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Post by Silver on May 4, 2021 16:04:41 GMT -5
11 more working days until I don't give a rip.
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Post by dingobob on May 4, 2021 17:01:35 GMT -5
I spent some time as the managing editor of a newspaper in Chicago. The hell with all of that. Journalists are the biggest bunch of divas I have ever met. Nothing but a bunch of half-educated dimwits all convinced they're the next Hemingway or Hunter Thompson. Shut up and cover the damn baseball game. I'm not putting your over-poetic bullshit in the paper. Go apply at Rolling Stone if that's what you want to do.
Now, I run a freelancing editing house that is packed full of cynical, darling-slaying badasses, and I love each of them like my own kids.
Wouldn't trade my current position for the world.
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Post by pepesdad1 on May 4, 2021 17:14:35 GMT -5
11 more working days until I don't give a rip.That was my feeling on the last day right up until I walked out the door...at that point, my mind went blank and has been in that state ever since.
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Post by trailboss on May 4, 2021 17:19:01 GMT -5
I spent some time as the managing editor of a newspaper in Chicago. The hell with all of that. Journalists are the biggest bunch of divas I have ever met. Nothing but a bunch of half-educated dimwits all convinced they're the next Hemingway or Hunter Thompson. Shut up and cover the damn baseball game. I'm not putting your over-poetic bullshit in the paper. Go apply at Rolling Stone if that's what you want to do.Now, I run a freelancing editing house that is packed full of cynical, darling-slaying badasses, and I love each of them like my own kids. Wouldn't trade my current position for the world. Interesting take on someone that has been there, done that. It really confirms my suspicions, and in the last several years what was once a noble profession seems to be populated by some real scrubs that have been indoctrinate at places like Columbia, and are wind up dolls to promote propaganda. That's the way I see it.
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Post by trailboss on May 4, 2021 17:19:49 GMT -5
11 more working days until I don't give a rip.
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Post by dingobob on May 4, 2021 17:22:54 GMT -5
I spent some time as the managing editor of a newspaper in Chicago. The hell with all of that. Journalists are the biggest bunch of divas I have ever met. Nothing but a bunch of half-educated dimwits all convinced they're the next Hemingway or Hunter Thompson. Shut up and cover the damn baseball game. I'm not putting your over-poetic bullshit in the paper. Go apply at Rolling Stone if that's what you want to do.Now, I run a freelancing editing house that is packed full of cynical, darling-slaying badasses, and I love each of them like my own kids. Wouldn't trade my current position for the world. Interesting take on someone that has been there, done that. It really confirms my suspicions, and in the last several years what was once a noble profession seems to be populated by some real scrubs that have been indoctrinate at places like Columbia, and are wind up dolls to promote propaganda. That's the way I see it. Most of them weren't bad in that regard. Your average journalist really doesn't give a rat's arse. The problem is with their egos. They could be doing the police beat for 10 years and still think they're the best writer on staff. They're always trying to write a 1.5k word article on stuff that'll be on page 11 of section B.
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Post by instymp on May 4, 2021 17:55:34 GMT -5
I spent some time as the managing editor of a newspaper in Chicago. The hell with all of that. Journalists are the biggest bunch of divas I have ever met. Nothing but a bunch of half-educated dimwits all convinced they're the next Hemingway or Hunter Thompson. Shut up and cover the damn baseball game. I'm not putting your over-poetic bullshit in the paper. Go apply at Rolling Stone if that's what you want to do. Now, I run a freelancing editing house that is packed full of cynical, darling-slaying badasses, and I love each of them like my own kids. Wouldn't trade my current position for the world. In the good old days, they weren't journalists, they were reporters. They reported. Just saying, my opinion only.
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Post by dingobob on May 4, 2021 20:58:41 GMT -5
I spent some time as the managing editor of a newspaper in Chicago. The hell with all of that. Journalists are the biggest bunch of divas I have ever met. Nothing but a bunch of half-educated dimwits all convinced they're the next Hemingway or Hunter Thompson. Shut up and cover the damn baseball game. I'm not putting your over-poetic bullshit in the paper. Go apply at Rolling Stone if that's what you want to do. Now, I run a freelancing editing house that is packed full of cynical, darling-slaying badasses, and I love each of them like my own kids. Wouldn't trade my current position for the world. In the good old days, they weren't journalists, they were reporters. They reported. Just saying, my opinion only.
This is really a matter of the blurriness of language usage. A journalist, in its broadest sense, is anybody who works for a news organization. That could be an opinion columnist, or a weatherman, or an editor. A reporter is a very specific type of journalist whose job it is to go find out the facts of a current story. Their job is to tell the public the facts and nothing more. Speaking from a completely US-centric point of view, reporters still exist, though in the major news networks there are precious few of them. Most that do exist are often on loan from local TV or radio stations. Sorry. Linguistic tangent. Hazard of the job.
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Post by Silver on May 4, 2021 22:00:13 GMT -5
11 more working days until I don't give a rip.That was my feeling on the last day right up until I walked out the door...at that point, my mind went blank and has been in that state ever since. It didn't go blank. It's just that all the work-related crap that filled your head was gone, freeing up space for other things. Hopefully, thoughts that lead to greater personal/spiritual/creative/fulfilling experiences. On that note, I was working on staining a couple more corn cobs this evening. I won't have a problem keeping myself busy in retirement.
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Post by johnlawitzke on May 4, 2021 22:50:15 GMT -5
I do appreciate a good manager. With a good manager, I can do my job better. Some (many) managers are not much more than a six year old in the back seat, kicking the back of your seat, asking "are we there yet? are we there yet?" But believe me, engineers need managers. Just watch that video with the flying lawnmower. It just shows what a bunch of unmanaged engineers can do. I bet their assignment was to improve the lawnmower, perhaps make it semi-autonomous so it could learn and navigate the lawn and get er done on its own. But without a manager, the engineers said, "wouldn't it be cool if..." and then "yea, how could we do that" and soon enough, the whole week is gone. So true.
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Post by urbino on May 5, 2021 1:22:29 GMT -5
I do appreciate a good manager. With a good manager, I can do my job better. Some (many) managers are not much more than a six year old in the back seat, kicking the back of your seat, asking "are we there yet? are we there yet?" But believe me, engineers need managers. Just watch that video with the flying lawnmower. It just shows what a bunch of unmanaged engineers can do. I bet their assignment was to improve the lawnmower, perhaps make it semi-autonomous so it could learn and navigate the lawn and get er done on its own. But without a manager, the engineers said, "wouldn't it be cool if..." and then "yea, how could we do that" and soon enough, the whole week is gone. So true. In the software world, we call that "shaving yaks." It's the phenomenon where you set out to perform task A, realize it would be easier if you had a B, start working on that and find you need a C to create a good B, and so forth and so on until, before you know it, you're shaving a yak. That is, by a series of small steps, you find yourself spending all your time on some odd, obscure thing that's hardly related to A at all.
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Post by Plainsman on May 5, 2021 10:42:25 GMT -5
I only have myself to manage now. I’ll get up to find my glasses, notice a book on the table and take it to a bookshelf to put it away, notice the shelves are dusty and get the hand vac to clean them, remember to coil up the vac cord and put it away, straighten a rug in the hall, take a paper napkin away from the dog, and go back an sit on my glasses on the chair.
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Post by urbino on May 5, 2021 13:32:07 GMT -5
I only have myself to manage now. I’ll get up to find my glasses, notice a book on the table and take it to a bookshelf to put it away, notice the shelves are dusty and get the hand vac to clean them, remember to coil up the vac cord and put it away, straighten a rug in the hall, take a paper napkin away from the dog, and go back an sit on my glasses on the chair. This is so me. (Except for the putting things away part.) In one of his essays, E.B. White talks about his long-running battle to keep a particular picture in the hallway hanging straight. I think, but wouldn't swear, it was written during WWII. In typical White fashion, it is drily hilarious. I think the opening sentence reads roughly, "Going through the hall on a mission of dubious import to God and Country, I stopped to straighten..." The self-deprecation in that first phrase never fails to give me a chuckle.
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Post by trailboss on May 10, 2021 23:06:00 GMT -5
The weirdest set of circumstances has taken place at my work.
I like the job, it is a good job, go to work at 6AM and off work by about 2 or 3 PM which drawing my pension works for me, it is more about the benefits and some money coming in.
Everyone is cool from the Branch manager, Operations manager, Sales staff, other drivers and warehouse staff.
The warehouse manager is a total jerk though, and is the operations manager. He got the job because the other two drivers turned it down, he worked in the warehouse in the past, drove the small trucks, and was the third in line to be asked, and he accepted. Always pissed off and is rude in every way he talks to me, he has no skills tact, or diplomacy. Never mind you I have executed my duties very well, and have only made a few minor mistakes that is to be expected of anyone that is not familiar with the product lines...really inconsequential in the big scheme of things.
I worked a bit late one Friday night and the operations manager and I were the only ones on the property, and he asked me how it was going. I knew he was getting at something and it didn't take long for him to ask me what I thought about the warehouse manager. I was very diplomatic in my response as I told him that the guy lacked skills in managing, and micromanaged to a point that it is not a positive way to manage people. (We are GPS out in the field, and within five minutes of me arriving at any stop, he is calling me asking me what is going on. I have worked independently my whole career, with my nearest bosses several states away, never once questioned. )Then (surprisingly) the operations manager told me about the backstabbing he has received from the guy, and attempts to undercut him. I was shocked about what has transpired behind the scenes, and shocked that he was sharing it with me. He then went on to tell me that there is room for advancement for people in the company that want to move up. He then went on to tell me that the Branch manager was going to have a discussion with the warehouse manager the next day (Saturday).
The following Monday, it seemed that there was no change in the warehouse managers attitude.
I walked into the small office for the warehouse to complete paperwork and sign out. Undeterred by my presence, the warehouse manager was shredding the operations manager to a young sales guy that seems impressionable and wants to side with him. He called the operations manager an asshole and some really, really crude names. It was like a couple of bitchy women gossiping, and cattiness that was ridiculous.
(prior to hearing that I had heard the same conversation between the two, figured it was the ranting's of a bad day in the office) but it predated the operations manager pulling me aside, I had not mentioned that to him at the time
I have no desire to manage anyone, I just want to live a stress free life, do my job, punch the clock and go home. I would like for the jerk to be found out, (especially by the branch manager that oversees all of operations in Arizona, our location is the state HQ) but I have no desire to interject myself into the drama.
An ideal solution would be for the branch manager to monitor the conversations made in the warehouse office...In short time he would find out that this guy refers to most of the sales staff and customers as C%&ksuckers.
Kind of at quandry in it all, but something has to give.
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Post by Silver on May 10, 2021 23:11:57 GMT -5
These office dramas have a way of working themselves out. Sometimes the bad guy wins, though.
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Post by Gypo on May 10, 2021 23:23:22 GMT -5
Sounds like a tough thing to sidestep Charlie.
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Post by trailboss on May 11, 2021 7:12:22 GMT -5
These office dramas have a way of working themselves out. Sometimes the bad guy wins, though.Sadly, so true in corporate America.
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Post by Plainsman on May 11, 2021 8:35:40 GMT -5
stress free life ≠ working in an organization
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Post by sperrytops on May 11, 2021 9:46:50 GMT -5
Sad but true. One can only ignore the people that irritate you and otherwise limit interactions with them. Worst thing to do would be to get caught up in their small mindedness.
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Post by trailboss on May 11, 2021 9:58:12 GMT -5
Sad but true. One can only ignore the people that irritate you and otherwise limit interactions with them. Worst thing to do would be to get caught up in their small mindedness. Agreed, I am going to keep my head down and hope that self exposure happens by the knucklehead. He seems to be his own worst enemy.
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Post by Plainsman on May 11, 2021 9:59:26 GMT -5
The tall poppies are cut first.
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Post by jeffd on May 11, 2021 12:28:25 GMT -5
I do appreciate a good manager. With a good manager, I can do my job better. Some (many) managers are not much more than a six year old in the back seat, kicking the back of your seat, asking "are we there yet? are we there yet?" But believe me, engineers need managers. Just watch that video with the flying lawnmower. It just shows what a bunch of unmanaged engineers can do. I bet their assignment was to improve the lawnmower, perhaps make it semi-autonomous so it could learn and navigate the lawn and get er done on its own. But without a manager, the engineers said, "wouldn't it be cool if..." and then "yea, how could we do that" and soon enough, the whole week is gone. Maybe the task was to create a stealth suburban assault drone. Yea, because a conventional drone looks so obvious. Who would notice a lawnmower.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jul 14, 2021 15:38:02 GMT -5
I do appreciate a good manager. With a good manager, I can do my job better. Some (many) managers are not much more than a six year old in the back seat, kicking the back of your seat, asking "are we there yet? are we there yet?" But believe me, engineers need managers. Just watch that video with the flying lawnmower. It just shows what a bunch of unmanaged engineers can do. I bet their assignment was to improve the lawnmower, perhaps make it semi-autonomous so it could learn and navigate the lawn and get er done on its own. But without a manager, the engineers said, "wouldn't it be cool if..." and then "yea, how could we do that" and soon enough, the whole week is gone. That is absolutely the most amazing thing I have ever seen in my life! I love it!
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Post by Ronv69 on Jul 14, 2021 15:48:59 GMT -5
My only management experience was from 17-21 years old when I worked for my brothers company. I started when I was 14 and worked 60 hours or more a week for the next 7 years. When I was 16 I had to do the payroll and schedule 200 part time workers, (mostly coax them to work), while he was out on a 2 week drunk. When I was 17 I was the obvious choice to manage crews because I had the most experience. I never had much problem. If someone didn't work they didn't get scheduled. Most everyone wanted to pull their end, and actually got competitive about it. When I was 21 my brother put his new brother in law over me. Worst person I have ever met.
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Post by oldcajun123 on Jul 14, 2021 17:04:28 GMT -5
I’m a hands on guy, good practical skills from working on the farm, shrimp boat, solving problems was my strong suit, managed turnarounds over 200 people. Late in my career we had a very big problem with a new tower we had installed. They got the big Guru from Germany to come down, after a week he was stumped. I was on the smoking bench and he sat down by me and said they all say I need to talk to you.I told him what I though was the problem, he asked me to help him, in 6 hrs we had my idea, foaming of the oil was stopping the tower from working.!I told him race car drivers have that problem and they pump an anti foaming solution in the motor oil to stop it. We installed an anti foaming pump going to the top of the tower, foaming stopped in 12 hrs. He offered me a world wide Job with him, Starting in Singapore, told thanks but no thanks, last time I was in that part of the world they were shooting at me. Cajun land is in my blood, you need to be happy where you are at. When I retired the usual party had about 20 to 30 people, I had over 200, people I had treated with respect and helped them.!You don’t go wrong when you do that,
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Post by Ronv69 on Jul 14, 2021 17:50:15 GMT -5
At the last company I worked for I was a one man department. The entire company and their significant others turned out for my retirement party.
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Post by Plainsman on Jul 14, 2021 17:53:31 GMT -5
At the last company I worked for I was a one man department. The entire company and their significant others turned out for my retirement party. Glad the five of you had a good time.
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Post by darktater on Jul 14, 2021 18:13:13 GMT -5
I was actually VP of Development at a software company relatively early in my career. For the last 15 years or so I've gone back to, and been much happier, being a code monkey and only being responsible for my work. ;-)
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Post by trailboss on Jul 14, 2021 18:17:32 GMT -5
I am currently in the hiring process for a medical supply company, so far everyone there is delightful to work with. I am in pretty good shape, but I have one knee that is causing problems. I hope I can pass the agility test, several have told me that this part is no fun...they really take you to the limits.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jul 14, 2021 18:24:10 GMT -5
At the last company I worked for I was a one man department. The entire company and their significant others turned out for my retirement party. Glad the five of you had a good time. Try 60,AH!😉
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