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Post by urbino on Mar 20, 2021 16:16:28 GMT -5
I've taken delivery on a few blends in bulk (i.e., large plastic bags), and I'm wondering how you guys store half-pound and pound quantities for the long term.
Move it to a large Mason jar? Multiple regular size Mason jars? Seal it up in mylar? Other?
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Post by Darin on Mar 20, 2021 16:21:54 GMT -5
Regular size mason jars for me ... packed as tight as I can. I write the blend name and date on the lid with a Sharpie pen.
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Post by Ronv69 on Mar 20, 2021 16:34:15 GMT -5
I've taken delivery on a few blends in bulk (i.e., large plastic bags), and I'm wondering how you guys store half-pound and pound quantities for the long term. Move it to a large Mason jar? Multiple regular size Mason jars? Seal it up in mylar? Other? The largest I use is 16oz. And yes, pack it tight.
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Post by Legend Lover on Mar 20, 2021 16:41:21 GMT -5
I wish I had this problem. LOL
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Post by qmechanics on Mar 20, 2021 16:43:39 GMT -5
I avoid putting a pound in any single Mason jar, just in case the tobacco goes south. Typically, with large amounts of a given blend, mostly bulk, I place 8 ounces of a blend into quart sized jars and use smaller jars for other quantities (On the lid goes the Company and Blend Name and Date, written with a permanent sharpie.).
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Post by urbino on Mar 20, 2021 16:50:25 GMT -5
I wish I had this problem. LOL I wish you did, too, my man.
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Post by urbino on Mar 20, 2021 16:52:55 GMT -5
I avoid putting a pound in any single Mason jar just in case the tobacco goes south. The largest I place 8 ounces of tobacco in quart sized jars and use smaller jars for other quantities. Not sure I follow. You mean if some of it goes south, hopefully it all won't? Is that the thinking?
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Post by qmechanics on Mar 20, 2021 17:08:53 GMT -5
I avoid putting a pound in any single Mason jar just in case the tobacco goes south. The largest I place 8 ounces of tobacco in quart sized jars and use smaller jars for other quantities. Not sure I follow. You mean if some of it goes south, hopefully it all won't? Is that the thinking? Yes, if one batch (whatever is stored in one jar) goes south, develops mold etc. , hopefully the other Jars are safe (chances are the same blend bought and jarred on different occasions will not suffer the same fate.) . In actuality, most of my tobaccos are in pint size mason jars or smaller. Not only do I have smaller quantities to store, but I use the different storage jars as part of an ongoing experiment, to see if conventional wisdom holds true; A wisdom that states tobacco ages better in the smaller jars. I buy two to five pds (or more) for bulk blends I like. I do not buy these quantities all at once. If I place them in very large jars, I can loose the whole batch if problems arise. So at the most, I limit these large quantities to quart jars as opposed to pint sized etc, for the convenience, easier storage and quickness of the process. Another reason for limiting the size of jars is opening and closing cellared jars to add tobacco is not the best way to run a cellar. Of course this to depends on the results one is after.
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Post by fadingdaylight on Mar 20, 2021 17:30:56 GMT -5
Regular size mason jars for me ... packed as tight as I can. I write the blend name and date on the lid with a Sharpie pen. This, exactly. Then you can pop one jar and have a few ounces to smoke without breaking seal on the rest. One for this year, one for next year, etc.
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Post by isett2860 on Mar 20, 2021 17:40:58 GMT -5
Just speaking out loud. From what I have heard and read. Depending on the blend type. Virginias should have some room in the jar to get some air in there to help with aging.
What are the thoughts of the more experienced here?
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Post by Darin on Mar 20, 2021 17:55:03 GMT -5
Just speaking out loud. From what I have heard and read. Depending on the blend type. Virginias should have some room in the jar to get some air in there to help with aging. What are the thoughts of the more experienced here? There is aerobic and anaerobic fermentation that occurs, each contributing their own attributes. Even with a firm packing, there will be quite a bit of oxygen trapped. It seems like the first stage uses this up and makes the lid "suck in" while the second anaerobic phase causes it to bulge out. Nothing like unscrewing a jar and having the lid fly across the room like a champagne cork. Lol
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Post by taiguy66 on Mar 20, 2021 18:33:43 GMT -5
I've taken delivery on a few blends in bulk (i.e., large plastic bags), and I'm wondering how you guys store half-pound and pound quantities for the long term. Move it to a large Mason jar? Multiple regular size Mason jars? Seal it up in mylar? Other? What blends did you buy Urb? Like a lot of comments, I pack mine is Mason jars, date them and the blend. Make sure the lid is air tight. If you’re worried about humidity, this issue has already been covered in a different thread.
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Post by pepesdad1 on Mar 20, 2021 19:45:36 GMT -5
I'm still using ceramic bail top jars...holds over a pound. Like these!^^^^^^^
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 20:15:15 GMT -5
I switched to mylar months ago, and it's made storage much easier. It's also made trading easier. I get the clear-front bags so I can see the tobacco - for instance, if I get a few boxes of flake, I'll put the best flakes in bag #1, and the 'dregs' bag will have all the broken up stuff. Nice to be able to see it.
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Post by urbino on Mar 20, 2021 20:15:56 GMT -5
I've taken delivery on a few blends in bulk (i.e., large plastic bags), and I'm wondering how you guys store half-pound and pound quantities for the long term. Move it to a large Mason jar? Multiple regular size Mason jars? Seal it up in mylar? Other? What blends did you buy Urb? Like a lot of comments, I pack mine is Mason jars, date them and the blend. Make sure the lid is air tight. If you’re worried about humidity, this issue has already been covered in a different thread. Marlin Flake, Old Gowrie, Sutliff Virginia Slices, Stokkebye LBF, Old Joe Krantz, Haunted Bookshop, and Morley's Best. I saw the humidity thread, yeah. Almost all my jars are Ball jars, so I'm not hugely concerned about it, and I have some extras of those terracotta discs you use to keep kitchen ingredients like brown sugar moist. I have a few larger jars I'm using that are bail jars, so I may toss one in those if I get to thinking it's a problem.
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Post by urbino on Mar 20, 2021 20:17:04 GMT -5
I'm still using ceramic bail top jars...holds over a pound. Like these!^^^^^^^ Definitely the classiest option. Spendiest, too.
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Post by urbino on Mar 20, 2021 20:19:20 GMT -5
I switched to mylar months ago, and it's made storage much easier. It's also made trading easier. I get the clear-front bags so I can see the tobacco - for instance, if I get a few boxes of flake, I'll put the best flakes in bag #1, and the 'dregs' bag will have all the broken up stuff. Nice to be able to see it. Yeah, I've got some of those, too. My largest ones don't have the clear side, though. I'm interested in how using mylar has made storage easier. Jars are bulkier and heavier, but they also stack together nicely. How are you organizing your mylar bags?
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Post by taiguy66 on Mar 20, 2021 20:19:37 GMT -5
What blends did you buy Urb? Like a lot of comments, I pack mine is Mason jars, date them and the blend. Make sure the lid is air tight. If you’re worried about humidity, this issue has already been covered in a different thread. Marlin Flake, Old Gowrie, Sutliff Virginia Slices, Stokkebye LBF, Old Joe Krantz, Haunted Bookshop, and Morley's Best. I saw the humidity thread, yeah. Almost all my jars are Ball jars, so I'm not hugely concerned about it, and I have some extras of those terracotta discs you use to keep kitchen ingredients like brown sugar moist. I have a few larger jars I'm using that are bail jars, so I may toss one in those if I get to thinking it's a problem. Looks like you’re all set pal. By the way, if you need help moving some of your Matlin Flake or Old Gowrie, give me a shout. I’d be happy to take some off your hands (and only because you’re a pal). 😁👍
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Post by urbino on Mar 20, 2021 20:27:13 GMT -5
Marlin Flake, Old Gowrie, Sutliff Virginia Slices, Stokkebye LBF, Old Joe Krantz, Haunted Bookshop, and Morley's Best. I saw the humidity thread, yeah. Almost all my jars are Ball jars, so I'm not hugely concerned about it, and I have some extras of those terracotta discs you use to keep kitchen ingredients like brown sugar moist. I have a few larger jars I'm using that are bail jars, so I may toss one in those if I get to thinking it's a problem. Looks like you’re all set pal. By the way, if you need help moving some of your Matlin Flake or Old Gowrie, give me a shout. I’d be happy to take some off your hands (and only because you’re a pal). 😁👍 Your generosity and kindness are exceeded only by your good looks, sir.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 20:39:59 GMT -5
I switched to mylar months ago, and it's made storage much easier. It's also made trading easier. I get the clear-front bags so I can see the tobacco - for instance, if I get a few boxes of flake, I'll put the best flakes in bag #1, and the 'dregs' bag will have all the broken up stuff. Nice to be able to see it. Yeah, I've got some of those, too. My largest ones don't have the clear side, though. I'm interested in how using mylar has made storage easier. Jars are bulkier and heavier, but they also stack together nicely. How are you organizing your mylar bags? I have large boxes and just stuff them in there. Jars need boxes that are an appropriate size to match the jars - mylar doesn't require that. In either case I want to use multiple jar or bag sizes and Mylar works better if I'm using a variety of sizes.
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Post by Ronv69 on Mar 20, 2021 20:52:44 GMT -5
Just speaking out loud. From what I have heard and read. Depending on the blend type. Virginias should have some room in the jar to get some air in there to help with aging. What are the thoughts of the more experienced here? I don't like Virginias.
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Post by urbino on Mar 20, 2021 21:06:02 GMT -5
Yeah, I've got some of those, too. My largest ones don't have the clear side, though. I'm interested in how using mylar has made storage easier. Jars are bulkier and heavier, but they also stack together nicely. How are you organizing your mylar bags? I have large boxes and just stuff them in there. Jars need boxes that are an appropriate size to match the jars - mylar doesn't require that. In either case I want to use multiple jar or bag sizes and Mylar works better if I'm using a variety of sizes. No matter what containers one uses, I guess it's that age old problem: you can have efficient storage, or you can have accessible storage, but you can't have both. My concern is, knowing the remarkable extent of my laziness, anything I can't easily see is likely to go unsmoked. I gotta have stuff where I can see it. But I need my cellar to not take over my apartment.
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Post by pepesdad1 on Mar 20, 2021 21:32:14 GMT -5
I'm still using ceramic bail top jars...holds over a pound. Like these!^^^^^^^ Definitely the classiest option. Spendiest, too. Got the ceramic containers for about a buck ($1.00) each in a thrift store...just make sure the top is tight and it has a silicon seal... not spendiest at all. They clean up real well, too.
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Post by urbino on Mar 20, 2021 21:42:45 GMT -5
Definitely the classiest option. Spendiest, too. Got the ceramic containers for about a buck ($1.00) each in a thrift store...just make sure the top is tight and it has a silicon seal... not spendiest at all. They clean up real well, too. I'll be darned. Nice get. Do you find onesies-twosies here and there, or did you run across a trove of them?
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Post by qmechanics on Mar 20, 2021 22:00:20 GMT -5
Definitely the classiest option. Spendiest, too. Got the ceramic containers for about a buck ($1.00) each in a thrift store...just make sure the top is tight and it has a silicon seal... not spendiest at all. They clean up real well, too. One certainly has to be careful about how well they seal... With that said, it looks like you found a sweet deal!!
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Post by daveinlax on Mar 21, 2021 1:39:15 GMT -5
The “bulk” of my cellar is flats of 32oz wide mouth mason jars. They are very heavy and if I had to start over I would think about sealed Mylar bags in tubs. A lot of the guys I know from pipe boards these days come to shows with small pre loaded and sealed Mylar bags for sampling and trading.
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Post by pepesdad1 on Mar 21, 2021 8:34:35 GMT -5
Got the ceramic containers for about a buck ($1.00) each in a thrift store...just make sure the top is tight and it has a silicon seal... not spendiest at all. They clean up real well, too. I'll be darned. Nice get. Do you find onesies-twosies here and there, or did you run across a trove of them?I found them here and there...not all at once but over the period of 6 months I had more than I can use... the trick is to make sure it has a silicon seal...some of them don't...where I find a rubber seal I will swap it out with a less desirable container at the thrift store and that way I have what I need...the only draw back is weight...several of those in a tub for transportation can be heavy.
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Post by taiguy66 on Mar 21, 2021 10:21:24 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2021 11:16:07 GMT -5
I have large boxes and just stuff them in there. Jars need boxes that are an appropriate size to match the jars - mylar doesn't require that. In either case I want to use multiple jar or bag sizes and Mylar works better if I'm using a variety of sizes. No matter what containers one uses, I guess it's that age old problem: you can have efficient storage, or you can have accessible storage, but you can't have both. My concern is, knowing the remarkable extent of my laziness, anything I can't easily see is likely to go unsmoked. I gotta have stuff where I can see it. But I need my cellar to not take over my apartment. If you want to have your tobacco out where you can see it, I guess jars are best. I use those round labels on jars and mylar bags. If I were keeping a lot of jars out where I could see them, like on a bookshelf, I think I would also put the round labels on the sides of the jars. With those big SG plug boxes, I chop the plugs into about 45-50g each, then heat-seal each plug in a small, thin, black bag after affixing an appropriate round label to each bag, then stuff most of them back in the SG box. Works great for smoking, but also for giving plugs away. I have to go pick up five boxes of plug next week, so it will be an all-afternoon event printing labels, cutting plugs, packing and storing. But it's fun also.
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Post by pepesdad1 on Mar 21, 2021 12:08:29 GMT -5
No matter what containers one uses, I guess it's that age old problem: you can have efficient storage, or you can have accessible storage, but you can't have both. My concern is, knowing the remarkable extent of my laziness, anything I can't easily see is likely to go unsmoked. I gotta have stuff where I can see it. But I need my cellar to not take over my apartment. If you want to have your tobacco out where you can see it, I guess jars are best. I use those round labels on jars and mylar bags. If I were keeping a lot of jars out where I could see them, like on a bookshelf, I think I would also put the round labels on the sides of the jars. With those big SG plug boxes, I chop the plugs into about 45-50g each, then heat-seal each plug in a small, thin, black bag after affixing an appropriate round label to each bag, then stuff most of them back in the SG box. Works great for smoking, but also for giving plugs away. I have to go pick up five boxes of plug next week, so it will be an all-afternoon event printing labels, cutting plugs, packing and storing. But it's fun also.Sure is! Nothing feels better than to have a full cellar to chose from.
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