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Post by Plainsman on Feb 12, 2023 12:33:10 GMT -5
Looking for help to zero in on an initial Virginia recommendation. I’m really sensitive to tongue-bite and have pretty much confined myself to the only tabac so far that treats me well: Sutliff Z92. But I’d like to try non-aro Virginia and am about to put in an order. Any help to find a mild but flavorful non-aro Virginia to get me started would be appreciated.
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Post by urbino on Feb 12, 2023 12:43:03 GMT -5
Hmm. Are we talking a pure VA here, or just anything VA-dominant?
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Post by Plainsman on Feb 12, 2023 12:58:18 GMT -5
Pure, to start. Needs to be mild.
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Post by turbocat on Feb 12, 2023 14:19:05 GMT -5
A possible place to start would be Sutliff 507C Virginia Slices. Great pure VA tobacco and although I’m not prone to tongue bite, I can still tell ones that may have a propensity for it and this isn’t one.
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Post by trailboss on Feb 12, 2023 15:31:22 GMT -5
I wish I could help, but I am bad at taking notes on what produced tongue bite and what has not on fresh purchases.
I can say with certainty that aged tobaccos will help in that regard.
PM me your address and I can dig out some stuff with some age.
I just may have some aged Virginias that you are considering buying and you can do a side by side comparison.
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Post by urbino on Feb 12, 2023 16:33:44 GMT -5
Pure, to start. Needs to be mild. Okay. I asked because I was thinking of recommending Luxury Bullseye Flake, which is a VA/Per with just enough cavendish in it to keep it from biting anybody. (As far as I've heard, anyway.) A touch of cavendish generally seems to do that. Pure Virginias are hard to predict for any specific person. Everybody's pH is different. I'll put Union Square from GLP at the top of my list. I'll also second 507c as good stuff, and inexpensive. You could also try Peter Heinrichs Golden Sliced. Those are all flakes, which I tend to favor. If you don't like flakes, Amphora Virginia and Capstan Gold Ready Rubbed are good ribbons(ish), at opposite ends of the price spectrum. I believe all of those are pretty available at the moment. |
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Post by mgtarheel on Feb 12, 2023 16:35:08 GMT -5
Green Dragon from The Country Squire
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Post by haebar on Feb 12, 2023 17:17:18 GMT -5
Cornell & Diehl's Yorktown is a pure Virginia, but will still bite if you puff it too fast.
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Post by Plainsman on Feb 13, 2023 17:23:21 GMT -5
Thanks, all. I appreciate the recommendations.
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Post by pepesdad1 on Feb 14, 2023 23:10:25 GMT -5
I wish I could help, but I am bad at taking notes on what produced tongue bite and what has not on fresh purchases. I can say with certainty that aged tobaccos will help in that regard.PM me your address and I can dig out some stuff with some age. I just may have some aged Virginias that you are considering buying and you can do a side by side comparison. Vas. bite me regardless of quality of leaf. Ph will do that to ya regardless of price. I've found a minimum of 5 years for that bite to lessen enough for an enjoyable smoke. |
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Post by Goldbrick on Feb 15, 2023 9:25:36 GMT -5
Virginias, even aged Virginias are gonna nip at you if go at them fast and hard. So many aro smokers look for that rush of flavor they're used to, and pain is there reward. The flavor of a good Virginia really unfolds when you just barely keep the pipe going. Listed above I saw Union Square, it's a really good va, and yes, the older the better.
Check out the entire Fog City offerings from G.L. Peace...you'll find some mouthwatering Virginia there. Good Luck!
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Post by Spartacus on Feb 15, 2023 11:36:23 GMT -5
Capstan is always a good choice for a straight Virginia. Most Virgina's can bit if you smoke too fast.
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Post by mwps70 on Feb 15, 2023 12:06:32 GMT -5
Personally, I have found that the roof of my mouth and tongue get irritated when I am smoking too fast or with too many re-lights trying to finish the end of the bowl. I have always equated it to heat, especially when trying to hard to finish every piece of tobacco to the end. Tongue leather is the condition you find yourself in after a weekend pipe show haha.
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Post by roadsdiverged on Feb 15, 2023 21:14:08 GMT -5
Yorktown is my go to straight VA. THE luxury flakes nip at me from time to time, even with a few years on them. I've never had that issue with Yorktown.
I smoke a lot of straight VA's from a lot of different producers, but that one gets smoked the most and is pretty forgiving. Bonus, you can buy it bulk
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Post by trailboss on Feb 15, 2023 21:37:17 GMT -5
Virginias, even aged Virginias are gonna nip at you if go at them fast and hard. So many aro smokers look for that rush of flavor they're used to, and pain is their reward. The flavor of a good Virginia really unfolds when you just barely keep the pipe going. Listed above I saw Union Square, it's a really good va, and yes, the older the better. Check out the entire Fog City offerings from G.L. Peace...you'll find some mouthwatering Virginia there. Good Luck! A good point, you really need to sip Virginias. And when I sip the aged fog city blends there is no tongue bite… even fresh, tongue bite is mitigated with sipping. |
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Post by urbino on Feb 17, 2023 1:03:42 GMT -5
Thanks, all. I appreciate the recommendations. Let us know what you settle on. |
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