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Post by djo on Jul 2, 2022 18:56:12 GMT -5
I am re-reading 1984. Something popped out at me. Winston says that the pipe tobacco ration is only 100 grams per week. This sounded like a reasonable amount to me, but I wasn't sure exactly how much I go through. Like most of us, I keep several tobaccos in rotation, so it's hard to judge exactly how much I smoke.
I took a 50 gram tin (for this experiment I chose Royal Yacht) and smoked nothing but it until it ran out. I started with the first bowl on Wednesday morning, and I just smoked the last of it on Saturday evening. So, 50 grams lasts me four days. 100 grams for a week would be about right.
I consider myself to be a moderate smoker. Most days I have five bowls, sometimes that creeps up to six.
I did a little research, and apparently, in World War I, American soldiers were issued cigarettes, but British soldiers were issued pipe tobacco at a rate of two ounces per day. To go through two ounces in a day (that would be 56 grams) you would have to do nothing but smoke. I ask those of you who've been around a while: did people used to smoke a lot more than they do now?
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Post by urbino on Jul 2, 2022 20:12:12 GMT -5
Tobacco might not have had much shelf pocket life in those wet trenches.
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Post by Zach on Jul 2, 2022 20:34:26 GMT -5
Most pipe smokers would smoke all day long throughout everything they did like a cigarette smoker. Only in the past twenty years has pipe smoking morphed into a "hobby."
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Post by roadsdiverged on Jul 2, 2022 20:44:04 GMT -5
If I had it my way, I'd have a pipe lit as long as my eyes were open.
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Post by Silver on Jul 2, 2022 20:55:12 GMT -5
Two ounces of tobacco a day, and wet matches, would be my luck.
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Post by Legend Lover on Jul 3, 2022 8:15:38 GMT -5
That's a crazy amount. I'd make a LOT of friends if that was the case.
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Post by chasingembers on Jul 3, 2022 12:15:41 GMT -5
Most pipe smokers would smoke all day long throughout everything they did like a cigarette smoker. That's me. I go through about two pounds per month. |
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Post by sperrytops on Jul 4, 2022 12:12:46 GMT -5
I really don't smoke more than one bowl per day, sometimes skipping. Except on days, however, when Ted comes over for a smoking holiday.
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Post by Gypo on Jul 4, 2022 20:39:02 GMT -5
I really don't smoke more than one bowl per day, sometimes skipping. Except on days, however, when Ted comes over for a smoking holiday. Those days I have a few more bowls also. My max is 6 or 7 my average day is two one after lunch on the landing and one in the evening after sharpening chains but today it was me and Little Guy all day Deere worked so none yet. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2022 20:58:09 GMT -5
In the updated 1984 version (21st century) coming to a real-life theatre near you, the tobacco ration will be: нуль (zero). As for back then, considering people could smoke about everywhere, including work, one had many more opportunities to light up every day. However, 2oz would be a lot to smoke in one day.
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Post by Plainsman on Jul 4, 2022 21:22:15 GMT -5
I think the British Army figured that a generous ration was money well spent as against idle, bored soldiers.
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Post by Zach on Jul 5, 2022 13:24:19 GMT -5
Pre-1980's, most of the "pipe tobacco" was also cigarette tobacco and they likely were also given rolling papers and smoked cigarettes out of it as well. Would go very quickly smoking 15-20 cigarettes a day.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2022 14:31:35 GMT -5
Let's not forget nicotine's many benefits against anxiety, depression, etc. The tobacco distributed was very helpful for soldiers to be able to cope with the incredible stress they were subjected to.
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Post by cigrmaster on Jul 6, 2022 12:15:48 GMT -5
I smoke around 10-12 pounds a year and built my cellar so I can continue this pace for over 20 years.
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Post by djo on Jul 6, 2022 14:42:01 GMT -5
In the updated 1984 version (21st century) coming to a real-life theatre near you, the tobacco ration will be: нуль (zero). As for back then, considering people could smoke about everywhere, including work, one had many more opportunities to light up every day. However, 2oz would be a lot to smoke in one day. That's just too perfect. As i'm sure you're aware, a major theme in 1984 is re-writing the past so it can be more in line with Party doctrine. Eliminating tobacco from a book published in the 1940s just because tobacco is unpopular today fits right in there. |
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Post by Professor S. on Jul 9, 2022 17:28:55 GMT -5
I am re-reading 1984. Something popped out at me. Winston says that the pipe tobacco ration is only 100 grams per week. This sounded like a reasonable amount to me, but I wasn't sure exactly how much I go through. Like most of us, I keep several tobaccos in rotation, so it's hard to judge exactly how much I smoke. I took a 50 gram tin (for this experiment I chose Royal Yacht) and smoked nothing but it until it ran out. I started with the first bowl on Wednesday morning, and I just smoked the last of it on Saturday evening. So, 50 grams lasts me four days. 100 grams for a week would be about right. I consider myself to be a moderate smoker. Most days I have five bowls, sometimes that creeps up to six. I did a little research, and apparently, in World War I, American soldiers were issued cigarettes, but British soldiers were issued pipe tobacco at a rate of two ounces per day. To go through two ounces in a day (that would be 56 grams) you would have to do nothing but smoke. I ask those of you who've been around a while: did people used to smoke a lot more than they do now? I smoke 2-3 bowls a day on average. 100 grams converts to about 3.5 ounces, which would last me near a fortnight. Like Legend Lover I'd have plenty of pipe-smoking friends if 100g/week was my ration. OTOH, if it was primarily Burley-based blends I'd probably give up the pipe altogether. I still can't bring myself to like the stuff. |
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Post by john on Jul 10, 2022 14:12:15 GMT -5
When I worked as a diesel mechanic back in the 70’s and 80’s I would smoke a pipe all day as I did my work. My consumption was a 14oz can of Borkum Riff Whiskey or Original every 4 to 6 weeks... Now not so much, maybe 50 to 75 grams a week...
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Post by terrapinflyer on Jul 12, 2022 13:07:03 GMT -5
My Dad went through a tub of Borkum Riff, Amphora, or CBW seemingly every week. I'm not in that league, partly because pipes aren't welcome indoors and partly because I snuff.
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Post by Plainsman on Jul 12, 2022 13:35:31 GMT -5
Your secret is out! Do you take any contract, or do you specialize?
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Post by terrapinflyer on Jul 12, 2022 13:47:19 GMT -5
Only if it's filmed?
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Post by Ronv69 on Jul 12, 2022 13:51:04 GMT -5
Do you know a guy named Hunter? |
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Post by jeffd on Jul 12, 2022 14:30:09 GMT -5
Christopher Morley: This is the schedule I vouch for: After breakfast: 2 pipes At luncheon: 2 pipes Before dinner: 2 pipes Between dinner and bed: 10 to 12 pipes (Cigars and cigarettes as occasion may require.) From his essay Shandygaff which is here www.online-literature.com/morley/shandygaff/18/ |
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Post by don on Jul 12, 2022 22:53:19 GMT -5
I am re-reading 1984. Something popped out at me. Winston says that the pipe tobacco ration is only 100 grams per week. This sounded like a reasonable amount to me, but I wasn't sure exactly how much I go through. Like most of us, I keep several tobaccos in rotation, so it's hard to judge exactly how much I smoke. I took a 50 gram tin (for this experiment I chose Royal Yacht) and smoked nothing but it until it ran out. I started with the first bowl on Wednesday morning, and I just smoked the last of it on Saturday evening. So, 50 grams lasts me four days. 100 grams for a week would be about right. I consider myself to be a moderate smoker. Most days I have five bowls, sometimes that creeps up to six. I did a little research, and apparently, in World War I, American soldiers were issued cigarettes, but British soldiers were issued pipe tobacco at a rate of two ounces per day. To go through two ounces in a day (that would be 56 grams) you would have to do nothing but smoke. I ask those of you who've been around a while: did people used to smoke a lot more than they do now? |
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Post by don on Jul 12, 2022 22:53:38 GMT -5
100 grams lasts me a month.
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Post by Zach on Jan 31, 2023 19:01:23 GMT -5
In the updated 1984 version (21st century) coming to a real-life theatre near you, the tobacco ration will be: нуль (zero). As for back then, considering people could smoke about everywhere, including work, one had many more opportunities to light up every day. However, 2oz would be a lot to smoke in one day. That's just too perfect. As i'm sure you're aware, a major theme in 1984 is re-writing the past so it can be more in line with Party doctrine. Eliminating tobacco from a book published in the 1940s just because tobacco is unpopular today fits right in there. I've just read through most of William Gibson's (Cyberpunk Sci-Fi) novels over the past year and a common theme later on is how cigarettes/pipes and tobacco in general become illegal and they start to edit them out of movies and books and such. |
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Post by turbocat on Jan 31, 2023 19:18:04 GMT -5
Walt Disney was a chain smoker and was known to always have a cigarette in his hand, yet in nearly all photos of him, the cigarettes have been removed. It accounts for the somewhat odd poses his hands are in. In 2007, Disney banned all smoking in their movies. When they produced Saving Mr. Banks, Walt Disney was depicted as a non-smoker.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 31, 2023 20:49:41 GMT -5
That's just too perfect. As i'm sure you're aware, a major theme in 1984 is re-writing the past so it can be more in line with Party doctrine. Eliminating tobacco from a book published in the 1940s just because tobacco is unpopular today fits right in there. I've just read through most of William Gibson's (Cyberpunk Sci-Fi) novels over the past year and a common theme later on is how cigarettes/pipes and tobacco in general become illegal and they start to edit them out of movies and books and such. He smokes cigarettes and he doesn't care if it's league legal or not. I like his books, but I don't want to know anything more about him. |
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Post by trailboss on Jan 31, 2023 21:26:23 GMT -5
I would keep my head down a lot if I was smoking two ounces in a WWI trench.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 31, 2023 22:02:58 GMT -5
I would keep my head down a lot if I was smoking two ounces in a WWI trench. 2 guys with rifles. Take turns holding up the cig on a stick while the other guy watches for the muzzle flash. |
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Post by john on Feb 4, 2023 12:27:12 GMT -5
Getting the day started with some PS English Oriental Supreme in an Astley's 109 Jermyn SI... A large black coffee on the side...  |
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