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msokeefe
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Question on Presbyterian mixture Mar 21, 2022 10:01:39 GMT -5 Ronv69, Gandalf, and 1 more like this

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Post by msokeefe on Mar 21, 2022 10:01:39 GMT -5

Right now I am smoking Presbyterian Mixture in a Savinelli Trevi 310 KS poker. According to Tobacco Reviews, it lists the blend as Latakia, Oriental/Turkish, Virginia. What makes the blend so sweet tasting?

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Question on Presbyterian mixture Mar 21, 2022 10:08:36 GMT -5 Ronv69, Professor S., and 2 more like this

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Post by trailboss on Mar 21, 2022 10:08:36 GMT -5

My palate is not calibrated to catch all the nuances, but here is what Jim says:

The major component is the grassy, tart and tangy citrus sweet Virginia which forms the base of this blend that the other tobaccos play off. The Orientals are mildly woody with a little earth, spice, herbalness, vegetation, and a hint of floral and sourness. They underscore every puff at their least noticeable and at its peak, offers an interesting contrast to the Virginias. The smokey, woody, earthy, musty, sweet Cyprian Latakia is condimental at best, and is occasionally a little elusive in the back ground. The strength and taste levels are medium. The nic-hit is just past the center of mild to medium. Not much complexity, but this thin ribbon cut blend burns cool, and clean at a slightly fast pace with a mildly sweet, spicy savory flavor. Requires few relights. No harsh spots to be found, and it won’t bite. Leaves just a little dampness in the bottom of the bowl, which won’t interfere with your experience. Has a mildly sweet, lightly spice after taste, and a light campfire room note. Close to being an all day smoke, and may well be one for those who are used to heavier English blends.

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Question on Presbyterian mixture Mar 21, 2022 13:39:24 GMT -5 via mobile

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Mar 21, 2022 10:08:36 GMT -5 trailboss said:

My palate is not calibrated to catch all the nuances, but here is what Jim says:

The major component is the grassy, tart and tangy citrus sweet Virginia which forms the base of this blend that the other tobaccos play off. The Orientals are mildly woody with a little earth, spice, herbalness, vegetation, and a hint of floral and sourness. They underscore every puff at their least noticeable and at its peak, offers an interesting contrast to the Virginias. The smokey, woody, earthy, musty, sweet Cyprian Latakia is condimental at best, and is occasionally a little elusive in the back ground. The strength and taste levels are medium. The nic-hit is just past the center of mild to medium. Not much complexity, but this thin ribbon cut blend burns cool, and clean at a slightly fast pace with a mildly sweet, spicy savory flavor. Requires few relights. No harsh spots to be found, and it won’t bite. Leaves just a little dampness in the bottom of the bowl, which won’t interfere with your experience. Has a mildly sweet, lightly spice after taste, and a light campfire room note. Close to being an all day smoke, and may well be one for those who are used to heavier English blends.

-JimInks

www.tobaccoreviews.com/blend/1206/planta-presbyterian-mixture

I get citrus when I smoke Va, not really sweet. Maybe. It is me?

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Question on Presbyterian mixture Mar 21, 2022 14:56:23 GMT -5 Ronv69, urbino, and 1 more like this

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Mar 21, 2022 13:43:45 GMT -5 trailboss said:

It could be, Darin had commented in the past about how ones ph balance can really affect the taste, affecting how a particular blend can vary from smoker to smoker.

I got a vivid reminder of that a few years ago, when I started a course of antibiotics after some dental work. The two blends I was smoking at the time suddenly tasted totally different. At the moment I don't remember the specifics of one of them, but the Solent Mixture tasted like salt. Very strange experience.

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Mar 21, 2022 14:56:23 GMT -5 rastewart said:

Mar 21, 2022 13:43:45 GMT -5 trailboss said:

It could be, Darin had commented in the past about how ones ph balance can really affect the taste, affecting how a particular blend can vary from smoker to smoker.

I got a vivid reminder of that a few years ago, when I started a course of antibiotics after some dental work. The two blends I was smoking at the time suddenly tasted totally different. At the moment I don't remember the specifics of one of them, but the Solent Mixture tasted like salt. Very strange experience.

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Question on Presbyterian mixture Apr 4, 2022 18:11:03 GMT -5 trailboss, Ronv69, and 1 more like this

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Post by johnlawitzke on Apr 4, 2022 18:11:03 GMT -5

Light Virginia tends to be citrus and grass. Dark Virginia tends to be sweet. Young Virginia will be sweeter than aged Virginia due to fermentation.

I don’t get sweet when I smoke Presbyterian. Although, I don’t like it young and age my tins at least a year before popping.

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Question on Presbyterian mixture Apr 4, 2022 19:08:26 GMT -5 via mobile Ronv69 and johnlawitzke like this

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Post by msokeefe on Apr 4, 2022 19:08:26 GMT -5

Apr 4, 2022 18:11:03 GMT -5 johnlawitzke said:

Light Virginia tends to be citrus and grass. Dark Virginia tends to be sweet. Young Virginia will be sweeter than aged Virginia due to fermentation.

I don’t get sweet when I smoke Presbyterian. Although, I don’t like it young and age my tins at least a year before popping.

Strange isn’t it? As soon as it arrives, Father Dempsey and Presbyterian tastes sweet to me. I have only been pipe smoking for 6 months.

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Question on Presbyterian mixture Apr 4, 2022 20:18:12 GMT -5 via mobile Ronv69 and johnlawitzke like this

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Post by msokeefe on Apr 4, 2022 20:18:12 GMT -5

Apr 4, 2022 18:11:03 GMT -5 johnlawitzke said:

Light Virginia tends to be citrus and grass. Dark Virginia tends to be sweet. Young Virginia will be sweeter than aged Virginia due to fermentation.

I don’t get sweet when I smoke Presbyterian. Although, I don’t like it young and age my tins at least a year before popping.

Very good info, thanks!

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Post by msokeefe on Mar 21, 2022 10:01:39 GMT -5

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Post by rastewart on Mar 21, 2022 14:56:23 GMT -5

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Post by peteguy on Mar 26, 2022 21:43:41 GMT -5

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