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Post by urbino on Jan 27, 2023 14:03:48 GMT -5
Looks like Bally Sports is about to declare bankruptcy. That's going to create major problems for a lot of MLB, NBA, and NHL teams, whose regional tv contracts are with Bally. They'll have to figure out a way to get their games televised for their fans, and how to replace the massive revenue Bally won't be paying them.
Fans of those sports may have to "cut the cord" long before they intended.
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Post by terrapinflyer on Jan 27, 2023 14:30:11 GMT -5
That's rough. My teams are on New England Sports Network. (I have to pay for MLB.TV for BB and ESPN+ for hockey, as I'm not in New England.) And NESN got shorted on their contracts when some baseball went to Apple (with terrible broadcasters) and Bruins games were sold to TNT. Bad for the fans, bad for the local networks. But someone is making coin, so whetevs, right?
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Post by urbino on Jan 27, 2023 14:46:21 GMT -5
Yeah. I can't really speak to the other sports, but baseball is getting very fragmented. Games are scattered across about a half-dozen streaming platforms. It's good for somebody's bottom line, I guess, but it sucks for the fans. MLB.tv should get you every game, period.
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Post by terrapinflyer on Jan 27, 2023 14:59:02 GMT -5
I agree! When especially baseball is trying to attract younger viewers, I'd think a priority would be making the games available in one place.
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Post by trailboss on Jan 27, 2023 15:24:53 GMT -5
The younger viewers know how to pirate every game they want.
My son is in his mid thirties, and he is able to pull up anything on demand he wants to, the quality may not always be the greatest though.
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Post by zambini on Feb 1, 2023 13:54:50 GMT -5
I disagree; sports viewership is going to seriously decline if every game is behind a paywall. You have to be taught to become a fan. As long as sports consolidate into a single channel, it becomes easier and easier to ignore it unless you are a die hard willing to pay for every game. Sports should seriously consider building a new generation of fans through over the air channels (e.g. a game of the week). Sports can't rely on junior sports to create new casual fans like they used to do given that participation rates are way down in the US.
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Post by sperrytops on Feb 1, 2023 14:12:09 GMT -5
Maybe these teams will have to cut back on billion dollar salaries. Too bad.
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Post by Mrs. Zarnicky on Feb 1, 2023 15:09:24 GMT -5
Zarnicky loving baseball. Some liking Boston Red Socks, some liking Chicago White Socks. Best is Zarnicky Nylon Socks. They getting more runs.
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 1, 2023 15:48:23 GMT -5
Never heard of Bally Sports.
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Post by sperrytops on Feb 1, 2023 16:04:02 GMT -5
Never heard of Bally Sports. Actually, I haven't either. Unless you're talking about betting lounges. |
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Post by urbino on Feb 1, 2023 16:09:21 GMT -5
Maybe these teams will have to cut back on billion dollar salaries. Too bad. You must mean the owners. They're the only ones making that kind of money. |
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Post by mwps70 on Feb 1, 2023 16:21:37 GMT -5
Onhockey.tv, the best hockey site out there. Any game anywhere! MLB.66 quit working so I can't watch my Chicago Cubs much. Hockey is my favorite anyway.
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Post by zambini on Feb 1, 2023 16:54:01 GMT -5
Maybe these teams will have to cut back on billion dollar salaries. Too bad. You must mean the owners. They're the only ones making that kind of money. It gets even better when they go crying cap in hand for a new stadium. Then they have the gall to tell you it should be a source of civic pride. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 1, 2023 17:01:58 GMT -5
Never heard of Bally Sports. Actually, I haven't either. Unless you're talking about betting lounges. I don't know betting lounges. Last one I was in was the old Sands in Las Vegas in 1970. |
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Post by trailboss on Feb 1, 2023 17:43:35 GMT -5
You must mean the owners. They're the only ones making that kind of money. It gets even better when they go crying cap in hand for a new stadium. Then they have the gall to tell you it should be a source of civic pride. And the local powers that be, scrape and bow to the demands. I stepped into exactly 1 stadium game in the last 20 years, only because my son was in the Marine corps color guard. Funny side story…. I had a meeting before that game where a suit was pretty much what one should wear in that setting. Right as I got to the stadium and went through security, I realized that “heck, I have my .45 cal 1911 on me!” Well no one goes to a football game in a suit, and the person manning the gate said “ You are obviously with the Bidwells!”, opened the gate and let me in unwanded as I gave a wink. (The Bidwell family owns the PHX Cardinal’s. The downside is, that I could not take my coat off for the entire game. 😕 |
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Post by zambini on Feb 1, 2023 18:41:20 GMT -5
It gets even better when they go crying cap in hand for a new stadium. Then they have the gall to tell you it should be a source of civic pride. And the local powers that be, scrape and bow to the demands. I stepped into exactly 1 stadium game in the last 20 years, only because my son was in the Marine corps color guard. Funny side story…. I had a meeting before that game where a suit was pretty much what one should wear in that setting. Right as I got to the stadium and went through security, I realized that “heck, I have my .45 cal 1911 on me!” Well no one goes to a football game in a suit, and the person manning the gate said “ You are obviously with the Bidwells!”, opened the gate and let me in unwanded as I gave a wink. (The Bidwell family owns the PHX Cardinal’s. The downside is, that I could not take my coat off for the entire game. 😕 Oh wow, must of been terrible in the Arizona heat. Here prices for live events aren't too high as long as you avoid visiting US teams or the ballet. |
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Post by urbino on Feb 1, 2023 18:41:59 GMT -5
You must mean the owners. They're the only ones making that kind of money. It gets even better when they go crying cap in hand for a new stadium. Then they have the gall to tell you it should be a source of civic pride. Yeah, I've never been a fan of that. Another example of privatize the profits and socialize the costs. |
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Post by trailboss on Feb 1, 2023 20:52:43 GMT -5
“ Oh wow, must of been terrible in the Arizona heat. Here prices for live events aren't too high as long as you avoid visiting US teams or the ballet.”
The stadium had just opened and was air conditioned so it wasn’t too bad, but would have been better coatless., I was more worried about my coat lifting up exposing my gun.
I avoid the major venues for parking prices, crowds, non smoking, ridiculous prices on food and drinks, hiking to he restroom, and a hassle leaving after it is over.
Other than all that, a live game is more desirable.
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 1, 2023 23:29:30 GMT -5
And the local powers that be, scrape and bow to the demands. I stepped into exactly 1 stadium game in the last 20 years, only because my son was in the Marine corps color guard. Funny side story…. I had a meeting before that game where a suit was pretty much what one should wear in that setting. Right as I got to the stadium and went through security, I realized that “heck, I have my .45 cal 1911 on me!” Well no one goes to a football game in a suit, and the person manning the gate said “ You are obviously with the Bidwells!”, opened the gate and let me in unwanded as I gave a wink. (The Bidwell family owns the PHX Cardinal’s. The downside is, that I could not take my coat off for the entire game. 😕 Oh wow, must of been terrible in the Arizona heat. Here prices for live events aren't too high as long as you avoid visiting US teams or the ballet. Back in 80 we got season tickets for the opera. Had them for 2 years and they doubled the price. Within 7 years they were 10x what we had been paying. |
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Post by trailboss on Feb 1, 2023 23:45:29 GMT -5
Oh wow, must of been terrible in the Arizona heat. Here prices for live events aren't too high as long as you avoid visiting US teams or the ballet. Back in 80 we got season tickets for the opera. Had them for 2 years and they doubled the price. Within 7 years they were 10x what we had been paying. Quite a trajectory… yeah, it is ridiculous. A colleague of mine spent 10 grand taking his family to Disneyworld…. I can think of a much more rewarding way of spending that kind of money. |
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Post by gav on Feb 2, 2023 11:42:58 GMT -5
It's just the streaming wars. Eventually someone will win
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Post by sperrytops on Feb 2, 2023 13:18:15 GMT -5
Oh wow, must of been terrible in the Arizona heat. Here prices for live events aren't too high as long as you avoid visiting US teams or the ballet. Back in 80 we got season tickets for the opera. Had them for 2 years and they doubled the price. Within 7 years they were 10x what we had been paying. I used to love the live theatre. Always bought seat somewhere in first few rows. These days it's a life savings for two up front seats. Insane. But my guess is they followed suit with sports stadiums and save the best seats and suites for corporate customers who will pay whatever the price is. Drives the cost of all the other seats up as well. Needless to say I don't go anymore. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 2, 2023 17:40:59 GMT -5
Back in 80 we got season tickets for the opera. Had them for 2 years and they doubled the price. Within 7 years they were 10x what we had been paying. I used to love the live theatre. Always bought seat somewhere in first few rows. These days it's a life savings for two up front seats. Insane. But my guess is they followed suit with sports stadiums and save the best seats and suites for corporate customers who will pay whatever the price is. Drives the cost of all the other seats up as well. Needless to say I don't go anymore. Our seats for the opera and the symphony were 14th row center. We used to get 6th row tickets for rock concerts if we could. That's achient history now. |
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Post by zambini on Feb 3, 2023 12:59:48 GMT -5
Back in 80 we got season tickets for the opera. Had them for 2 years and they doubled the price. Within 7 years they were 10x what we had been paying. I used to love the live theatre. Always bought seat somewhere in first few rows. These days it's a life savings for two up front seats. Insane. But my guess is they followed suit with sports stadiums and save the best seats and suites for corporate customers who will pay whatever the price is. Drives the cost of all the other seats up as well. Needless to say I don't go anymore. Mexico City has lots of live theater from variety shows to legitimate theater with many different price points. The problem with the national symphony and ballet companies is that whilst they subsidize tickets for most shows, scalpers buy them out beating the purpose of the subsidy. We live in front of a small experimental theater and, no offense to them, but most shows we've seen there are failed experiments at best. Last one we went to was a monologue by a woman recounting how she slowly went crazy during the pandemic and how her cat became bigger and bigger throughout it. They had a papermache puppet of the cat...it was awful. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 3, 2023 16:24:03 GMT -5
We used to live near a community theater that always had good shows. Agatha Christie and such. Every year they had a Mellerdramer that was a lot of fun. Free popcorn that you were expected to throw at the actors. Really miss that. We have plays in the next town 12 miles south of us. The annual Play, The Diamond Bessie Murder Trial, based on a real event.
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