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Post by Plainsman on Feb 7, 2021 16:11:33 GMT -5
My McArthur MM has a 3.3” deep bowl. Once the load gets down a ways it’s kind of hard to get a good light with a match or a regular pipe lighter. So I’ve been using a butane torch for relights. (Mine’s a Kollea, from Amazon.) I know torches are not the favorite for reg’lar pipes but I find it almost essential for the McArthur. The flame is highly directional and I hold it over the bowl before lighting it up. I feel I actually burn the pipe itself more with a match or a lighter than with the torch. It’s also on for only a second or two, whereas the others take a while to get a good light. Anyone else find this true? That McArthur sure does give a good smoke, and a long one, too.
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Post by Darin on Feb 7, 2021 16:14:00 GMT -5
I use fireplace matches for those deep touch-ups.
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Post by urbino on Feb 7, 2021 16:30:20 GMT -5
This is why I tend not to buy really deep bowls. As somebody who tends to relight a fair bit, I look at them and think, "How am I gonna relight that?"
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Post by sperrytops on Feb 7, 2021 16:30:54 GMT -5
One must do what one must do.
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Post by mrlunting on Feb 7, 2021 16:32:40 GMT -5
If you are smoking at home you may want to look into hemp wick. Smoking outside I would suggest maybe a Zippo with a pipe insert. If you don't mind the taste that comes along with it.
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Post by urbino on Feb 7, 2021 16:37:53 GMT -5
If you are smoking at home you may want to look into hemp wick. Smoking outside I would suggest maybe a Zippo with a pipe insert. If you don't mind the taste that comes along with it. Interesting. I wonder if we can even buy hemp wick in [most states] in the States.
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 7, 2021 16:41:21 GMT -5
I do the same with a torch lighter. Hemp wick is available everywhere, but it's just something else to keep up with and doesn't work much better than the kitchen match.
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Post by mrlunting on Feb 7, 2021 16:43:39 GMT -5
I do the same with a torch lighter. Hemp wick is available everywhere, but it's just something else to keep up with and doesn't work much better than the kitchen match. It's the match that keeps on giving. 🙂
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Post by urbino on Feb 7, 2021 16:47:55 GMT -5
I guess one of those bbq lighters could work, as long as the diameter of the chamber is big enough.
The thing I've tended to run into, though, is you basically have to turn whatever it is -- lighter, match, etc. -- upside down to get it down in there. With a match, that tends to mean I burn my dumb self. With a lighter, they tend to go out. Even the torch lighters I've owned don't like to burn upside down, and they tend not to last long when used that way. I guess it clogs the valve up or something.
But I have terrible luck with lighters, anyway. That may not be a typical experience.
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Post by Darin on Feb 7, 2021 16:58:21 GMT -5
Whatever the source, you pull the flame down to the tobacco with your draw. Even if the pipe is completely full, you still hold the flame up above and pull it down. Never needs to make any actual contact.
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Post by Plainsman on Feb 7, 2021 16:59:56 GMT -5
Thanks for the comments, gents. I’m more convinced than ever that a well-directed butane torch is the best solution.
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Post by urbino on Feb 7, 2021 17:12:47 GMT -5
Whatever the source, you pull the flame down to the tobacco with your draw. Even if the pipe is completely full, you still hold the flame up above and pull it down. Never needs to make any actual contact. Maybe I need better lungs, but with a really deep bowl, I can't draw the flame deep enough when I'm down near the bottom. If people can just hold the flame above, in a normal position, what are we even talking about?
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Post by Darin on Feb 7, 2021 17:32:49 GMT -5
Whatever the source, you pull the flame down to the tobacco with your draw. Even if the pipe is completely full, you still hold the flame up above and pull it down. Never needs to make any actual contact. Maybe I need better lungs, but with a really deep bowl, I can't draw the flame deep enough when I'm down near the bottom. If people can just hold the flame above, in a normal position, what are we even talking about? I'm not saying you don't need to sometimes get the flame further into the bowl, just not ALL the way down to the tobacco. If you're right above it and the flame won't draw, I'd be looking at a lighter pack and less tamping. This will also minimize your need for relights in the first place, IMHO.
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Post by Plainsman on Feb 7, 2021 17:39:19 GMT -5
Crowned king of the very-long reach...
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Post by terrapinflyer on Feb 7, 2021 18:06:45 GMT -5
There is a little match holder that is used to light grills with a paper match. It's just a wire with a loop like a split-ring key chain. Probably easy enough to DIY.
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 7, 2021 19:46:29 GMT -5
Crowned king of the very-long reach... Those are great for when you are smoking Creme Brule!
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Post by mrlunting on Feb 7, 2021 20:34:04 GMT -5
Crowned king of the very-long reach... Those are great for when you are smoking Creme Brule! I could smoke about 4 right now. Mark Twain in a cob ready for action. Have a good night everyone!
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Post by trailboss on Feb 7, 2021 21:04:40 GMT -5
Maybe I need better lungs, but with a really deep bowl, I can't draw the flame deep enough when I'm down near the bottom. If people can just hold the flame above, in a normal position, what are we even talking about? I'm not saying you don't need to sometimes get the flame further into the bowl, just not ALL the way down to the tobacco. If you're right above it and the flame won't draw, I'd be looking at a lighter pack and less tamping. This will also minimize your need for relights in the first place, IMHO. +1 With a match, be it a full size wooden kitchen stick match or a fireplace match, if you cannot relight it is a tamping issue/proper draw issue. A torch should never be needed unless you are smoking in winds that you ought not be smoking in.
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Post by Plainsman on Feb 7, 2021 21:12:04 GMT -5
Thanks! I’ll continue to use my method.
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Post by trailboss on Feb 7, 2021 21:18:01 GMT -5
Yeah, cobs are expendable!
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Post by mrlunting on Feb 8, 2021 0:28:05 GMT -5
Thanks! I’ll continue to use my method. Come the end of the day, you have to do what works best for you. How long does that pipe take to smoke?
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Post by Plainsman on Feb 8, 2021 9:27:07 GMT -5
Thanks! I’ll continue to use my method. Come the end of the day, you have to do what works best for you. How long does that pipe take to smoke? It’ll smoke about an hour. Maybe a few minutes longer. My theory is that the pinpoint flame of the torch, carefully directed, does less damage to the pipe than the broader flame of the match or regular lighter. We’ll see how that works out. So far looks like the cob will outlive me.
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Post by mrlunting on Feb 8, 2021 9:34:42 GMT -5
Come the end of the day, you have to do what works best for you. How long does that pipe take to smoke? It’ll smoke about an hour. Maybe a few minutes longer. My theory is that the pinpoint flame of the torch, carefully directed, does less damage to the pipe than the broader flame of the match or regular lighter. We’ll see how that works out. So far looks like the cob will outlive me. I have used a similar torch for flake. Seems to light better. That's one thing I love about smoking a pipe. Finding what works and what doesn't.
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