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Post by wayne1963 on Aug 17, 2022 7:09:13 GMT -5
I'm new to pipe smoking and all is going well, except for the last bit of the bowl. It takes constant messaging to keep lit, so it's too hot and not enjoyable. This happens less with my cob pipes vs my meerschaum. Any ideas?
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Post by Goldbrick on Aug 17, 2022 8:50:04 GMT -5
Much of the time I have the same problem. Many smokers smoke every bowl right down to the last bits, but I'm not one of them. When things get hot and unenjoyable, I dump it. the pipe is about enjoyment, not rules.
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Post by trailboss on Aug 17, 2022 8:51:19 GMT -5
I cannot say why you have this problem more so with briar than cob, but if I get to the point of that happening, I just dump the bowl. No extra points given to those that muscle their way through a bitter end.
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Post by joeman on Aug 17, 2022 8:59:10 GMT -5
Wayne, it could be a number of factors. It could be that the draft hole is drilled slightly high, where the air is not being drawn through the remaining tobacco, but "over" it. It could also be that the remaining tobacco is a bit more damp at the end, due to the moisture being produced during the smoke. That's the top 2 from my own experience. I agree with the others...don't be an end-of-the-bowl hero; enjoy the bowl and don't work too hard. ;-)
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Post by rectifythis on Aug 17, 2022 9:35:11 GMT -5
Depending on the pipe design and which tobacco I'm smoking, I've had occasional luck making it to the bottom, but much of the time I dump the last bit.
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Post by Plainsman on Aug 17, 2022 12:07:28 GMT -5
I signed no contract to smoke through the dottle. It’s been a filter for the rest of the bowl and I have no trouble dispatching it.
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Post by djo on Aug 17, 2022 14:18:01 GMT -5
I always have a little dottle. I dump the pipe when it gets really hard to relight. Obviously, larger pipes leave more dottle than smaller pipes.
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Post by sperrytops on Aug 17, 2022 14:30:50 GMT -5
If the bottom of the bowl gets rough, I dump it out. No point in fighting through it, too unpleasant. Usually the result of moisture buildup and the dottle acting as a filter through which everything else flows to get to you mouth. Like an oil filter. Better to gt rid of it than reuse it.
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 17, 2022 14:32:51 GMT -5
It happens
Dump it and don't look back. Welcome to the Patch!
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Post by Plainsman on Aug 17, 2022 15:18:25 GMT -5
I always have a little dottle. I dump the pipe when it gets really hard to relight. Obviously, larger pipes leave more dottle than smaller pipes. I haven’t found that to be true, and I smoke mostly big pipes. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 17, 2022 15:25:07 GMT -5
I always have a little dottle. I dump the pipe when it gets really hard to relight. Obviously, larger pipes leave more dottle than smaller pipes. I haven’t found that to be true, and I smoke mostly big pipes. I agree. I think that big pipes get more air to the bottom or something. Big pipes smoke better in general though. |
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Post by rastewart on Aug 17, 2022 15:31:59 GMT -5
I'm with the dump-the-dottle crowd. Other that, I'm just joining in to welcome you to the Patch. If you'd care to, hop over to the Welcome--Introduce Yourself board and say hello with a few words about yourself.
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Post by djo on Aug 17, 2022 16:50:28 GMT -5
I always have a little dottle. I dump the pipe when it gets really hard to relight. Obviously, larger pipes leave more dottle than smaller pipes. I haven’t found that to be true, and I smoke mostly big pipes. Really? I've noticed that I get significantly more dottle with larger pipes. I don't have any REALLY large pipes---all mine are small to mid sized---but my biggest ones tend to leave about twice as much dottle as my smaller ones. |
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Post by trailboss on Aug 17, 2022 17:38:46 GMT -5
I can see where a larger bowl might result that way, after all there is more tobacco in there. Of course there are variables that may play a part, moisture of tobacco, humidity level where you live, if you drool more into the stem, etc…
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Post by urbino on Aug 17, 2022 19:00:30 GMT -5
Consensus seems to be: don’t dawdle over the dottle.
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Post by Plainsman on Aug 17, 2022 20:43:59 GMT -5
Big pipe = bowl NST .85 x 2.00”.
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 17, 2022 20:49:21 GMT -5
I have tall, narrow stacks that never leave any dottle. I find that Virginias leave more dottle for me.
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Post by wayne1963 on Aug 17, 2022 21:16:44 GMT -5
Thanks for the replies fellas. Spoke to a long time piper and he taught me snorking and how to work the smoke better. I was simply puffing onto one spot of the tongue, so of course it was uncomfortable by the time the whole bowl was smoked. Now, the pipe is much more enjoyable due to the snorking. This may get addictive.
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 18, 2022 8:10:12 GMT -5
I don't often get dottle with a cob, but when I ever do (regardless of the pipe), I try lighting a couple of times, and then I dump and move on. No point suffering through something that isn't worth suffering through.
Welcome to the patch!
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Post by Zach on Aug 18, 2022 9:33:24 GMT -5
I haven’t found that to be true, and I smoke mostly big pipes. I agree. I think that big pipes get more air to the bottom or something. Big pipes smoke better in general though. It really boils down to the engineering of the draft hole and as joeman said, if the hole is drilled well into under the bottom of the bowl. If not, you'll always have dottle with that pipe where the hole is above the very bottom dimple of the bowl heel. Otherwise, my largest pipes are some of my best engineered and I'd also say larger pipes don't necessarily leave more dottle, it's the drilling and the drying, and the smoker. |
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Post by Zach on Aug 18, 2022 9:55:44 GMT -5
Consensus seems to be: don’t dawdle over the dottle. |
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Post by JimK on Aug 25, 2022 11:02:34 GMT -5
I remember this happening quite early in my pipe smoking days; a nasty, raspberry glop in the bottom of my pipe. A couple of things improved the situation: I quit buying cheap, drugstore pipe tobacco, and I bought a better quality briar pipe. I think the drier tobacco shop tobacco did the trick more than the higher end pipe. Still have that higher end pipe by the way.
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Post by terrapinflyer on Aug 25, 2022 14:52:09 GMT -5
Welcome!
I agree with the consensus, especially with burley. Sometimes I have a perfect bowl of Virginia that tastes awesome to the heel, though. So, I make an exception for new pipes--force myself to gently finish the first few bowls to start cake down there. Then when the perfect bowl happens, I don't worry* about it.
To paraphrase the great Charlie Papazian: Relax. Don't worry. Smoke a bowl.
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Post by chasingembers on Aug 29, 2022 0:31:21 GMT -5
Obviously, larger pipes leave more dottle than smaller pipes. My smallest pipes have a chamber depth of two inches and I've not found that to be true at all. |
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Post by chasingembers on Aug 29, 2022 0:32:29 GMT -5
Dry the tobacco more, and pack lighter. I generally smoke to the bottom of the chamber but end up getting some ash in my mouth before realizing that the pipe is finished.
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Post by djo on Aug 29, 2022 9:37:08 GMT -5
Hmmm. When I stated that larger pipes leave more dottle, several people disagreed with me. I was thinking about this while I had my after breakfast pipe today. This is what I came up with: it might be because I don't always smoke way down in to the heel. I dump the pipe when it becomes difficult to relight.
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 29, 2022 9:41:03 GMT -5
Hmmm. When I stated that larger pipes leave more dottle, several people disagreed with me. I was thinking about this while I had my after breakfast pipe today. This is what I came up with: it might be because I don't always smoke way down in to the heel. I dump the pipe when it becomes difficult to relight. It depends on the pipe. I have a big Preben Holm that I always end up sucking ash before I know that I'm at the end. A couple of Radices that do the same. Ropp cherry woods are very good about smoking to the bottom. |
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