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Post by Plainsman on Dec 17, 2020 0:13:38 GMT -5
When you make the decision to “carry,” you carry, always. It’s like a fire extinguisher in your vehicle— on what day do you leave it at home because you won’t be needing it? I don’t carry so much for myself as that I don’t want to have to live with the thought that I might have made a differnce but didn’t have the tool for the job.
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Post by trailboss on Dec 17, 2020 0:19:07 GMT -5
Well said.
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Post by Legend Lover on Dec 17, 2020 5:59:19 GMT -5
Really interesting lesson that your daughter was taught at that class!
I've heard people talking about 1911s a lot...I've not heard much about Glock. They seem more common over here (not that gun carrying is a thing)...but it's standard issue in the police. Are Glocks not as big in America (I don't mean physically)?
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Post by username on Dec 17, 2020 9:38:03 GMT -5
Really interesting lesson that your daughter was taught at that class! I've heard people talking about 1911s a lot...I've not heard much about Glock. They seem more common over here (not that gun carrying is a thing)...but it's standard issue in the police. Are Glocks not as big in America (I don't mean physically)? glocks are very popular in the states. Especially since you can find a police trade ins for cheap. You really don’t here people talk much about them becouse to be honest asceticly they are pretty ugly. I loved the ones I have owned. Always go bang and never had any issues. |
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Post by Legend Lover on Dec 17, 2020 9:53:08 GMT -5
Really interesting lesson that your daughter was taught at that class! I've heard people talking about 1911s a lot...I've not heard much about Glock. They seem more common over here (not that gun carrying is a thing)...but it's standard issue in the police. Are Glocks not as big in America (I don't mean physically)? glocks are very popular in the states. Especially since you can find a police trade ins for cheap. You really don’t here people talk much about them becouse to be honest asceticly they are pretty ugly. I loved the ones I have owned. Always go bang and never had any issues. "Always go bang" Brilliant. |
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Post by Plainsman on Dec 17, 2020 10:18:40 GMT -5
I haven’t been back to the Six Counties in quite a while, but the last NI police officer I saw was carrying a Ruger revolver. They have since changed over. Gardai in the Republic are not usually armed.
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Post by Ronv69 on Dec 17, 2020 11:07:48 GMT -5
I've never had a 1911 that was broken in and properly lubed and cleaned. However, for the person who isn't "into" guns and taking care of their equipment, and probably most cops, the Glock is probably a better choice than the 1911.
It's like a steel vault compared to a Pelican case. Both quality pieces, but different.
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Post by Plainsman on Dec 17, 2020 12:53:12 GMT -5
Glocks are excellent pistols for non-gun people. They are well made, durable, relatively easy to shoot, and tend to be reliable. Most police officers are not “gun people” and very few of them take even minimal care of their weapons. Glocks thrive with that kind of abuse. 1911s are, for the most part, more accurate, simpler mechanically, and just as reliable when properly cared for. And... they are not made out of plastic.  |
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Post by toshtego on Dec 17, 2020 13:39:19 GMT -5
I haven’t been back to the Six Counties in quite a while, but the last NI police officer I saw was carrying a Ruger revolver. They have since changed over. Gardai in the Republic are not usually armed. My recollection of the Gardai in Dublin back in 1972 was they were all large men. Did not need guns as they would just take them away from perps and bite off the barrel. I was impressed by the way they removed a customer from Davey Bryne's Restaurant and Pub. One who had too good a time and passed out in his seat. The Gardai brought in a straight back oak chair. Lifted the unconscious customer and sat him in the chair. Strapped his torso, legs and arms . Hefted the chair up into the air and two officers carried him out by each grasping two chair legs. Not a glass was knocked over, or any thing disturbed on any other diner's table including the diners. |
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Post by toshtego on Dec 17, 2020 13:44:35 GMT -5
Glocks are excellent pistols for non-gun people. They are well made, durable, relatively easy to shoot, and tend to be reliable. Most police officers are not “gun people” and very few of them take even minimal care of their weapons. Glocks thrive with that kind of abuse. 1911s are, for the most part, more accurate, simpler mechanically, and just as reliable when properly cared for. And... they are not made out of plastic. Ture that. The ones I have known including, including my Great Uncle, did not enjoy them anymore than toilet paper. Saw them as a similar necessity. I had a NMSP Officer, a Navaho lady, tell me she did not know anything about them. She was investigating a gun burglary at my place. Of course, that is an old Law Officer technique, claiming to know nothing. |
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Post by Plainsman on Dec 17, 2020 13:58:21 GMT -5
The Republican Garda Siochana (“Guardians of the Peace”) is traditionally an unarmed force. They are also traditionally respected and supported by the public. Laying hands on one is almost unthinkable. In my adopted area an unnamed rock star who had moved to the area had two brothers who were notorious lay-abouts. One day they made the mistake of assaulting the local Guard. The backlash from the public in this tiny village drove the whole family out— despite a recently built multi-million euro mansion. What makes this even more interesting is that the Gardai do NOT post individual Guards to their home areas, so every Guard is a “stranger” in his assigned bailiwick. Nevertheless, you do not lay hands on a member of the Gardai.
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Post by Gandalf on Dec 17, 2020 20:27:14 GMT -5
When you make the decision to “carry,” you carry, always. It’s like a fire extinguisher in your vehicle— on what day do you leave it at home because you won’t be needing it? I don’t carry so much for myself as that I don’t want to have to live with the thought that I might have made a differnce but didn’t have the tool for the job. Absolutely. I carry all day every day. People ask me why I carry when I'm at home. Because most self defense shootings happen in your own home - or on your own property! |
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Post by toshtego on Dec 17, 2020 20:37:18 GMT -5
What a day!
Went to Toad for groceries and was knocked about like a bowling pin. I am 6'3" and well over 300 pounds. I stood no chance when determined women want to shop. Look out, Scout!!! I am too slow and clumsy in my movements to compete in the modern supermarket arena! Carts slamming into me. Exasperated sighs as I try to retrieve what I dropped on the floor because my arthritic hands cannot grasp items. I am getting too feeble for this. You know what happens when someone crowds an old boar bear? Trouble coming.
Did not stop to eat a meal. Fled the town as soon as possible.
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Post by Gandalf on Dec 17, 2020 20:42:42 GMT -5
Really interesting lesson that your daughter was taught at that class! I've heard people talking about 1911s a lot...I've not heard much about Glock. They seem more common over here (not that gun carrying is a thing)...but it's standard issue in the police. Are Glocks not as big in America (I don't mean physically)? I like Glocks. There are plenty of Glocks in America. I have 2, one very recently acquired. They are a very good, reliable, accurate gun. My concealed carry weapon is a Glock 26. Been carrying it for 6 years. If I remember right, they only have something like 67 parts to the entire gun. That's quite a bit less than most handguns. Fewer parts. Simpler operation. Less that can go wrong when you need it. Here's my concealed carry requalification target - using the Glock 26 - March 2019. Shoots nice for a 3.4" barrel (including chamber).  |
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Post by Plainsman on Dec 17, 2020 21:04:18 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2020 10:43:52 GMT -5
As the pandemic got rolling, I realized I was going to have to sell most of my handguns. It wasn't that big of a deal, but it took me a long time to decide which ones stayed. The Sig P320 and 1983 Sig P226 were the two I chose to keep. I don't use the P226 for anything but the range, but how could you sell such a gun? But for self-defense, I feel very safe with the P320. Having to make such decisions really makes you think about why you have a gun.
I also saved (maybe temporarily) a S&W 686+ because otherwise what would I do with all those boxes of .357 ammo?
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Post by Gypo on Dec 18, 2020 10:56:53 GMT -5
Meercat I feel bad for you having to sell guns. Years ago after a failed marriage I ended up with a few things sent to stay with my brother all my guns and about 6 rubbermade trash cans in the back of my old pickup. I hope you don't have to sell anymore gun's!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2020 11:59:19 GMT -5
Meercat I feel bad for you having to sell guns. Years ago after a failed marriage I ended up with a few things sent to stay with my brother all my guns and about 6 rubbermade trash cans in the back of my old pickup. I hope you don't have to sell anymore gun's! Thanks for the good thoughts - I don't have to sell any more of them. All the guns I sold were collectible revolvers, but I rotated each of them through the range bag and all were great shooters. Still - they were extra stuff. I don't look at my Sigs that way. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Dec 18, 2020 16:13:19 GMT -5
Had to sell the guns several times over the years. Hard times come to us all.
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Post by toshtego on Dec 18, 2020 16:44:22 GMT -5
Had to sell the guns several times over the years. Hard times come to us all. Been there. Done that. Still sad about it. |
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Post by Plainsman on Dec 18, 2020 17:02:24 GMT -5
I sell children and wives before guns. Never guns, or dogs.
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Post by toshtego on Dec 18, 2020 17:41:05 GMT -5
I sell children and wives before guns. Never guns, or dogs. I had no choice. Very sad time for me. |
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Post by Plainsman on Dec 18, 2020 17:52:53 GMT -5
I sell children and wives before guns. Never guns, or dogs. I had no choice. Very sad time for me. Jokes aside, sorry to hear that. We do what we have to do. :^( |
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