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Post by trailboss on May 15, 2023 23:09:33 GMT -5
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Post by turbocat on May 16, 2023 0:01:03 GMT -5
Outstanding article.
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Post by Goldbrick on May 16, 2023 7:46:41 GMT -5
Words of wisdom..." pipe smoking is an art of exploration "...never been said better!
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Post by trailboss on May 16, 2023 20:25:28 GMT -5
I give people a hard time about smoking Captain Black Grape, but it is all in fun. I really like Stokkebye nougat, rarely have I ever heard anyone else mention it.
Tastes are subjective on so many things… especially on things that affect the tastebuds.
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Post by tree16 on May 16, 2023 20:40:40 GMT -5
Good reflection and it echos a lot of the advice I've seen on this board. Appreciation and respect go a long way in all aspects of life and give greater Pease of mind (pardon the pun).
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Post by Ronv69 on May 17, 2023 0:05:46 GMT -5
I give people a hard time about smoking Captain Black Grape, but it is all in fun. I really like Stokkebye nougat, rarely have I ever heard anyone else mention it. Tastes are subjective on so many things… especially on things that affect the tastebuds. You are at the top of the list if I ever open the big can. Just quit harping about it. I won't forget you, I promise.
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Post by trailboss on May 17, 2023 0:58:44 GMT -5
😂
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Post by SailorBen on May 17, 2023 1:36:13 GMT -5
Great commentary, thanks for sharing. Reminds me of a video conversation I saw recently in which JimInks astutely observed that every tobacco blend, pipe shape, song, food, etc. is somebody's favorite. Also that a review isn't helpful if it's more about your opinion of a blend than your perception of it. I've been really impressed by the pipe community in matters like this - a real blending of science and art, where the truth of physics and philosophy unite. Where the objective and subjective are not an either/or but a both/and. Becasue sometimes you want that "Sweet&Low sprinkled on burning styrofoam" taste so you smoke Half & Half
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Post by SailorBen on May 17, 2023 11:31:22 GMT -5
I give people a hard time about smoking Captain Black Grape, but it is all in fun. I really like Stokkebye nougat, rarely have I ever heard anyone else mention it. Tastes are subjective on so many things… especially on things that affect the tastebuds. You are at the top of the list if I ever open the big can. Just quit harping about it. I won't forget you, I promise. Who knows, with enough age perhaps Captain Black Grape will become Admiral Black Bordeaux and it'll be amazing.
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Post by peteguy on May 17, 2023 13:28:24 GMT -5
I am not able to comment on this post because every GL Pease blend I have ever tried is Garbage. Maybe he can spout off that I use the wrong word but my OPINION still stands. If he prefers, "I have yet to find a GL Pease blend that agrees with my palate", that is on him because this gutter trash likes to say something is garbage when he doesn't like it. Yes, I also use other short and easy to pronounce words to describe other things in my life that are not appropriate on the internet these days. Sorry, I was just giving a retort as if I was the person he was referring to in the article. BTW, I have 3 pouches left of CB Grape. I find it a wonderful smoke and will gladly buy more if you have it. Tobacco is about taste and individual opinion, not about what some other smoker or blender thinks we should taste or not taste in a blend. Take War Horse Plug. My grandpa smoked it and he would let me take a puff once in awhile (or so I have been told). I just wanted to smell it again. I didn't even care if it was nothing like the original. I just really wanted to experience that again. When I purchased 10 tins on release it was garbage (my opinion). I believe trailboss owns the 10 tins now, or at least did. He really enjoyed it and that is what makes this stuff so fun. Shrug, to each his own, I was just happy to dump it.
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Post by trailboss on May 17, 2023 19:41:27 GMT -5
I am not able to comment on this post because every GL Pease blend I have ever tried is Garbage. Maybe he can spout off that I use the wrong word but my OPINION still stands. If he prefers, "I have yet to find a GL Pease blend that agrees with my palate", that is on him because this gutter trash likes to say something is garbage when he doesn't like it. Yes, I also use other short and easy to pronounce words to describe other things in my life that are not appropriate on the internet these days. Sorry, I was just giving a retort as if I was the person he was referring to in the article. BTW, I have 3 pouches left of CB Grape. I find it a wonderful smoke and will gladly buy more if you have it. Tobacco is about taste and individual opinion, not about what some other smoker or blender thinks we should taste or not taste in a blend. Take War Horse Plug. My grandpa smoked it and he would let me take a puff once in awhile (or so I have been told). I just wanted to smell it again. I didn't even care if it was nothing like the original. I just really wanted to experience that again. When I purchased 10 tins on release it was garbage (my opinion). I believe trailboss owns the 10 tins now, or at least did. He really enjoyed it and that is what makes this stuff so fun. Shrug, to each his own, I was just happy to dump it. I have much more than that! Grandpa will raise up from the grave some day, and straighten you out.
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Post by taiguy66 on May 17, 2023 20:10:00 GMT -5
Great commentary, thanks for sharing. Reminds me of a video conversation I saw recently in which JimInks astutely observed that every tobacco blend, pipe shape, song, food, etc. is somebody's favorite. Also that a review isn't helpful if it's more about your opinion of a blend than your perception of it. I've been really impressed by the pipe community in matters like this - a real blending of science and art, where the truth of physics and philosophy unite. Where the objective and subjective are not an either/or but a both/and. Becasue sometimes you want that "Sweet&Low sprinkled on burning styrofoam" taste so you smoke Half & Half Couldn’t have said it any better bro.
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Post by chasingembers on May 22, 2023 5:18:21 GMT -5
Taste is subjective and if someone finds a blend to be garbage then to them it is indeed garbage. There have been a few blends that I haven't been able to finish the tin of myself. I don't need to eat more than one brussel sprout to know if they're something that I'm not going to like eating. Reviews are something that I don't take seriously as my palate is my own, but it sounds as if Greg took a complaint seriously when no blend is one size fits all. As for Captain Black Grape, if anyone has any that don't like it, send it my way.
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Post by Legend Lover on May 22, 2023 8:53:55 GMT -5
I agree. It reminds me of those Amazon reviews of 5 stars which say, 'I haven't received it yet, but I can't wait to try it out...'
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Post by Mrs. Zarnicky on May 22, 2023 10:28:59 GMT -5
"Cranky Pants" is name I calling my husband Chuckles. We were both happy for twenty years. Then we met. Zarnicky just kidding. Chuckles is very sweet boy.
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Post by trailboss on May 22, 2023 18:46:47 GMT -5
At least he is not stanky pants!
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Post by planofman on Jun 3, 2024 12:01:20 GMT -5
I give people a hard time about smoking Captain Black Grape, but it is all in fun. I really like Stokkebye nougat, rarely have I ever heard anyone else mention it. Tastes are subjective on so many things… especially on things that affect the tastebuds. 24 Nougat? The blend they bought by the pound to smoke in the Lord of the Rings movies? Arguably the most well known modern blend of our time... Yeah, no one ever talks about it. :rolleyes:
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Post by Ronv69 on Jun 3, 2024 13:15:37 GMT -5
In rebuttal to his argument, all I can say is Mixture 79.
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Post by trailboss on Jun 3, 2024 21:02:40 GMT -5
I give people a hard time about smoking Captain Black Grape, but it is all in fun. I really like Stokkebye nougat, rarely have I ever heard anyone else mention it. Tastes are subjective on so many things… especially on things that affect the tastebuds. 24 Nougat? The blend they bought by the pound to smoke in the Lord of the Rings movies? Arguably the most well known modern blend of our time... Yeah, no one ever talks about it. :rolleyes: Yeah, I know the history, and I talked to Brian Levine about it when he worked for Peter Stokkebye. Not sure where you are coming from, but it is rarely ever mentioned in tobacco talk on forums that are predominately non-aro smokers, and what are you smoking? threads. ...back at you.
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Post by urbino on Jun 3, 2024 23:29:20 GMT -5
I give people a hard time about smoking Captain Black Grape, but it is all in fun. I really like Stokkebye nougat, rarely have I ever heard anyone else mention it. Tastes are subjective on so many things… especially on things that affect the tastebuds. 24 Nougat? The blend they bought by the pound to smoke in the Lord of the Rings movies? Arguably the most well known modern blend of our time... Yeah, no one ever talks about it. :rolleyes: All news to me. Some of us aren’t from Middle-Earth. We just smoke a pipe.
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Post by CrustyCat on Jun 4, 2024 3:09:30 GMT -5
In rebuttal to his argument, all I can say is Mixture 79. Uh, I liked it..
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Post by daveinlax on Jun 4, 2024 9:33:02 GMT -5
Nougat is a best seller in shops under other names. Tinderbox sells it as North Sea. On a side note I noticed Greg and Nate King of all pipes were in France last week. I assume, but could be wrong that they were inducted into the Confrérie des maitres-pipiers.
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Post by daveinlax on Jun 4, 2024 9:35:49 GMT -5
In rebuttal to his argument, all I can say is Mixture 79. Uh, I liked it.. Mixture 79 was my first tobacco. I figured if Hef smoked it, it must be good.
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Post by briarpipenyc on Jun 10, 2024 8:02:11 GMT -5
Thanks for the link to something that actually held my short attention span for more than 30 seconds.
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Post by Zach on Jun 15, 2024 9:41:08 GMT -5
In rebuttal to his argument, all I can say is Mixture 79. Mixture 79 is great stuff. As to the article, I have had quite a few blends through the years that may not be up to my tastes or even expectations, but it is very hard for me to say anything out currently is trash. Most blends I won’t say much about until I’ve smoker several bowls in different pipes. Those I haven’t like upon release are typically better after letting them cellar for a couple years and coming back to them. A couple years ago when Small Batch Eight State Burley released, I smoked nearly half a tin in as many pipes and I thought it was not up to my standards expectations with how heavily sauced in sugars/honey the blend is and I had expected a C&D burley forward blend. I still thought so at one year of age, and Silver got most of my tins. Only at two-three years of age now revisiting it are the Orientals and burleys peeking forward and it’s tasting pretty good. Just an example. I think Pease makes a very valid point that we have better choice for pipe tobacco leaf today due to the shrinking of the industry and it leads to a more pointed focus on smaller batches. All my grandfather or wife’s great- grandfather smoked were blends like Prince Albert, Carter Hall, Sugar Barrel, etc. OTC tubs. My grandpa never smoked ripe, aged red Virginia in the 60’s or 70’s. Neither did hers. I know this is over a year old but I missed it the first go around. Enjoy what we have while we have it. Tons of variety in the market today.
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Post by Zach on Jun 15, 2024 9:49:57 GMT -5
I give people a hard time about smoking Captain Black Grape, but it is all in fun. I really like Stokkebye nougat, rarely have I ever heard anyone else mention it. Tastes are subjective on so many things… especially on things that affect the tastebuds. You are at the top of the list if I ever open the big can. Just quit harping about it. I won't forget you, I promise. I have half a mind to give up on trying Captain Black Grape and tear open a tin of Visions of Celephais and order some more Captain Bob’s Blend and really get buck wild with things grape.
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Post by Silver on Jun 15, 2024 10:18:45 GMT -5
In rebuttal to his argument, all I can say is Mixture 79. Mixture 79 is great stuff. "A couple years ago when Small Batch Eight State Burley released, I smoked nearly half a tin in as many pipes and I thought it was not up to my standards expectations with how heavily sauced in sugars/honey the blend is and I had expected a C&D burley forward blend. I still thought so at one year of age, and Silver got most of my tins. Only at two-three years of age now revisiting it are the Orientals and burleys peeking forward and it’s tasting pretty good." When I first tasted Eight State Burley, I fell in love with it. It didn't take long to find the topping overwhelming in a not good way. I'll be sitting on those cans a little longer before I try it again.
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