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Post by msokeefe on Jun 16, 2022 21:30:13 GMT -5
A few weeks ago I bought a Petersen blasted Irish Harp 701 pot/tankard from smoking dollars. I have smoked a few bowls in it. Tonight I realized the pipe bowl is misshaped. Look at how thin the bowl is at 10 O’Clock. It is a lot thinner.  |
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Post by Silver on Jun 16, 2022 21:45:27 GMT -5
I have a 701, too. Does the same thing @ 2 o'clock, just not to that extent. The shank is smaller than the band also. Just part of its rustic charm, I suppose.  |
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Post by trailboss on Jun 16, 2022 22:08:23 GMT -5
If you are not happy with it upon receipt, I would contact them.
I would expect them to make your purchase a satisfying one.
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Post by Zach on Jun 16, 2022 23:20:45 GMT -5
Their quality control is seriously slack. That's why I avoid Peterson unless I can find a deal on a solid and old estate. Those are now too pricey as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2022 2:52:02 GMT -5
This pipe should not have left the factory.
From the recent samples I have seen and purchased over the last couple of years, or so, need I say Peterson has started to suck at unprecedented levels?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2022 2:56:42 GMT -5
How about that? Does that suck enough (Deluxe 9s w/silver cap)?  |
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Post by msokeefe on Jun 17, 2022 5:41:45 GMT -5
I am an idiot. I didn’t notice it until I put a few bowls through it. A few months ago I bought a spigot pipe. The stem and shank were so crooked. I saw it right away and sent it back. I am done with Peterson.
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Post by Zach on Jun 17, 2022 9:34:24 GMT -5
No, you're not an idiot for expecting a nice pipe when you pay that much money for one. I was going to list numerous examples of issues but I would ramble on. The stain runs, the racing green pipes fade away within just a few years, poor drilling/shaping, etc.
It's different when you can hold the pipe in your hand and examine it, and like I said, the old and the "Pre-Republic" Pete's are what you really want. Some people seem to love the newer Pete's.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2022 9:49:20 GMT -5
I am an idiot. I didn’t notice it until I put a few bowls through it. A few months ago I bought a spigot pipe. The stem and shank were so crooked. I saw it right away and sent it back. I am done with Peterson. No, you are not. Some things are never that obvious right off the bat, bud. It happened to me more than once, in the past, because I was not granting all my attention to inspecting the pipe. |
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Post by sperrytops on Jun 17, 2022 9:51:36 GMT -5
If I recall correctly, SP is supposed to post images of the actual pipe they are selling on their website. I would look at the pictures they showed of the pipe you purchased. And call them. Their customer service is reasonable. They should do something about it. I presume its not an estate. If it was irregularities would be noted in the description.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2022 9:51:43 GMT -5
No, you're not an idiot for expecting a nice pipe when you pay that much money for one. I was going to list numerous examples of issues but I would ramble on. The stain runs, the racing green pipes fade away within just a few years, poor drilling/shaping, etc. It's different when you can hold the pipe in your hand and examine it, and like I said, the old and the "Pre-Republic" Pete's are what you really want. Some people seem to love the newer Pete's. I have had my fingers smothered with stain 1/2 dozen times with Peterson pipes, just over the last 2 years. Even the 2 POTY Heritage I bought. If there's any idiot around, it would be me, for continuing having bought from them after that. |
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Post by Zach on Jun 17, 2022 9:52:09 GMT -5
How about that? Does that suck enough (Deluxe 9s w/silver cap)? Claude, I would have sent that one back, knowing how much those silver capped pipes cost. I've made several people mad when I say this, but all the Peterson pipes tend to look like a $50 basket pipe to me in design and shaping (excluding the highest end silver capped pipes) and I can't understand why they started commanding over $120-150 pricetag when they also have all the quality control issues the past decade. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2022 9:53:30 GMT -5
If I recall correctly, SP is supposed to post images of the actual pipe they are selling on their website. I would look at the pictures they showed of the pipe you purchased. And call them. Their customer service is reasonable. They should do something about it. I presume its not an estate. If it was irregularities would be noted in the description. The issue is there are are no photos of the top of the pipe for pipes at that price, just views of the left and right sides. |
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Post by Zach on Jun 17, 2022 9:56:13 GMT -5
No, you're not an idiot for expecting a nice pipe when you pay that much money for one. I was going to list numerous examples of issues but I would ramble on. The stain runs, the racing green pipes fade away within just a few years, poor drilling/shaping, etc. It's different when you can hold the pipe in your hand and examine it, and like I said, the old and the "Pre-Republic" Pete's are what you really want. Some people seem to love the newer Pete's. I have had my fingers smothered with stain 1/2 dozen times with Peterson pipes, just over the last 2 years. Even the 2 POTY Heritage I bought. If there's any idiot around, it would be me, for continuing having bought from them after that. A buddy of mine who only got into pipesmoking a few years ago had some bad stained up fingers from a Pete he bought early 2021 and he says his hands weren't wet, or moist, or sweaty in any way when it happened. He sent me pictures one day and it just said "Is this normal?" and stain was all over his hand. I told him to send the pipe back, apologized for not steering him away from Peterson beforehand. The POTY pipe last fall, absurd price for what looks like a basket pipe. I made Jim and a few others a bit angry when I trash talked those pipes on release, but I would probably think they were alright if I received several of them for free as well. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2022 10:19:43 GMT -5
I have had my fingers smothered with stain 1/2 dozen times with Peterson pipes, just over the last 2 years. Even the 2 POTY Heritage I bought. If there's any idiot around, it would be me, for continuing having bought from them after that. A buddy of mine who only got into pipesmoking a few years ago had some bad stained up fingers from a Pete he bought early 2021 and he says his hands weren't wet, or moist, or sweaty in any way when it happened. He sent me pictures one day and it just said "Is this normal?" and stain was all over his hand. I told him to send the pipe back, apologized for not steering him away from Peterson beforehand. The POTY pipe last fall, absurd price for what looks like a basket pipe. I made Jim and a few others a bit angry when I trash talked those pipes on release, but I would probably think they were alright if I received several of them for free as well. Man, I love your honesty. And I fully agree with what you say about how getting freebies influences one's verdict. I do like the POTY shape but they are not good smokers at all. |
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Post by sperrytops on Jun 17, 2022 10:22:49 GMT -5
Sorry to hear about the issue with Peterson's, lordguyrox. Sadly, your complaints aren't blowing alone in the wind. While many people have Petersons that are great, many more don't. I saw an interview with Shane Ireland of Smokngpipes not long ago, and he said that since Laudisi's purchase of Peterson's pipes (they also own Smokingpipes) they have worked on quality control issues. Apparently not enough. They are also putting out supposed high quality $400 pipes, which I wouldn't go near with a ten foot pole.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2022 10:29:26 GMT -5
How about that? Does that suck enough (Deluxe 9s w/silver cap)? Claude, I would have sent that one back, knowing how much those silver capped pipes cost. I've made several people mad when I say this, but all the Peterson pipes tend to look like a $50 basket pipe to me in design and shaping (excluding the highest end silver capped pipes) and I can't understand why they started commanding over $120-150 pricetag when they also have all the quality control issues the past decade. It has been sent back for this, and because it was not even the one I bought which I received. But I don't have much hopes for the supposedly actual one I bought, that they managed to find and sent my way. I have also a 20s and it's never worth even 1/2 the price I paid for it, as far as I'm concerned. Again, I agree. Their production is botched up to me. They don't even seem to give a damn, from the pipes I see on the sites. Proportions are wrong and out to whack. My impression is that Laudisi is focused on max production, thus maximum profits, and damn the rest, in this case, the customer. Which, from my experience, is also what happened when they purchased C & D. I loved their products and was forced to give up on them fairly quickly after the acquisition. I can understand, if someone only smokes Petersons, that he finds them 'great'. But, when you have explored other brands, the opinion is very different. I have given Peterson many chances throughout the years but it's time for me to stick to my Dunnies, from now on. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2022 10:31:51 GMT -5
Sorry to hear about the issue with Peterson's, lordguyrox. Sadly, your complaints aren't blowing alone in the wind. While many people have Petersons that are great, many more don't. I saw an interview with Shane Ireland of Smokngpipes not long ago, and he said that since Laudisi's purchase of Peterson's pipes (they also own Smokingpipes) they have worked on quality control issues. Apparently not enough. They are also putting out supposed high quality $400 pipes, which I wouldn't go near with a ten foot pole. All they do, QC wise, is talk about it. They haven't really done a thing besides drillings that are a bit better and, even that, not so much, from the result on my 20s. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2022 10:35:15 GMT -5
In other words, I have been sorely disappointed with everything I bought from Peterson over the last 10 years, or so.
To me, they are nothing but a shame to the pipe industry.
Yes, I'm a bit peed but I spent a lot of money on that brand.
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Post by Zach on Jun 17, 2022 10:41:15 GMT -5
With all that said, it's becoming increasingly hard to find high quality in anything at all produced anymore these days. We've gotta smoke what we like and find comfort somewhere. I just wish the low quality issue wasn't creeping into pipes. This, coming from a guy who loves old Dr. Grabows, Medico's, and Kaywoodie pipes. I love the old coupon mail order pipes! They are great smokers!
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Post by Ronv69 on Jun 17, 2022 10:45:20 GMT -5
I like Peterson pipes and I think never had my fingers stained. I probably have 15 or more. I still wouldn't buy another one without examining it in person.
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Post by Butch Cassidy on Jun 17, 2022 13:59:57 GMT -5
Once you smoke it ....it's too late.
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Post by trailboss on Jun 17, 2022 14:08:23 GMT -5
Once you smoke it ....it's too late. Sadly true, unless you have a burnout But yeah, it is up to the buyer to check it out before smoking. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2022 14:22:51 GMT -5
With all that said, it's becoming increasingly hard to find high quality in anything at all produced anymore these days. We've gotta smoke what we like and find comfort somewhere. I just wish the low quality issue wasn't creeping into pipes. This, coming from a guy who loves old Dr. Grabows, Medico's, and Kaywoodie pipes. I love the old coupon mail order pipes! They are great smokers! That is true. In 2018, I purchased several Savinellis, from the basic series such as Dolomiti, Bianca, Marte, Oceano, Tortuga, etc., and some Punto Oros, all with a 6mm filter. Even the basic series all had a little note saying their briar had at least 3 years of age. And they smoked well. Late 2020, I tried the 9mm filter, so I bought a dozen or so of Savinellis: some Tortugo, Eleganza, Alligator Brown, etc. Those little notes weren't there anymore and they didn't smoke as well, either, to my appreciation. There's a rumor that runs to the effect that the briar stock has gone exponentially down, leaving less good quality briar. I can't say as I'm not in the industry. |
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Post by john on Jul 10, 2022 14:26:53 GMT -5
If you are not happy with it upon receipt, I would contact them. I would expect them to make your purchase a satisfying one. Yeah Charlie, good luck with that one! I have a Peterson disappointment Racing Green #69 that is fading badly. ALL my attempts to get Peterson to address the issue fell on deaf ears. Got NO response to emails. While most of their older pipes smoke good the newer ones fall short in many ways... Just my humble opinion... |
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Post by cigrmaster on Jul 12, 2022 17:00:59 GMT -5
A few weeks ago I bought a Petersen blasted Irish Harp 701 pot/tankard from smoking dollars. I have smoked a few bowls in it. Tonight I realized the pipe bowl is misshaped. Look at how thin the bowl is at 10 O’Clock. It is a lot thinner. I am not trying to be a dick, but it is your fault you ended up with that piece of shite. When buying a pipe, you need to do your due diligence. If you don't then you eat what ever they sent you and you are stuck with it. Why anyone would buy a Peterson in the first place I will never know why. Their pipes suck, their quality control sucks. They are a 20.00 basket pipe and that is it. |
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Post by msokeefe on Jul 15, 2022 18:22:15 GMT -5
A few weeks ago I bought a Petersen blasted Irish Harp 701 pot/tankard from smoking dollars. I have smoked a few bowls in it. Tonight I realized the pipe bowl is misshaped. Look at how thin the bowl is at 10 O’Clock. It is a lot thinner. I am not trying to be a dick, but it is your fault you ended up with that piece of shite. When buying a pipe, you need to do your due diligence. If you don't then you eat what ever they sent you and you are stuck with it. Why anyone would buy a Peterson in the first place I will never know why. Their pipes suck, their quality control sucks. They are a 20.00 basket pipe and that is it. No sh*t Sherlock. I didn’t check it over well and smoked it. I know I cannot get my money back. When you buy a pipe from smoking pipes, if it isn’t to your satisfaction, no questions asked, they will take it back. My whole reason for the post was to point out poor quality. I got the pipe while my father was dying in the hospital, so I was not on my game. |
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