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Post by rdpipes on Aug 7, 2021 9:02:31 GMT -5
Mark my words.............you'll all be sorry (or should be) some day that you had any dealings with Amazon. Easy for someone to say when they have access to decent shopping venues. I live out in the sticks in a town with a population of 400 and all we have is a gas station, laundry, post office and a school. Who has access to decent shopping venues sir? I have to drive 15 - 20 miles just to go grocery shopping and 30+ if I want anything else. I order 99% of what I need and want off the internet and sometimes have to pay as much for the shipping as the product I ordered. I've had dealings with Amazon and my daughter even sold through them so I know a little about what there about. It don't take a brick wall to fall on me to see where their going and what will happen.
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Post by Plainsman on Aug 7, 2021 9:14:52 GMT -5
Easy for someone to say when they have access to decent shopping venues. I live out in the sticks in a town with a population of 400 and all we have is a gas station, laundry, post office and a school. Who has access to decent shopping venues sir? I have to drive 15 - 20 miles just to go grocery shopping and 30+ if I want anything else. I order 99% of what I need and want off the internet and sometimes have to pay as much for the shipping as the product I ordered. I've had dealings with Amazon and my daughter even sold through them so I know a little about what there about. It don't take a brick wall to fall on me to see where their going and what will happen.
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Post by buzz on Aug 7, 2021 10:50:31 GMT -5
I used to be an Amazon regular. Until about two years ago. Now I stopped completely and gladly support both local business and online businesses that take care of me just fine. Amazon has squeezed out countless good businesses - both brick and morter as well as online. The perfect world happens when governments AND businesses don't get too big at which point they run and ruin everything. We're losing on both fronts. Incidentally my millenial daughter hates Amazon for the same reason. Good for her.
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Post by trailboss on Aug 7, 2021 11:16:07 GMT -5
It isn’t like this is our first rodeo.
We saw how Walmart wrecked the independent shops in small towns as they moved in.
The Dollar stores have also done a number on the mom and pop stores in the small towns… pretty much all gone.
Amazon with the technology at their disposal, has the ability to manipulate the market as stated in the first post. Now Beazos is spending billions to move into the pharmacy business. The loss of competition never bodes well for the consumer with limited choices eventually, and when the competition is gone, you control the supply.
I can see where an online overlord decides that your type 2 diabetes medicine is at conflict with your online dietary choices, and it is in your best interest for them to help the gubmint manage you.
Having the immense wealth and power in the hands of a few does not bode well for the citizenry, but the modern day Rockefeller’s and JP Morgan with knowledge of the past, know how to avoid upsetting the Apple cart like those in the past did.
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Post by rdpipes on Aug 7, 2021 11:19:00 GMT -5
I live out in the sticks in a town with a population of 400 and all we have is a gas station, laundry, post office and a school. Who has access to decent shopping venues sir? I have to drive 15 - 20 miles just to go grocery shopping and 30+ if I want anything else. I order 99% of what I need and want off the internet and sometimes have to pay as much for the shipping as the product I ordered. I've had dealings with Amazon and my daughter even sold through them so I know a little about what there about. It don't take a brick wall to fall on me to see where their going and what will happen.
So fill us ignorant peons in. I never treated anyone here like a peon or anything of the like, and with that said I'll let you figure it out on your own sir. |
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Post by toshtego on Aug 7, 2021 11:32:40 GMT -5
Easy for someone to say when they have access to decent shopping venues. I live out in the sticks in a town with a population of 400 and all we have is a gas station, laundry, post office and a school. Who has access to decent shopping venues sir? I have to drive 15 - 20 miles just to go grocery shopping and 30+ if I want anything else. I order 99% of what I need and want off the internet and sometimes have to pay as much for the shipping as the product I ordered. I've had dealings with Amazon and my daughter even sold through them so I know a little about what there about. It don't take a brick wall to fall on me to see where their going and what will happen.
Yeah, well, I live in a community of 200 hundred. Gas station and Post Office are it. Postal Service has tried for years to close our local office. I have to drive 90 miles round trip to a real supermarket. 40 miles round trip will take me to a "Country store" type market. Most everything comes to me now by delivery off the internet, even some food items. Amazon makes ordering easy and is the fastest in response. I use others, too. Yes, sometimes the shipping is as much as the item ordered, another reason why I use Amazon Prime. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 7, 2021 11:37:19 GMT -5
We can gripe about Amazon as much as we like, but we didn't do this to ourselves. We need more competition. Why not a national co-op of mom and pop stores to get us the stuff we need locally.
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Post by Plainsman on Aug 7, 2021 12:28:00 GMT -5
I go out of my way to buy local when that is possible. Big-ticket items like stoves, fridges, and dish-washers are available at a local (well, 16 miles IS local) hardware store. Also my HVAC guy is a local. I won't buy such appliances elsewhere even though they would be cheaper. The local grocerette (also 16 miles) charges almost twice Walmart prices (35 miles). A local convenience store has a simple supply/pricing formula: buy at Walmart and then double the price. A locally owned grocery with reasonable prices would get ALL of my business. I don't defend Amazon, Walmart, or other corporate entities, but they do have a place in my remote lifestyle. If I thought avoiding them would have an effect, other than on my time and my pocketbook, I'd try it. But it won't. They could not care less about me, or my protest, as an individual consumer. I'm not going on any crusade.
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Post by trailboss on Aug 7, 2021 12:47:12 GMT -5
I am fortunate in that I do have an Albertson’s 1/8 mile away, (Fry’s) Kroger 1 mile a way. Home Depot is 1 mile one direction Lowe’s is a mile the other direction.
Having said that, all of my hardware purchases are done at ACE Hardware if they have it.
Certainly, living remotely is a lot different than my situation. Where I do live, it is a constant stream of Amazon trucks, and I live in a fairly quiet subdivision. We have a lot of local merchants that we can support, and I do.
As for big box stores, the one I cannot gripe about is Costco, great stuff for reasonable prices and outstanding return policies. If I some day move out to the boonies, we will do a once a month Costco run if it can be done in a few hours.
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Post by trailboss on Aug 7, 2021 13:03:22 GMT -5
We can gripe about Amazon as much as we like, but we didn't do this to ourselves. We need more competition. Why not a national co-op of mom and pop stores to get us the stuff we need locally. In California and parts of Arizona, a mom and pop store can still get groceries from Certified wholesale grocers? They are still in business, but the name changed slightly… nowhere the presence they had back in the day. Since it has trended over the years away from small town mom and pops, it would be nice to see an alliance between say Kroger and mom and pops in a town that Kroger has no desire to build a market in. The big guys already have the distribution centers in place, and would help the independents service their community with affordable products. Unfortunately, things are more dog eat dog in the world we live in. |
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