than dealing with the complexities of taking a life, putting the kids in unnecessary danger, and legal ramifications of taking the trash out.
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Post by lestrout on Dec 14, 2020 18:56:57 GMT -5
Yo Charlie - good tip about taking that NRA class to improve situational awareness. A good buddy tells his womenfolk, in the interests of avoiding sketchy situations, to always refill the car gas tank when half full and not to go to the gas station after dark.
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Post by Plainsman on Dec 14, 2020 19:25:31 GMT -5
Swift on the Mozambique is good. Speed on the “I’m getting out of here!” is even better. Be safe, my friends.They ARE out there.
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Post by trailboss on Dec 14, 2020 19:35:53 GMT -5
Yo Charlie - good tip about taking that NRA class to improve situational awareness. A good buddy tells his womenfolk, in the interests of avoiding sketchy situations, to always refill the car gas tank when half full and not to go to the gas station after dark. hp les  Also, do not be distracted when in parking lots. Don't have your hands full, purse goes in the car before groceries, and more importantly no distractions. Cell phone calls can wait. Making eye contact with a predator with a "don't screw with me look" is important. They really aren't wolves, they are sickly coyotes looking for easy pickins. |
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Post by instymp on Dec 14, 2020 19:36:28 GMT -5
If you dont mind being personal, what does she carry?
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Post by trailboss on Dec 14, 2020 19:39:18 GMT -5
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Post by taiguy66 on Dec 14, 2020 20:19:14 GMT -5
The dirtbags out that want to prey on sheep. (at least what they perceive as sheep)
In about 2005, I had a daughter that is so attractive that even though she was modest in appearance, guys heads would snap on a swivel. She had one drawback, especially when driving she would have tunnel vision. I registered her with an NRA sanctioned "refuse to be a victim" class. There was no gun training involved, it was just about situational awareness and how to prevent yourself from being a victim, she soaked it up. Two weeks later she was in a grocery store and noticed that every aisle she was in, so was the same guy. When she checked out, he was in another checkout lane. She went to her car, so did he. She drove from the lot, so did he. She drove to a strange neighborhood instead of her own so did he. She made several turns, so did he. She called 911 to say that she was being followed, the cops pulled the guy over. Later she asked the cop if he was a bad guy, they told her that he was a guy "with a checkered past" but since he committed no crime, they could not release his name. Fast forward to today, on a social media post: My daughter carries a .45 and is lightning fast on the Mozambique drill, but avoidance is far better than dealing with the complexities of taking a life, putting the kids in unnecessary danger, and legal ramifications of taking the trash out. Wow... scary indeed on both counts. Good to hear your daughter is safe and did the right thing calling the police. Situational Awareness indeed. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Dec 14, 2020 21:02:21 GMT -5
Man, my old wrists couldn't take the pounding from practicing with that pistol. I can only shoot a couple of mags through my 1911 these days. I used to shoot 100 rounds a day 50 years ago.
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Post by trailboss on Dec 14, 2020 21:08:51 GMT -5
Man, my old wrists couldn't take the pounding from practicing with that pistol. I can only shoot a couple of mags through my 1911 these days. I used to shoot 100 rounds a day 50 years ago. “old man take a look at me, I’m a lot like you” Just in the last week, Arthur Itis showed up on my doorstep, and my wrists answer the door. |
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Post by toshtego on Dec 14, 2020 21:11:09 GMT -5
Yo Charlie - good tip about taking that NRA class to improve situational awareness. A good buddy tells his womenfolk, in the interests of avoiding sketchy situations, to always refill the car gas tank when half full and not to go to the gas station after dark. hp les Also, do not be distracted when in parking lots. Don't have your hands full, purse goes in the car before groceries, and more importantly no distractions. Cell phone calls can wait. Making eye contact with a predator with a "don't screw with me look" is important. They really aren't wolves, they are sickly coyotes looking for easy pickins. The grocery store I shop at in the town of Toad is notorious for low life characters seeking prey. When I return to the truck to stow my groceries and have my back to the world. There is a Kabar in my teeth. You think I am kidding? Think again. A Tanto Point. I used to have a Truckman Ax handy but that does not have the same effect when I am hassled for spare change by someone behind me and I turn around with knife in teeth. Try it. You will be impressed. |
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Post by trailboss on Dec 14, 2020 21:19:22 GMT -5
Man, my old wrists couldn't take the pounding from practicing with that pistol. I can only shoot a couple of mags through my 1911 these days. I used to shoot 100 rounds a day 50 years ago. To be fair though Ron, the .45 in a striker fired polymer is softer than a 1911. |
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Post by pepesdad1 on Dec 14, 2020 21:25:11 GMT -5
situational awareness is something that you need to practice every time you are out...That has been my thought every time I am out in the public sphere...you never know what can happen and you need to stay alert to any possible situations where you may need to take action fast.
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Post by Plainsman on Dec 14, 2020 21:31:40 GMT -5
Man, my old wrists couldn't take the pounding from practicing with that pistol. I can only shoot a couple of mags through my 1911 these days. I used to shoot 100 rounds a day 50 years ago. To be fair though Ron, the .45 in a striker fired polymer is softer than a 1911. This is true. (I have a Shield 45.) But I still prefer the 1911, if possible in an alloy-frame Commander-size with night sights. The perfect EDC IMO. |
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Post by puffy on Dec 14, 2020 22:01:30 GMT -5
About 2 years ago was the last time I was out after dark.I went to the store.I mentioned to a young fella (cashier) that I don't like being out after dark..He told me that if I see something I don't like come back in the store..He would push a button and the cops would be there in 2 minutes..These days if I had to be out at after dark I would carry.
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Post by instymp on Dec 15, 2020 8:38:59 GMT -5
Very nice. Mine isn't the Perfomance Center model, but like mine a lot. Points like a Colt 1911. Great guns. |
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Post by briarbuck on Dec 15, 2020 9:27:08 GMT -5
Love my S&W Shield 9mm. Get my ccp next week.
I have 2 daughters. This is good advise. Dudes are pervs.
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Post by toshtego on Dec 15, 2020 10:37:30 GMT -5
Years ago, I gave my wife a Colt Detective Special. This replaced a Webley Mark IV she had. She is a better shot with the Colt because of the trigger.
All women who are responsible enough should be armed.
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Post by toshtego on Dec 15, 2020 10:42:38 GMT -5
Man, my old wrists couldn't take the pounding from practicing with that pistol. I can only shoot a couple of mags through my 1911 these days. I used to shoot 100 rounds a day 50 years ago. To be fair though Ron, the .45 in a striker fired polymer is softer than a 1911. For me, for what it is worth, the 1911 fits in my hand so perfectly I would never consider any other automatic, except the 1905/1908. I owned three different Walther models. |
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Post by Plainsman on Dec 15, 2020 12:55:04 GMT -5
Years ago, I gave my wife a Colt Detective Special. This replaced a Webley Mark IV she had. She is a better shot with the Colt because of the trigger. All women who are responsible enough should be armed. Couldn't agree with you more about gals and guns. In '85 I got my instructor certification for Pistol, and Handgun Self Defense. Hands-down my best students were female. The guys often came with attitude.("I'm a guy. That stuff is in my DNA!" or "I'm a natural gunfighter! I don't need no instruction!" Etc.) The ladies came to learn, no pre-conceptions, no chips on their shoulders. They were a pleasure to work with and some of them, got to be really good.
(About a year before this event happened I had given my wife a M60 S&W snubbie. She got her CCW. We were shooting at the FOP range when two Statie detectives showed up to shoot. They thought they would have some fun so asked if she would like to shoot her "popgun" on their standard qual course which they were there to practice for. Sure why not? She beat both of them by a wide margin and they were using 4" Glocks. Was I happy? Guess.)
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Post by Ronv69 on Dec 15, 2020 13:08:56 GMT -5
Both of my wives were excellent shots. This led me to sell all of my guns before filing for divorce from the first one. Present wife just lost interest. I sold my Contender without realizing it was her favorite gun. 😞
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Post by Gypo on Dec 15, 2020 13:12:32 GMT -5
Woman make grate shooters. When my wife and I were dating almost 20 years ago. I picked up a Ruger Super Redhawk from a widow I knew her husband used to work for my dad. Did paperwork got it home and put up half human target told the girl friend this one has a little recoil she put the first one in the abdomen area and the next 5 right in same nice group. About 3-4 inch group at maybe 15 yards. I married that one!
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Post by Plainsman on Dec 15, 2020 13:42:11 GMT -5
My choice for EDC. While 9mm ballistic advances have made that platform a good tool, I still can't shed my preference for the 115-year-old Browning cartridge and design. I believe I may have mention before... "the 9mm may expand, but the .45 will not shrink." Confidence is an essential part of the self-defense equation IMO. I don't feel I have any reason not to have it.
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Post by trailboss on Dec 15, 2020 15:54:10 GMT -5
That is what I hear from basically every firearms/ CCW instructor that I have ever crossed paths with.
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Post by Gandalf on Dec 15, 2020 23:50:11 GMT -5
On several points in this thread:
Situational awareness - it is key. Just letting the scumbag know you are aware of him is many times enough to deter an incident. Personally, I know I don't practice it enough. I should make it my new years resolution to make it automatic 100% of the time.
1911 owners swear by them. I've never owned one. Maybe I will some day.
I fired a few rounds out of a friends 1911 style Kimber once. It seemed to operate very smoothly.
Personally, I own and shoot so many polymer frame, striker fired handguns, I think I'd find it "odd" to shoot any other type of gun.
I shoot in a pistol league and one time I decided I'd shoot with an "old" Beretta 92F. It's hard to explain, but it was different enough from my striker fired guns, that I couldn't handle it as smoothly, as instinctively. After 2 or 3 weeks, I switched to a Springfield Armory XDm.
All my striker fired guns operate the same. I can pick any of them up and shoot, reload, clear failures without thinking about it. Since my concealed carry is a striker fired gun, it's best that I stay with what I've become accustomed to.
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Post by Plainsman on Dec 16, 2020 9:02:09 GMT -5
Makes perfect sense, Gandalf. I only have two striker-fired pistols and have no complaints, except for my S&W Shield not having a safety. Growing up with 1911s I just have trouble with a pistol has no safety. Thus my Shield, altho a 45 and has night-sights, is probably my least carried handgun.
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Post by Ronv69 on Dec 16, 2020 14:10:25 GMT -5
I have been shooting a 1911 since I was 14. After 56 years I am kind of used to it. I have one polymer frame gun, a Ruger LCP. No complaints, but my all metal R51 9mm is just a bit heavier and a lot better to shoot. No safety though.
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Post by trailboss on Dec 16, 2020 14:51:49 GMT -5
A Ruger LCP isn’t a bad choice for a backup gun, but for for my paws it is way too small. I lost mine years ago, I had it in a Desantis pocket holster and I think it slipped out of my back pocket somewhere.
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Post by Ronv69 on Dec 16, 2020 16:14:31 GMT -5
A Ruger LCP isn’t a bad choice for a backup gun, but for for my paws it is way too small. I lost mine years ago, I had it in a Desantis pocket holster and I think it slipped out of my back pocket somewhere. Mines in a jean jacket inside pocket in a leather pocket holster. It's hard enough to get out when I want it, but at least I won't lose it. 😏 I find it very easy to shoot and accurate at SD distance. The R51 is more accurate for me, say headshot at 50 yards. The LCP is COM at 7 yards. |
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Post by trailboss on Dec 16, 2020 17:35:47 GMT -5
If you are doing your part, the LCP can shoot very well, I saw one of the hotshot shooters make some impressive hits out of the box.
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Post by toshtego on Dec 16, 2020 17:47:54 GMT -5
My choice for EDC. While 9mm ballistic advances have made that platform a good tool, I still can't shed my preference for the 115-year-old Browning cartridge and design. I believe I may have mention before... "the 9mm may expand, but the .45 will not shrink." Confidence is an essential part of the self-defense equation IMO. I don't feel I have any reason not to have it.
It is easy to have confidence in a well made 1911 in .45ACP. Battle tested over time. It is critical there be no doubts, no hesitation, no questions when the situation calls for that kind of action. I had a Kimber something like that years ago. Never had any trouble with it. It was my CCW and lived on my belt. |
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