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Post by trailboss on Aug 8, 2023 20:26:46 GMT -5
Today, I stopped off at a Dairy Queen on my way home and another woman and I were on the same trajectory to get to the double glass doors. She held the door open, stepped off to the side and waved for me to go in.
“ No mam, you go in, but thank you”, as I reached around and took the door, she thanked me.
Cool!
After I ate my lunch, as I approached the double doors, a knucklehead guy in his 20’s got to the door on the outside, got to the door way ahead of me and saw me coming, he waited for me to open the door for him as I opened the door and walked through it. I asked him “Is that door broken? He mumbled something and grudgingly opened the door.
Don’t get me wrong… if man or beast is coming through a door with hands full, I will open the door for them.
I told my wife about it, asked her if I am becoming a jerk….
“ I was walking out the double doors like you said at the discount store, struggled to open the door carrying 4 bags, right as I opened the door a young girl and her grandma walked in. The young girl pushed past me, and grandma did so saying excuse us.”
Being kind to others opening a door is one thing, being a lazy bum expecting that others are your loyal subjects is another.
#OldschoolandIamnotchanging.
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Post by toshtego on Aug 8, 2023 21:23:57 GMT -5
Manners matter. Something too many younger people lack it seems.
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Post by Darin on Aug 9, 2023 7:45:50 GMT -5
Totally agree, Charlie! I recently had a scenario where two punk kids were coming in to the store as I was leaving. They were going to push past me through the left door rather than go in the right side. As they approached, I stuck my boot in front of the door rather than open it. Dirty looks were exchanged but they weren't stupid enough to open their mouths at least. Parenting is difficult but it's still an obligation to not raise completely rude brats.
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Post by oldcajun123 on Aug 9, 2023 9:02:55 GMT -5
 Long time ago at Exxon, went to Main office to turn in time sheets, got to the glass door, female engineer on othe side, I opened it for her, she looked at me and nastily said I can open my own door, I slammed the door in her face telling her You’re Goddamn right you can! Some people weren’t raised right!
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Post by Plainsman on Aug 9, 2023 9:28:07 GMT -5
I care about these things. Mentioned this before— Went to the local ranch store. I was slightly ahead of a whole ranch family heading for the same door. Suddenly a little guy— about belt-buckle high— shot ahead of me. Huge hat and knee high boots! He opened the door for me and stood aside. “Why thank you, son!” I said. “Yer welcome, sir!” He replied. I passed on thru, giving him the honor of holding the door for his whole family. That just about made my day. Manners are still alive and well in the South and the rural West. Thank goodness for that!
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Post by toshtego on Aug 9, 2023 9:39:54 GMT -5
I care about these things. Mentioned this before— Went to the local ranch store. I was slightly ahead of a whole ranch family heading for the same door. Suddenly a little guy— about belt-buckle high— shot ahead of me. Huge hat and knee high boots! He opened the door for me and stood aside. “Why thank you, son!” I said. “Yer welcome, sir!” He replied. I passed on thru, giving him the honor of holding the door for his whole family. That just about made my day. Manners are still alive and well in the South and the rural West. Thank goodness for that! It can make all the difference when going about in public. An encounter like the one described above can bring a smile and reassure that something is right in the world. The town of Taos folks are generally polite as can be, holding doors, yielding right of way at least on foot, greeting strangers while in line. Some of the local store owners have the rude view their customers are pests. That is one of the reasons I shop on in-line. The world is not what I recall from years past but that is always the way of things. |
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Post by coalsmoke on Aug 9, 2023 10:29:25 GMT -5
I feel that over my lifetime I've watched this society become more informal and, I'm afraid, common courtesy has been made a victim of the process. No part of the country is better than another because rudeness seems to follow development and the increased sense of hurry that comes with it. I live in a mostly still rural state but find that modern pressurized lifestyle even here in the agriburbs and, with it, a creeping "me first" attitude towards life and towards others. Even so, more clear-headed people show me the courtesy of opening a door for this old man and I respond by saying, "Thank you, my friend."
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Post by Plainsman on Aug 9, 2023 10:47:37 GMT -5
I have to disagree, Russ. There IS a difference in regions of the country. Prominent and observable. I state this from personal experience.
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Post by Darin on Aug 9, 2023 11:29:22 GMT -5
Nah ... it's everywhere. Less so if you live out in "Tractor Supply" country but, as Russ specified, anywhere there's development. I've traveled to just about every state in the lower 48 and found both polite and rude folks in every single one.
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Post by Plainsman on Aug 9, 2023 18:13:55 GMT -5
Well, 2 against 1 so I guess I’m outvoted. But in the last 20 years I have been in every region, feet on the ground, no “flying in”. Up close and personal. And I still say there IS a difference. Yeah, you can find rudesbies everywhere. But there are parts of our great country where you really have to LOOK for ‘em.
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Post by trailboss on Aug 10, 2023 10:30:51 GMT -5
I agree that there is quite a remarkable difference in manners based on geographical location…. And yes, you can find knuckleheads if you are looking for them.
But you will be much more warmly greeted in Woodward Oklahoma than you would be in San Francisco or LA.
Idyllwild Ca., and Quincy Ca. Are also more genteel than the urban jungles.
I held the door for a frail old guy in Silver City NM the other day, he said “I am from Chicago, you never see this there”.
I would not discount anyone else’s perception though, based on their personal encounters.
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Post by trailboss on Aug 10, 2023 10:56:12 GMT -5
Migration into an area can have a huge effect, as can "progress".... I lived in San Jose in the early 80's when orchards were not uncommon, they are all gone, and the place is filled with people from different cultures where values are different.
Couldn't help but think of Chrissy Hynds song about "progress"
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Post by toshtego on Aug 10, 2023 12:32:43 GMT -5
Migration into an area can have a huge effect, as can "progress".... I lived in San Jose in the early 80's when orchards were not uncommon, they are all gone, and the place is filled with people from different cultures where values are different. Couldn't help but think of Chrissy Hynds song about "progress"I remember when San Jose was the stone fruit capital of California. Orchards everywhere. As Charlies writes, all gone now. Some call that progress. I call it decline and fall. Too many people. |
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Post by Plainsman on Aug 10, 2023 12:48:41 GMT -5
Too many deer. Too many rabbits. Nature adjusts.
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Post by trailboss on Aug 10, 2023 12:50:38 GMT -5
When I moved there, where the 101 and the 17 met were orchards with the richest soil I had ever seen, especially coming from the Midwest.
A few years later, it was all concrete and asphalt, I thought it to be a sin to see the development for high tech… that all could have been built in Winnemucca!😉
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Post by username on Aug 10, 2023 13:24:01 GMT -5
My mom has pictures of us in the orange groves of Orange county. Now those orchids are all housing.
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Post by Plainsman on Aug 10, 2023 14:10:45 GMT -5
What a foolish species to cover rich, growing soil with dead, heat-absorbing pavement.
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Post by oldcajun123 on Aug 10, 2023 16:04:05 GMT -5
While we’re talking about manners, I see younger people sit at the table and eat with their hats on, my old German Grandfather would have knocked you off the chair.
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Post by coalsmoke on Aug 10, 2023 16:10:48 GMT -5
While we’re talking about manners, I see younger people sit at the table and eat with their hats on, my old German Grandfather would have knocked you off the chair. I've seen a few adults wearing baseball type hats at a table at a restaurant when out with my wife one time. I could tell they didn't know any better and probably never would. |
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Post by Plainsman on Aug 10, 2023 17:00:54 GMT -5
Well, sometimes a guy just doesn’t wanna put his $600 Stetson on the back of his chair.
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Long time ago at Exxon, went to Main office to turn in time sheets, got to the glass door, female engineer on othe side, I opened it for her, she looked at me and nastily said I can open my own door, I slammed the door in her face telling her You’re Goddamn right you can! Some people weren’t raised right!
