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Post by qmechanics on Oct 7, 2021 23:52:40 GMT -5
“It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of light, it was the season of darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair.” ..... I was raised in conditions such as those Dickens penned long ago, otherwise known as the video game days…. Where I rolled out of bed , walked to the ice box, otherwise known as the refrigerator, opened it up and ate and ate and ate... Then off to the TV.....Turning it on as well as the station, I would find a saved game and play while contacting my friends online to join in the action. Nothing like virtual friends!!! At some point, my mom would call “Q it is time for lunch” . Responding rather slow, I would say break to my dear friends, get up out of the chair and walk to the kitchen. Sad to say, due to the severe case of the munchies earlier (breakfast), I would sit there poking and nibbling at my food. Afterward, I walked the dog, my daily exercise, to go back to the worship center and play until evening came. Called again to dinner, where I found my appetite had returned, I ate my fill of Burger King, Wendys, whatever my mum brought home. Replete, quite satisfied, I would retire to the basement, preparing for an evening with the bong and the talk/chat forums. A habit my mom supported with some caution. My mum always said never take a hit you will regret (whether by bong or chat), words that I live by to this day...  |
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 8, 2021 10:13:23 GMT -5
“It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of light, it was the season of darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair.” ..... I was raised in conditions such as those Dickens penned long ago, otherwise known as the video game days…. Where I rolled out of bed , walked to the ice box, otherwise known as the refrigerator, opened it up and ate and ate and ate... Then off to the TV.....Turning it on as well as the station, I would find a saved game and play while contacting my friends online to join in the action. Nothing like virtual friends!!! At some point, my mom would call “Q it is time for lunch” . Responding rather slow, I would say break to my dear friends, get up out of the chair and walk to the kitchen. Sad to say, due to the severe case of the munchies earlier (breakfast), I would sit there poking and nibbling at my food. Afterward, I walked the dog, my daily exercise, to go back to the worship center and play until evening came. Called again to dinner, where I found my appetite had returned, I ate my fill of Burger King, Wendys, whatever my mum brought home. Replete, quite satisfied, I would retire to the basement, preparing for an evening with the bong and the talk/chat forums. A habit my mom supported with some caution. My mum always said never take a hit you will regret (whether by bong or chat), words that I live by to this day... I understand now that you are the inspiration for "Q" from the Q Continuum. m |
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Post by toshtego on Oct 8, 2021 11:34:23 GMT -5
Real bad night last. Pain in tibia and knee. Throbbing which does not quit. Up most of the night.
Bad this morning, too. Might have to walk less today.
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 8, 2021 12:11:56 GMT -5
Real bad night last. Pain in tibia and knee. Throbbing which does not quit. Up most of the night. Bad this morning, too. Might have to walk less today. Dude! You need real medical care. |
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Post by Plainsman on Oct 8, 2021 12:29:21 GMT -5
“It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of light, it was the season of darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair.” ..... I was raised in conditions such as those Dickens penned long ago, otherwise known as the video game days…. Where I rolled out of bed , walked to the ice box, otherwise known as the refrigerator, opened it up and ate and ate and ate... Then off to the TV.....Turning it on as well as the station, I would find a saved game and play while contacting my friends online to join in the action. Nothing like virtual friends!!! At some point, my mom would call “Q it is time for lunch” . Responding rather slow, I would say break to my dear friends, get up out of the chair and walk to the kitchen. Sad to say, due to the severe case of the munchies earlier (breakfast), I would sit there poking and nibbling at my food. Afterward, I walked the dog, my daily exercise, to go back to the worship center and play until evening came. Called again to dinner, where I found my appetite had returned, I ate my fill of Burger King, Wendys, whatever my mum brought home. Replete, quite satisfied, I would retire to the basement, preparing for an evening with the bong and the talk/chat forums. A habit my mom supported with some caution. My mum always said never take a hit you will regret (whether by bong or chat), words that I live by to this day... I can't connect with this at all. Dude— we are from different planets. Maybe different solar systems. Screen-time for me was Gunsmoke, Have Gun Will Travel, Sid Caesar, Milton Berle, on a B&W Muntz that didn't come along 'til I was 14. School bus was an hour each way. When I got home it was to change into jeans and boots (no jeans at school!) grab a rifle or shotgun and get into the woods. Or do the chores for a farmer I worked for thru the year and in summers. Fast food? Never heard of it 'til I got out of college. I don't mean to belittle you, or insult you, but the "life-style" you describe seems to be the sort of thing that has put us in the deep poop we are currently in. |
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Post by pepesdad1 on Oct 8, 2021 13:04:47 GMT -5
Real bad night last. Pain in tibia and knee. Throbbing which does not quit. Up most of the night. Bad this morning, too. Might have to walk less today. Dude! You need real medical care. Really John, you need to bite the bullet and get to a Dr. that can help get you back to decent health. None of those pains sound insignificant. |
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Post by qmechanics on Oct 8, 2021 14:22:45 GMT -5
“It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of light, it was the season of darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair.” ..... I was raised in conditions such as those Dickens penned long ago, otherwise known as the video game days…. Where I rolled out of bed , walked to the ice box, otherwise known as the refrigerator, opened it up and ate and ate and ate... Then off to the TV.....Turning it on as well as the station, I would find a saved game and play while contacting my friends online to join in the action. Nothing like virtual friends!!! At some point, my mom would call “Q it is time for lunch” . Responding rather slow, I would say break to my dear friends, get up out of the chair and walk to the kitchen. Sad to say, due to the severe case of the munchies earlier (breakfast), I would sit there poking and nibbling at my food. Afterward, I walked the dog, my daily exercise, to go back to the worship center and play until evening came. Called again to dinner, where I found my appetite had returned, I ate my fill of Burger King, Wendys, whatever my mum brought home. Replete, quite satisfied, I would retire to the basement, preparing for an evening with the bong and the talk/chat forums. A habit my mom supported with some caution. My mum always said never take a hit you will regret (whether by bong or chat), words that I live by to this day... I understand now that you are the inspiration for "Q" from the Q Continuum. m Well actually Q is short for qmechanics, which happens to be the title of the famed Q in the continuum… Qmechanics broken down is q for quantum and mechanics. I used to be a scientist whose interests involved that field of study. Still I understand my antics, at times does have a “Q” Star Trek dimension without the omnipotent powers.  . |
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Post by qmechanics on Oct 8, 2021 14:48:42 GMT -5
“It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of light, it was the season of darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair.” ..... I was raised in conditions such as those Dickens penned long ago, otherwise known as the video game days…. Where I rolled out of bed , walked to the ice box, otherwise known as the refrigerator, opened it up and ate and ate and ate... Then off to the TV.....Turning it on as well as the station, I would find a saved game and play while contacting my friends online to join in the action. Nothing like virtual friends!!! At some point, my mom would call “Q it is time for lunch” . Responding rather slow, I would say break to my dear friends, get up out of the chair and walk to the kitchen. Sad to say, due to the severe case of the munchies earlier (breakfast), I would sit there poking and nibbling at my food. Afterward, I walked the dog, my daily exercise, to go back to the worship center and play until evening came. Called again to dinner, where I found my appetite had returned, I ate my fill of Burger King, Wendys, whatever my mum brought home. Replete, quite satisfied, I would retire to the basement, preparing for an evening with the bong and the talk/chat forums. A habit my mom supported with some caution. My mum always said never take a hit you will regret (whether by bong or chat), words that I live by to this day... I can't connect with this at all. Dude— we are from different planets. Maybe different solar systems. Screen-time for me was Gunsmoke, Have Gun Will Travel, Sid Caesar, Milton Berle, on a B&W Muntz that didn't come along 'til I was 14. School bus was an hour each way. When I got home it was to change into jeans and boots (no jeans at school!) grab a rifle or shotgun and get into the woods. Or do the chores for a farmer I worked for thru the year and in summers. Fast food? Never heard of it 'til I got out of college. I don't mean to belittle you, or insult you, but the "life-style" you describe seems to be the sort of thing that has put us in the deep poop we are currently in. Do not worry too much Bob, I am not that far off the reservation. Still I cannot help but think that the Greatest Generation spawned the Baby Boomers. The Baby Boomers begot Generation X. Generation X birthed the Millennial. Each generation partook in the gradual downslide from our success to our excesses from our glory to our shame etc. …... The apple kept rolling from the tree. However, the tree moved before the apple. Each generation loosing its place in once firm, though imperfect, soil, one has to wonder who is to blame? One can even go back and ask, have the sins of our fathers now come to fruition? Has the West in confronting its past while forgetting its wisdom and the present, lost its moorings ? Is it now caught in an act of righteous deceit? Are we counting what is past when it serves us and forgetting the lessons learned and the growth we have undertaken? Are we deaf in one ear while hearing clearly with the other? Still as I light my pipe and sit, I know there are many approaches to this issue and most of them filled with folly….. Such is the state of man.... Ronv69 had it right….. I was playing in a bit of mischievous banter. I thought the contrast fitting and the interplay interesting for reasons mentioned above and others. |
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Post by Stearmandriver on Oct 8, 2021 15:43:50 GMT -5
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Post by oldcajun123 on Oct 8, 2021 15:44:57 GMT -5
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Post by toshtego on Oct 8, 2021 15:57:21 GMT -5
Dude! You need real medical care. Really John, you need to bite the bullet and get to a Dr. that can help get you back to decent health. None of those pains sound insignificant. I talked with my MD about one problem and he recommended PT. Unfortunately, the local hospital PT department is not taking new patients except for post operation "specimens". WE are short on Orthopedists, too. I likely need an MRI and that means going into a plague ridden small regional hospital. Not worth the risk. I will find other solutions- Homeopathy, Witchcraft, etc. I went back to bed this morning and rose at 1400 hours. The extra sleep seems to have helped. Not so much pain just now. My MD, who is way older than me, told me to expect aches and pains. Part of being old! |
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Post by qmechanics on Oct 8, 2021 16:27:41 GMT -5
It is true that some things never change. There are, however, smaller and larger trends and other dynamics to consider that weave their way into history. I for one think we are not nearly in as bad a shape as some here might believe. Still there is no doubt that the West is in search of its soul and has been for sometime now. What was once academic, ideas held by limited number, has grown beyond such constraints obtaining power and weight through the years, in a way that is different from the past discussed (Yes around the same time the counterculture was in the germination stage or in full bloom as the 1960s tells, an integral part to our current state of affairs.).
The United Sates, in particular, has been through challenges, some that threatened to break the Union apart. We have survived. However, there are differences and other affects that make the current ride one worth noting. As to the result of the next turn? I do not want this to turn political and get it locked up so I will stop there.
The point is, though our current history has things in common with the past, is it the same? Does it hold the same problems, dynamics and solutions? How different might it be? Is this significant? Will this current history repeat itself in some measure or fundamentally change us? My belief is that a key to understanding these things is to keep one’s head above the fray and contemplate the history, philosophy, culture, current events etc. of the nation and the world at large. I try to obtain a well rounded answer that looks to the differences, similarities in an attempt to understand. I also see folly in my own or man’s attempts towards perfection. One reason I am no longer an ideologue and have toned down my rhetoric through the years.
PS Funny enough, my first post to this thread was a humorous reaction, a poster child picture (one of several that come to mind) of a millennial. It is a farce that carries a bit of truth for some. |
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Post by pepesdad1 on Oct 8, 2021 16:37:40 GMT -5
Really John, you need to bite the bullet and get to a Dr. that can help get you back to decent health. None of those pains sound insignificant. I talked with my MD about one problem and he recommended PT. Unfortunately, the local hospital PT department is not taking new patients except for post operation "specimens". WE are short on Orthopedists, too. I likely need an MRI and that means going into a plague ridden small regional hospital. Not worth the risk. I will find other solutions- Homeopathy, Witchcraft, etc. I went back to bed this morning and rose at 1400 hours. The extra sleep seems to have helped. Not so much pain just now. My MD, who is way older than me, told me to expect aches and pains. Part of being old!While he is right about age and pains..I don'[t pay a Dr. to tell me I'm gettin' older...I want answers as to how to combat the issues that interfere with my normal living arrangement. I had 2 Drs. that gave me that bullsh*t and I kicked them to the curb... I want answers not complacent BS. |
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Post by trailboss on Oct 8, 2021 16:46:28 GMT -5
I agree,
That throbbing could be something like a blocked artery by a blood clot.
Them things break loose, and it can be the end of your journey.
I never even played a doctor on tv, but I have been around long enough to know what warning signs are.
If you have a jaded old doctor telling you nonsense, you really need to tell old sawbones to pound sand.
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Post by qmechanics on Oct 8, 2021 17:01:03 GMT -5
Help lol I am sorry....  I hope the thread will resume accordingly.... |
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Post by Plainsman on Oct 8, 2021 17:11:35 GMT -5
Yes, I am just an ol' codger "looking down" on a youngster. Of course, there just might be another reason that "today's kids" as described by OP -- even if in parody -- are deemed... unusual. I'm well familiar with the historical phenomenon of olders bemoaning "modern times," so your comments are not particularly illuminating, for me at least. These times ARE actually different, as any competent historian will tell you. I am NOT going to say your comments were rubbish. No. I won't as that would be rude and inconsiderate. |
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Post by toshtego on Oct 8, 2021 17:53:57 GMT -5
I talked with my MD about one problem and he recommended PT. Unfortunately, the local hospital PT department is not taking new patients except for post operation "specimens". WE are short on Orthopedists, too. I likely need an MRI and that means going into a plague ridden small regional hospital. Not worth the risk. I will find other solutions- Homeopathy, Witchcraft, etc. I went back to bed this morning and rose at 1400 hours. The extra sleep seems to have helped. Not so much pain just now. My MD, who is way older than me, told me to expect aches and pains. Part of being old!While he is right about age and pains..I don'[t pay a Dr. to tell me I'm gettin' older...I want answers as to how to combat the issues that interfere with my normal living arrangement. I had 2 Drs. that gave me that bullsh*t and I kicked them to the curb... I want answers not complacent BS. MY MD told me years ago, with my insurance (Medicare), not to expect much in the way of health care. Even with gap coverage, they pay out so little not many MDs wants to bother much. Now if I had medical insurance like an employee of the State of NM or the US Government, well, roll out the red carpet. Welcome stranger! I do the best I can with what I have. Blood clots are an issue and I can not take aspirin because my kidney disease. So far, Coumadin is not indicated. |
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Post by don on Oct 8, 2021 19:22:05 GMT -5
Nothing new under the sun. People have been bemoaning the state of the world since civilization began. Technology has always created not just improvements to the standard of living, but also dependency, lack of self-sufficiency and sometimes unforeseen problems and real harm. The wise man takes measures to retain or develop competencies in basic survival skills and not become overly dependent on high tech. I think you can enjoy the benefits of advanced technology without depending heavily on it to get by. I would bet 95% of Americans could not do even a tiny fraction of what the average farmer could in 1890. As a baby boomer child of parents who group up in the country and then became suburbanites when they started their family, I have spent much of my life learning how to do just some of what my grandparents knew how to do to get by.
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 9, 2021 11:44:04 GMT -5
While he is right about age and pains..I don'[t pay a Dr. to tell me I'm gettin' older...I want answers as to how to combat the issues that interfere with my normal living arrangement. I had 2 Drs. that gave me that bullsh*t and I kicked them to the curb... I want answers not complacent BS. MY MD told me years ago, with my insurance (Medicare), not to expect much in the way of health care. Even with gap coverage, they pay out so little not many MDs wants to bother much. Now if I had medical insurance like an employee of the State of NM or the US Government, well, roll out the red carpet. Welcome stranger! I do the best I can with what I have. Blood clots are an issue and I can not take aspirin because my kidney disease. So far, Coumadin is not indicated. I beg to differ. In Houston you can get treatment from some of the best doctors in the world and they take Medicare. We are doctor deficient here in East Texas, but they all take Medicare with no complaints. The doctor that removed my kidney was the head of the urology department of the Baylor College of Medicine. My neurologist was the head of the neurology department of Methodist Hospital. The doctor was just making a sorry excuse. |
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Post by toshtego on Oct 9, 2021 12:22:04 GMT -5
MY MD told me years ago, with my insurance (Medicare), not to expect much in the way of health care. Even with gap coverage, they pay out so little not many MDs wants to bother much. Now if I had medical insurance like an employee of the State of NM or the US Government, well, roll out the red carpet. Welcome stranger! I do the best I can with what I have. Blood clots are an issue and I can not take aspirin because my kidney disease. So far, Coumadin is not indicated. I beg to differ. In Houston you can get treatment from some of the best doctors in the world and they take Medicare. We are doctor deficient here in East Texas, but they all take Medicare with no complaints. The doctor that removed my kidney was the head of the urology department of the Baylor College of Medicine. My neurologist was the head of the neurology department of Methodist Hospital. The doctor was just making a sorry excuse. I forgot to add that one of the contributing issues here is that too many patients have no insurance and do not pay. Medicaid is another source of low fees. The point my MD was making had to do with the majority of patients being "underinsured". Perhaps in Texas there are enough other patients with better paying insurance to offset the low government program payments? |
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 9, 2021 12:23:55 GMT -5
Hard to say, but there are a lot of Saudis hanging around the lobby.
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Post by trailboss on Oct 9, 2021 13:43:26 GMT -5
Baylor… undoubtedly a prestigious institution, but did you ever watch the 2021 miniseries about Christopher Duntsch?
They dropped the ball big time, and Dr. Death (title of the show) was a criminal maniac… thanks to the administration of Baylor screwing the pooch.
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 9, 2021 14:11:13 GMT -5
Baylor… undoubtedly a prestigious institution, but did you ever watch the 2021 miniseries about Christopher Duntsch? They dropped the ball big time, and Dr. Death (title of the show) was a criminal maniac… thanks to the administration of Baylor screwing the pooch. Glad to say that he never treated me. He's currently a resident of the "Walls", where death row prisoners are housed until moved to the Death Row. It's a pretty terrible place. We researched all of our doctors before we went to them. |
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Post by trailboss on Oct 9, 2021 21:35:07 GMT -5
Baylor… undoubtedly a prestigious institution, but did you ever watch the 2021 miniseries about Christopher Duntsch? They dropped the ball big time, and Dr. Death (title of the show) was a criminal maniac… thanks to the administration of Baylor screwing the pooch. Glad to say that he never treated me. He's currently a resident of the "Walls", where death row prisoners are housed until moved to the Death Row. It's a pretty terrible place. We researched all of our doctors before we went to them. Always a good thing to do, my wife almost lost her life twice in the hospital. You really have to ride herd on the situation or have an advocate doing so for you when incapacitated, or just in rough shape. |
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