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Post by darktater on Jan 4, 2023 19:59:53 GMT -5
Having been properly chastised by Ronv69...
just started Shelby Foote's The Civil War - A Narrative. Enjoying it so far.
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Post by trailboss on Jan 4, 2023 20:49:03 GMT -5
Having been properly chastised by Ronv69...
just started Shelby Foote's The Civil War - A Narrative. Enjoying it so far.
Hard to beat anything written by that guy. I believe JD from the country Squire said Shelby frequented the store in the past.
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Post by Zach on Jan 5, 2023 11:48:09 GMT -5
Just started Notes From Underground & The Grand Inquisitor by Fyodor Dostoevsky with relevant works by Chernyshevsky and Shchedrin which were opposition to Dostoevsky's human ideals within Notes From Underground
N.G. Chernyshevsky had written What is to be done? which infuriated Dostoevsky, as he thought just about everything written in the book was false. He went on to poke satire at Chernyshevsky with Notes. Nikolai Chernyshevsky had written What is to be Done? in response to Fathers and Sons by Ivan Turgenev and these inspired many other Russian revolutionaries and suggested a form of socialist utopianism. Ayn Rand, Peter Kropotkin, Vladimir Lenin, Rosa Luxemburg, Alexandra Kollontai and countless revisions of anarchists, utopianists, socialists, nihilists, and Marxists looked to and referenced Turgenev and Chernyshevsky. Dostoevsky mocked them and thought them entirely wrong.
This is the Dutton paperback edition from 1960, translated by Constance Garnett and revised again by Ralph E. Matlaw.
Still reading short stories by Ray Bradbury as well but will be returning that book to the library in the next couple days and coming back to it at some point.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 5, 2023 13:53:12 GMT -5
The Nick Adams Stories by Ernest Hemingway. Really good, really short stories, mostly based on his youth.
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Post by darktater on Jan 5, 2023 15:04:09 GMT -5
The Nick Adams Stories by Ernest Hemingway. Really good, really short stories, mostly based on his youth. my favorites short stories, enjoy!
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 5, 2023 16:44:39 GMT -5
The Nick Adams Stories by Ernest Hemingway. Really good, really short stories, mostly based on his youth. my favorites short stories, enjoy!
I am! 😁
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Post by toshtego on Jan 5, 2023 18:08:39 GMT -5
Having been properly chastised by Ronv69 ...
just started Shelby Foote's The Civil War - A Narrative. Enjoying it so far.
Is that the two volume account? I have only Volume 2 left as I loaned Volume 1 and it was never returned. Excellent authoritative account. He does his best to be objective and even charitable when blood is their argument. (thank you w. Shakespeare). “But if the cause be not good, the king himself hath a heavy reckoning to make, when all those legs and arms and heads, chopped off in battle, shall join together at the latter day and cry all 'We died at such a place;' some swearing, some crying for a surgeon, some upon their wives left poor behind them, some upon the debts they owe, some upon their children rawly left. I am afeard there are few die well that die in a battle; for how can they charitably dispose of anything, when blood is their argument? Now, if these men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the king that led them to it; whom to disobey were against all proportion of subjection. Henry V Act IV, Scene 1
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Post by Silver on Jan 5, 2023 18:51:39 GMT -5
Reading a bit of "The Peterson Pipe - The Story of Kapp & Peterson". This behavior will surely result in contracting the Irish strain of PAD.
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Post by darktater on Jan 5, 2023 18:56:28 GMT -5
Having been properly chastised by Ronv69 ...
just started Shelby Foote's The Civil War - A Narrative. Enjoying it so far.
Is that the two volume account? I have only Volume 2 left as I loaned Volume 1 and it was never returned. Excellent authoritative account. He does his best to be objective and even charitable when blood is their argument. (thank you w. Shakespeare). “But if the cause be not good, the king himself hath a heavy reckoning to make, when all those legs and arms and heads, chopped off in battle, shall join together at the latter day and cry all 'We died at such a place;' some swearing, some crying for a surgeon, some upon their wives left poor behind them, some upon the debts they owe, some upon their children rawly left. I am afeard there are few die well that die in a battle; for how can they charitably dispose of anything, when blood is their argument? Now, if these men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the king that led them to it; whom to disobey were against all proportion of subjection. Henry V Act IV, Scene 1 it is the 3 volume set, should hold me for a bit ;-)
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Post by trailboss on Jan 5, 2023 20:08:18 GMT -5
“ I have only Volume 2 left as I loaned Volume 1 and it was never returned. ”
That really sucks. I have loaned rare books to people (and other forms of media), and they were never returned… by people that have great character otherwise.
Very picky now.
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Post by trailboss on Jan 5, 2023 20:09:08 GMT -5
Reading a bit of "The Peterson Pipe - The Story of Kapp & Peterson". This behavior will surely result in contracting the Irish strain of PAD. A great read, indeed!
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Post by Zach on Jan 5, 2023 20:57:35 GMT -5
Starting to pick up the majority of the remaining top classic literature of all time, piece mealing a book or three here and there from a couple of my used bookstores, ebay, and online book dealers. Especially for the classics, I'm only trying to pay a couple dollars for them and often find them way overpriced. Picked up unabridged The Three Musketeers by Alexandre Dumas for $3 as a Signet Classic in perfect condition, clearly never read, the paperback spine isn't even cracked.
The Decameron by Giovanni Boccaccio for $3 also in nearly perfect condition and clearly never read. A Penguin Classics paperback. Candide by Voltaire as a perfect conditon Barnes and Noble classics in hardback for $3. They were strangely selling a crappy and worn older paperback version of this same book for $5 right next to it. Some in this series they purposely printed to look like old bindings; the pages are uneven along the opening edge and it's of a thick paper-weight and I expect them to last decades.
Not sure yet what I'll read next after finishing where I'm at currently.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 5, 2023 21:09:12 GMT -5
Having been properly chastised by Ronv69 ...
just started Shelby Foote's The Civil War - A Narrative. Enjoying it so far.
Is that the two volume account? I have only Volume 2 left as I loaned Volume 1 and it was never returned. Excellent authoritative account. He does his best to be objective and even charitable when blood is their argument. (thank you w. Shakespeare). “But if the cause be not good, the king himself hath a heavy reckoning to make, when all those legs and arms and heads, chopped off in battle, shall join together at the latter day and cry all 'We died at such a place;' some swearing, some crying for a surgeon, some upon their wives left poor behind them, some upon the debts they owe, some upon their children rawly left. I am afeard there are few die well that die in a battle; for how can they charitably dispose of anything, when blood is their argument? Now, if these men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the king that led them to it; whom to disobey were against all proportion of subjection. Henry V Act IV, Scene 1 If only politicians could read.
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Post by darktater on Jan 5, 2023 21:17:34 GMT -5
If only politicians could read. It would be handy if voters could read as well...
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 5, 2023 21:46:36 GMT -5
Starting to pick up the majority of the remaining top classic literature of all time, piece mealing a book or three here and there from a couple of my used bookstores, ebay, and online book dealers. Especially for the classics, I'm only trying to pay a couple dollars for them and often find them way overpriced. Picked up unabridged The Three Musketeers by Alexandre Dumas for $3 as a Signet Classic in perfect condition, clearly never read, the paperback spine isn't even cracked.
The Decameron by Giovanni Boccaccio for $3 also in nearly perfect condition and clearly never read. A Penguin Classics paperback. Candide by Voltaire as a perfect conditon Barnes and Noble classics in hardback for $3. They were strangely selling a crappy and worn older paperback version of this same book for $5 right next to it. Some in this series they purposely printed to look like old bindings; the pages are uneven along the opening edge and it's of a thick paper-weight and I expect them to last decades.
Not sure yet what I'll read next after finishing where I'm at currently.
A couple of years ago I read Decameron, Canterbury Tales and one other similar book that my old brain can't remember right now. An enjoyable interlude.
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Post by Zach on Jan 5, 2023 22:13:38 GMT -5
Ron, you seem to be very well read. I've read a bit of Chaucer in ebook format (I have all those 100 books as free ebooks but can't even seem to enjoy reading them in that format) I just love having the physical book and I cannot seem to read an ebook.Have you read a majority of those top 100 books from that GoodReads list? (There are technically 104 books listed there.)
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 5, 2023 23:40:15 GMT -5
A lot of them, like Anna Karenina, just don't appeal to me. I've read thousands of books, but only about a third of those on the list. Note that things like The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire aren't on the list. I've read most of Dickens, Sir Walter Scott and such. When I was 12 I learned to read and understand Beowulf in the old English, but years later it doesn't make any sense to me. Use it or lose it. I've read several books by Albert Einstein and similar. All of Shakespeare, Don Quixote, Gullivers Travels and such. I got off into science fiction and read everything in the library when that was the only place to get books. I tend to read mostly fiction now because reality sucks. Favorite book is A Tale of Two Cities, second is The Count of Monte Christo. Those are 2 that I've read twice. I have also read the Bible through in a couple of versions. Some of what I read is generally considered crap. But I'm choosy about the crap I read. I like books with heroes. The Hornblower books and especially the 21 volume Master and Commander books are especially enjoyable. I also learn stuff from books. I learned carpentry and electrical engineering for my own needs from books. I can build, wire and roof a house, do 90% of the plumbing, rebuild engines and automatic transmissions, and so much more because of books. I have at least two hundred paper books that I will probably never get to. Mostly history. I have read most of the Bernard Cornwell novels, Harry Potter, Wheel of Time, The Game of Thrones, every fiction and a lot of the nonfiction books by Asimov, everything by Heinlein and a whole lot more. I rarely get to read anything on paper any more, except the local paper. I do have 4 paper books that I'm working on, albeit slowly. You may have heard the phrase, so many books, so little time.. When I was born, I was, at least theoretically possible for a person to know all the recorded human knowledge. Things have changed. There are a million times as many novels now than there were 72 years ago.
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Post by toshtego on Jan 6, 2023 11:17:14 GMT -5
If only politicians could read. It would be handy if voters could read as well... Amen to you and Ron.
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Post by Zach on Jan 6, 2023 16:39:55 GMT -5
Just came across this astounding master list and just thought I'd share it.
It contains 1,318 books.
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 6, 2023 17:02:27 GMT -5
Just read reviews of Cormac McCarthy’s latest interlocked duo in The London Review of Books: THE PASSENGER and STELLA MARIS. These are not books for Ron. He wouldn’t like them.
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Post by urbino on Jan 6, 2023 17:03:06 GMT -5
Just came across this astounding master list and just thought I'd share it.
It contains 1,318 books.
English majors and math: they never mix well.
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Post by Silver on Jan 6, 2023 17:04:31 GMT -5
Just came across this astounding master list and just thought I'd share it.
It contains 1,318 books.
English majors and math: they never mix well. Just replace "1001" with "Whole buncha".
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Post by Zach on Jan 6, 2023 17:10:19 GMT -5
1001 is of course, a play on Arabian Nights
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 6, 2023 20:58:56 GMT -5
Just came across this astounding master list and just thought I'd share it.
It contains 1,318 books.
List of books to read before you die. 1. Any book you like. 2. No books you don't like. The end.
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 6, 2023 21:02:59 GMT -5
When I was in grad school I HAD TO READ the list, beginning to end, plus peruse the index. I vowed that after that I would ONLY read what pleased me. Best selling book but at page 20 I don’t like it— it’s done, and so am I. I don’t care how much of a “most loved classic” it is. It’s fired.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 6, 2023 21:22:25 GMT -5
When I was in grad school I HAD TO READ the list, beginning to end, plus peruse the index. I vowed that after that I would ONLY read what pleased me. Best selling book but at page 20 I don’t like it— it’s done, and so am I. I don’t care how much of a “most loved classic” it is. It’s fired. Ditto. Catcher in the Rye, please!
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Post by Zach on Jan 6, 2023 21:25:11 GMT -5
Well of course. Like smoking, read what you like, like what you read. I appreciate the list because it helps me pick through and keep at top of mind books that I want to review and select just what I want to read. I'll try to spend enough time to overview what I'm getting into first and if one is really not enjoying a book it's best to ditch it and move on.
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Post by urbino on Jan 6, 2023 21:42:42 GMT -5
Looking at the list, I'd say there are several just in the top 30 or so that no one "must" read. I mean, The Hobbit? Really? It's a children's book, and not a particularly good one (which is fundamentally why the movies were so bad). I'd argue people should NOT read Wuthering Heights. Gone with the Wind? Les Mis? The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night Time?
It's like when the Modern Library came out with their top 100 list, back in the 90s, and The Education of Henry Adams was at the top. I mean, what even?
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Post by trailboss on Jan 6, 2023 22:03:32 GMT -5
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Post by Zach on Jan 6, 2023 22:18:14 GMT -5
Haha. Gonna be a hard pass for me on Les Miserables. The Jane Austen novels are very dry and boring, and Last of the Mohicans is super piss poor writing. We're all bound to pick and choose what we like and read. I thought that was funny what you said though. I though the Hobbit was alright but it's one of those things where you have to like it and get into it. Some of the really old comments and the way that people used to be able to upvote books onto the lists before they were locked are funny. "Twilight should not be on the list. If you voted for it, you're an idiot."
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