jcurtis55
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First Name: Jeff
Favorite Pipe: Winslow Crown Viking
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Post by jcurtis55 on Jan 19, 2021 22:27:43 GMT -5
Wouldn't want to smoke it, but what a piece of work based on the painting of the Battle of Bunker Hill. Carved by Gustav Fischer  |
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 20, 2021 0:30:37 GMT -5
Extraordinary carving. Ugly pipe.
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Post by urbino on Jan 20, 2021 2:27:15 GMT -5
Bet it smokes cool, though!
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Post by Legend Lover on Jan 20, 2021 8:16:10 GMT -5
Extraordinary...but the bowl doesn't look big enough to hold much tobacco. It looks like it wasn't really supposed to be a pipe, which makes me wonder, why carve it to look like one?
I could be wrong though. Maybe the carver thought this would be the perfect pipe.
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 20, 2021 8:50:27 GMT -5
The artist had to find an object that could host such a niche artwork. Aha! A pipe! Why not a pipe?
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Post by Legend Lover on Jan 20, 2021 9:27:47 GMT -5
The artist had to find an object that could host such a niche artwork. Aha! A pipe! Why not a pipe?  |
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Post by sperrytops on Jan 20, 2021 13:03:12 GMT -5
Wouldn't want to smoke it, but what a piece of work based on the painting of the Battle of Bunker Hill. Carved by Gustav Fischer That's an amazing piece of work. I wouldn't smoke it either. |
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calabash
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Favorite Pipe: Baki meerschaum, 1972 Dunhill
Favorite Tobacco: C & D Yorktown, Stokkebye Luxury Bullseye Flake, Gawith St James Flake
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Post by calabash on Jan 20, 2021 16:28:42 GMT -5
Wouldn't want to smoke it, but what a piece of work based on the painting of the Battle of Bunker Hill. Carved by Gustav Fischer It would be interesting to see how long it would take to develop a patina. |
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Post by kxg on Jan 20, 2021 16:30:49 GMT -5
It must have been interesting to drill.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 20, 2021 16:39:48 GMT -5
I don't think that I could hold it without breaking it.
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Post by daveinlax on Jan 20, 2021 16:54:04 GMT -5
Extraordinary...but the bowl doesn't look big enough to hold much tobacco. It looks like it wasn't really supposed to be a pipe, which makes me wonder, why carve it to look like one? I could be wrong though. Maybe the carver thought this would be the perfect pipe. I think it might be a Cheroot/Cigar holder but I really don’t know.  |
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calabash
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Posts: 560
Favorite Pipe: Baki meerschaum, 1972 Dunhill
Favorite Tobacco: C & D Yorktown, Stokkebye Luxury Bullseye Flake, Gawith St James Flake
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Post by calabash on Jan 20, 2021 17:08:18 GMT -5
I think it might be a Cheroot/Cigar holder but I really don’t know. That would make a lot of sense. |
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Post by trailboss on Jan 20, 2021 18:01:31 GMT -5
These pipes were never meant to be smoked, they were created to showcase the skills of Meerschaum carvers that have long left us.
Pretty cool stuff, I cannot imagine the hours involved.
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jcurtis55
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Posts: 324
First Name: Jeff
Favorite Pipe: Winslow Crown Viking
Favorite Tobacco: Dominican Glory Maduro
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Post by jcurtis55 on Jan 20, 2021 18:44:26 GMT -5
These pipes were never meant to be smoked, they were created to showcase the skills of Meerschaum carvers that have long left us. Pretty cool stuff, I cannot imagine the hours involved. Took him 4 years to carve it. |
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Post by daveinlax on Jan 20, 2021 18:56:54 GMT -5
I think it might be a Cheroot/Cigar holder but I really don’t know. That would make a lot of sense. Thinking about it, I bet it's a coloring bowl slipped into the pipe bowl. I don't know where this pipe lives but I saw many art pieces like this when I visited The Valentine Museums pipe collection in Richmond when was in town for a CORPS Pipe Show years ago. Frank Burla had many pipes like this displayed in his museum too. |
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Post by taiguy66 on Jan 20, 2021 19:07:45 GMT -5
These pipes were never meant to be smoked, they were created to showcase the skills of Meerschaum carvers that have long left us. Pretty cool stuff, I cannot imagine the hours involved. Took him 4 years to carve it. A great piece of art indeed.😁 |
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Post by Legend Lover on Jan 21, 2021 9:08:22 GMT -5
Extraordinary...but the bowl doesn't look big enough to hold much tobacco. It looks like it wasn't really supposed to be a pipe, which makes me wonder, why carve it to look like one? I could be wrong though. Maybe the carver thought this would be the perfect pipe. I think it might be a Cheroot/Cigar holder but I really don’t know. I agree with calabash, that DOES make sense. |
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Post by mrlunting on Jan 21, 2021 14:08:32 GMT -5
The carver has a great deal of talent!. I expect that is a show piece. Just looking at it, I think it is un practical as a smoking pipe. I to think that I would break it as soon as pick it up.
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 21, 2021 14:26:10 GMT -5
Took him 4 years to carve it. A great piece of art indeed.😁 Certainly a great piece of “craft.” Not sure about “art.” |
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calabash
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Favorite Pipe: Baki meerschaum, 1972 Dunhill
Favorite Tobacco: C & D Yorktown, Stokkebye Luxury Bullseye Flake, Gawith St James Flake
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Post by calabash on Jan 21, 2021 16:06:11 GMT -5
A great piece of art indeed.😁 Certainly a great piece of “craft.” Not sure about “art.” Folk art? |
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 21, 2021 17:16:17 GMT -5
Certainly a great piece of “craft.” Not sure about “art.” Folk art? Good question. So-called folk art is usually simple and often has a “useful” purpose. Just because an object takes great skill to make and takes the maker a long time to create does not make it “art.” IMO real art evokes an emotional and intellectual response from its observer. It’s about “what it is to be a human being.” Shakespeare, Van Gogh, Brahms, Faulkner all qualify. No matter how expertly done, a carving, based on someone else’s genuine art work and made to loosely resemble a “pipe” (because it needs some kind of platform) does not qualify. I can appreciate it as the work of a talented worker, but it’s not art. |
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Post by trailboss on Jan 22, 2021 19:39:40 GMT -5
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 22, 2021 22:13:14 GMT -5
De gustibus non disputandum est.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 22, 2021 22:18:09 GMT -5
De gustibus non disputandum est. I don't think it's in bad taste. I like it, but I wouldn't want to own it. |
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 22, 2021 22:38:35 GMT -5
De gustibus non disputandum est. I don't think it's in bad taste. I like it, but I wouldn't want to own it. Translation: “About matters of taste there can be no dispute.” |
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Post by briarpipenyc on Jan 23, 2021 9:30:54 GMT -5
Regardless of its final use, the masterful working of the material is truly astounding. I definitely wouldn't have the patience, and it would surely be thrown against the nearest wall if I cracked something while I carved it. This "pipe" looks like it needs to be behind glass....in a display case.
Ars gratia artis.....
Man, MUST embellish and decorate any and all objects they claim as theirs. Even our simple tools are usually initialed. We are compelled to please the eye of the beholder, and "mark our territory". It's in our DNA.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 23, 2021 10:57:05 GMT -5
If you look closely, the detail doesn't come close to a S. Yanic pipe.
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Post by trailboss on Jan 23, 2021 11:17:58 GMT -5
Ben Rappaport, noted expert, had a website that used to be open, but now it is by invite only. He has quite an extensive online catalogue of pipes from around the world. www.blogger.com/blogin.g?blogspotURL=https://tobaccopipeartistory.blogspot.com/I suspect that he closed it down to the public because of people like me. I contacted him to ask advice, and he seemed like he was pissed as he would snap back in response: "Did You Buy my book?" Yes I did, but it lacked the answers I was seeking. All my communication with him went worse after that, and decided that it was time for me to move on. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 23, 2021 12:55:25 GMT -5
I had a couple of email discussions with Rick Newcombe after reading his 2 books when I was acquiring Preben Holm pipes. He came across as a really nice guy. Everyone is different.
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Post by trailboss on Jan 23, 2021 13:02:57 GMT -5
Newcombe and Fred Hanna are awesome guys.
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